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onera
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This post is long because I wanted to give a good background info. I am asking for advice from more experienced brothers who have experienced many facets of Thai girls.
I met this Issan Cuttie (an FL, 22 years old, let's call her IC.) during my visit to BKK in Dec, 2004. I spent almost every night with her for three weeks. We went to Pattya, many discos, bowling, movies and other places. I also continued my day time adventures with
other cutties from massage parlors to FL in Beer Garden and Soi 3.
I compensated IC adequately, bought her phone cards almost every day, took her to Thai massage a couple of times, treated her and her sister (19 years) in good Thai and Japanese Restaurants, bought misc small items (like make up, facial cream, a shoe for her sister, a few Thai music cds, etc.) for her and her sister on a regular basis when I was in Bangkok.
We also talked for long time almost every night. This is her story, according to her: at the age of 17 she came to Bangkok to live with her Thai BF from Surin (the BF was in Bangkok "doing what?". She did not know because he lied and lied) and worked as a waitress in some restaurant to help her mother, abandoned by her father who was a Thai boxer with "many many" girl friends. After she came to Bangkok, her Thai BF started forcing her to have sex with his friends every day and she found out that he was getting money from his friends (may be clients). After one year, one day she cut her hands using a shaving blade because she did not understand why her Thai BF, who loved her so much, wanted her to have sex with his friends. I think it resembles the main character in "Private Dancer". Instead of taking care of her, her Thai BF beat her when she was bleeding and the neighbors took her to the hospital. She left her Thai BF and found a 60 years old Chinese-American doing business in Bangkok. She stayed with him in his condo for two years. She thought he loved him and she wanted to take care of him. But she soon found
the "same same". He forced her to spend almost every night with his Chinese/Japanese friends (may be clients) in different hotels. Then one day, the Chinese-American kicked her out of his condo because he found another 18 years old girl and she was
20, not young enough.
I would expect her to have a baby but she always denies. I think she has a baby who lives with her mother in Surin. I have been to her apartment a couple of times and I have met her mother in her apartment in Bangkok but I did not see any baby. I have a strong hunch that she has at least one baby, may be more, who knows.
Now she works as FL. She has a good Japanese clientèles who avail her services when they come to Bangkok. She also has a network of older (28-32 years) Thai girls who frequent bars popular with the Japanese. These older girls provide her with new
Japanese clients. According to her, the Japanese pay her 3,000 for LT.
After I came back from Bangkok in December, 2005, I kept in touch with her. I never sent her any money and she also did not ask me to send her money. We talked about going to Malaysia or Hong Kong during my next visit. I felt she was excited. She
told me she wanted to see all those places. I won't lie. I have some feelings for her. I want to see her, talk to her, spend time with her.
I went to Bangkok in May, 2005 and she came that night around 2 AM as soon as I called her from the Hotel. She said she was waiting for my call in her apartment. By her actions and gestures, I felt she was very happy to see me. I was also very happy and I kind of missed her for all these months when I was in America. That night we talked till the wee hours of the morning. I asked about her friends and she told me how her friends were getting money from their Japanese and Farang clients every month (30,000 - 40,000) and going to Grace hotel to get more clients so that they could go to discos to get Thai BFs. For example, her friend, Mon, who is getting 40,000 from a Japanese every month, went to a disco and found a Thai guy she liked. She had sex with him without condom and now she was pregnant. Mon called the Thai guy and he did not call her back. She consoled her
friend by telling "don't worry, he is busy" but she knew Mon's one night BF would not call her back. Now Mon is in deep shit because her Japanese sponsor will cut off her income. Stories like this. She also told me that she would never ask anybody to
send her money because she wanted to work hard and save her own money.
The following three nights we had a good time. We went to many discos, I treated her and her sister to some good foods, bowling, movies, and other small items. She called her mother to come to Bangkok and we waited for her mother in the Bus stop
from 3AM-6AM.
On the fourth night, she came in the evening and told me that her Japanese friend (she call her regular clients as friends) called her but she told him that she was busy because she wanted to see me. We went to Collisium, came back and spent the night talking.
I asked her about going to Malaysia and Singapore in December. She was very excited and she told me that she would get her passport before I visit Bangkok again. She hugged me and kissed and asked, "You not sell me?" I was really stunned. After I
recover from this shock, I told her that it was ok and she did not have to go outside Thailand.
I also felt that she had some feelings for me. For example, she took my cigarette and told me, "You smoke too much. I not give you cigarette."
I replied, "So what, I die and children's hospital gets 40 million Baht of my life insurance." I think she did not understand life insurance.
She said, "I want you live 100 years."
I joked, "100 years, I cannot have sex with you."
She said, "No, we can talk" and then she whispered in my ear, "You can lick me. I kiss you."
It went on for hours and at one point she asked me if I loved her. I told her I sure like her very much, I miss her when she is not around, I like to talk to her, spend time with her but I am not sure if I loved her. I realized she was a little upset but she did not express it. We had a great sex and slept till noon. She left me around 2PM and told me she would call me in the evening.
But she never called me. I called her several times and she hung up each time. Eventually around 3AM in the morning she sent me an SMS "I see you tomorrow".
The next day I called her in the evening, but the same thing. She hung up. I called her several times and eventually she forwarded the call to her sister, Mo. I talked to her sister and she told me that she had gone to Surin with her mother. I asked her sister to come to my hotel and talk to me. I told her that I would pay for her taxi. She came around mid-night and we talked till 3AM. Mo kept insisting that her sister would see me as soon as she came back from Surin. Mo talked about her family problems, that her mother was a gambler and she had borrowed heavily (60,000 Baht), and her sister had to sleep with more man to pay off her debts, IC does not like "fcuk, fcuk, fcuk ever day with different man" Mo told me that IC did not want me to know all her family financial problems. etc, etc.
But IC never called me. The night before I left Bangkok, she sent me an SMS "I am sorry, I want to see you again." After I came back to America two weeks ago, I tried to call her a few times. I think the phone line is not very reliable right now in Bangkok. Some times the calls are dropped. I could only speak a few words to her one time and the call was
dropped. I tried to call her again, and I felt that she hung up. One time, she forwarded my call to her sister and her sister told me not to think much about her. I could not understand anything else she said.
Now, my question is what is going on? I would like to see her again. As I said before, I have some feelings for her. I compensate her whenever she spends time with me. If she ever asks for money, probably I would give her money. In fact, this time I wanted to buy her gold (approx 20,000 Baht) and surprise on my last day in Bangkok. But I did not get a chance.
How can I see her again? I know one of her older network girl, Nit, that gets new clients for her. Nit told me she would call IC next time I come to Bangkok and ask her to visit a new client, that is me, in my hotel. Is it a good idea? Is she going to do this or she is simply telling me lies? How can I see her again? Is it a good idea to tell IC about my exact arrival date in Bangkok. Did she find somebody who is paying her way too much and she does not need my money? Please advice and post your humorous comments.
Please do not ask me for her phone number because she told me “You good man, not give my number your friends”.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:27 pm on June 19, 2005
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Oaktoad
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pretty simple really...
she got a better offer..
that offer was withdrawn
now she wants to see you again..
have you never read any of the other similar posts here??
damn, guys all think they and the girl they meet are unique...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 12:38 pm on June 19, 2005
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ColoradoGuy
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My opinion.
Her not being able to see you is because she is with another customer. When you called, she hung up and likely told her other customer "man from America, he call me, he want to talk, talk, talk, but I don't like him, he treat me bad". She is doing her job of keeping her customer happy when she is with him (whether that customer is you or someone else). Of course, the better the customer (for whatever reason), the more she wants to keep him happy, even if it at the expense of another customer (you).
Don't hate her, she is only doing her job.
And it sounds to me she really doesn't want to see you unless she has nothing better to do. Knowing this, how can it be fun to hang around with her?
If she is a good screw and you have fun with her, just call her next time you are in Bangkok. If she wants to see you and has free time, she will see you. Otherwise, you will get some excuse. Don't take it personally, she is just doing her job.
Don't spend a bunch of time trying to pursue her, it is wasted effort. Been there, done that. Just my opinion.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I was "in love" with a girl named NanaHottie. Well, "in love" is a quite temporary and transitional state for me.  Read my Field Reports on her, I was a real sap.  Anyway, sometimes I would come to Bangkok and occasionally she would be unavailable and I would be upset. (In hindsight, what a waste of my emotion!) When I was with her, I had so much fun. When she moved to Japan (good for her), I thought "well life suks, I'll never find anyone as beautiful and cute and fun and as good-of-a-f*** as NanaHottie". You know what? Then came Lin, then came Nina, then came Soi33CanDo, then came Dew, then came Mist, then came Rain. Most of these have come and gone now (two remain), but each one of them had a better quality in some way than NanaHottie.
Last trip, met a new girl I named Rain. Awesome girl, really fun, fabulous screw (almost as good as NanaHottie). A real keeper. Guess what? She is now no longer in Bangkok.  Not sure why, but I think someone snatched her up. Good for her. If I would have dumped a bunch of other girls for Rain, I'd be in the shits now, huh?
I never spend a whole trip with the same girl for three main reasons -
1. No matter how fun they are, my attention span is too short to spend more than 3 days with the same TG.
2. The more constant time I spend with them, the more "attached" we become (take "attached" to mean in the emotional, financial, or dependant sense). Even Dew or Mist (I "love" them both - and you couldn't find two more opposite girls), I have to get rid of after a few days. But I always go back to them after my "break".
3. If I don't see other girls, how am I going to have something lined up when my "regular" is unavailable or drops off the face of the earth? (I met Mist at a time Dew was unavailable, but when Dew came back, I didn't drop Mist - both of these girls are awesome in their own way, I do not have to choose just one of them.) But I still try to find some new girls every trip. Just keep f***ing new ones and even if 10% are "keepers", you will be up to your ears in fun girls soon. I've got two real keepers now, but one will drop off somehow, they always do and my M.O. will keep me going - hopefully.
I have seen Dew almost every month for almost one year - this is an eternity!
The moral of the story is to find a fun girl I can enjoy spending time with (in or out of the sack) and then I spend a couple of days with them, then move onto another one. The next trip, I arrange to see the best ones from the last trip. But when they piss you off or find someone else or go home or disappear or move to Japan, there is nothing more you should do, just Mai Bpen Rai it.
And I do not want her phone number. Girls like this, I try to delete from my phone book.
Good luck.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:52 pm on June 19, 2005
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dotcom
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This girl is trouble. Get a new one & don't look back. As CG says - play the field. Experience lots of girls. You will soon be able to tell the difference between "ticking time bombs" & sweeties who will become friends. My 2 cents.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:23 pm on June 19, 2005
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BigDUSA
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My wife is a psychiatric registered nurse and we have talked about women who are cutters. She would tell you run the other way as this women is nothing but TROUBLE. Look up borderline personality on google.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:36 pm on June 19, 2005
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Ronnie Raygun
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Count your blessings that you did not tell her you loved her.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:49 pm on June 19, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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I think CG gave the best advice "She is just doing her job", and to not take it personally. If she is with a customer, and he has decided to extend her contract, she can't easily break her performance and start chatting away... Either that, or she has a personality disorder. Either way, giving it some time is the best advice.
Personally, what I would suggest doing, is simply send her a text message (send her a sister a copy of it, if you want), as well as an email that pretty much says the same thing:
"Sorry it did not work out. I will miss you. Send me text message when you are free. I will no longer call you. Bye"
Then, delete her number from your phone.
If she is even remotely interested, she will text you (and you will have her number again), or she remains silent, in which case will have to move on.
Bottom line, you really should move on. Bangkok is filled with beautiful, nice, and precious girls that are all equally interested to be your special friend - don't shortchange yourself, and experience the diversity. If you still feel the same way after the next 5-6 girls, then let's revisit your issue
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:58 pm on June 19, 2005
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onera
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CG, I read your response a couple of times and I have a gut feeling that you are right. I need to move on. I looked at my little Thai black book. Though I spent most of my nights with IC, I also expanded my horizons during the day and and in the evening. In my two visits to Bangkok, I made friendships with a few ladies (28-36 years old) - a hair dressers, a boutique store owner, and two part time sex workers. I did not have sex with any of one them but I always treated them nicely, took them to good restaurant, invited them to join me in my hotel for alocohol and dance party, etc. I even went to a Thai joint with one of the girl and I asked her to invite her boy friend and I paid for all the expenses. It was mere $25 for me but a big 1000 baht for them. They made it possible for me to procure girls for me, especially the hair dressers because she knows a lots of girls who get their hair done by her. She jokes that I am turning her into a Mamassan. They all joke that I like young girls and I am not interested in any one of them. I joke back that I am tired and I no have "power".
I checked my list and it was 22 girls so far in my book with their phone numbers. So, I am exploring the diversity. But this girl has some kind of magical grip on me. I have never felt so strongly for somebody for a long time. May be she was able to turn on some of my teen age genes (I am 44 but I look like early 30's).
That being said, I know it is hard some times just to forget every thing. I wish there were a machine that you could use to selectively erase your memory but alas, it does not exist.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:30 pm on June 19, 2005
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Minder
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Onera - the old hands here are giving you good advice. CG and Daffy especially - send the text message and do as Daffy says - I did so in the past and months later got a reply - which I deleted as I had moved on.
"But this girl has some kind of magical grip on me." LOL - laughing with you not at you. You realise that is just another way of saying " but this girl is different.."? Two pieces of advice one from me "Move on" and one from a TG when I was in a similar state of mind "You think too much.".......Enjoy.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:09 pm on June 19, 2005
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LocalYokul
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see her when you can, and if you can't, don't worry about it
she's a whore, plain and simple, and like Dusa mentioned, she's mental from all that being passed around to friends of people she thought loved her
once you let her know you don't "love" her, it turned back into a plain ole customer/client relationship again
which is all that it should ever be with this gal
pretty sad that their Mother's debt is part of what forces them into prostitution, but there's millions mores stories just like this one
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:55 pm on June 19, 2005
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