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maew
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First order of business: I am a new member of the forum and have been to Thailand 4 times for work and holidays. ÝI have read just about all of the posts in the forum over the last year and I genuinely feel like I know you guys.
Here's my story- and the questions follow:
My first two trips were tame in terms of nightlife and I limited myself to TTM/Oil with the occassional happy ending.
From the first two trips, even though not a bar/gogo patron, I have been through many of the common experiences one can read about on the forum related to BGs - the emails for money, sponsorship, meeting the parents, getting ripped off and subsequently learned some lessons. ÝAs a complete newbie, I consider it all good experience and now know better from personal experience and having read similar stories from so many others on this forum.
My last two trips have been for almost a month each and I met a wonderful TG on the earlier trip that resulted in spending the whole latter trip with her - 24/7 in BKK and Koh Samui. ÝShe is my same age and became a BG very late in life after 10 years+ of non-bar "good girl" work. Ý
I have fallen for this girl in a big way, think everything is mutual, and it all seems to be good. ÝThe next step - in a few days from now - she will arrive in Switzerland to stay with me for a few months. ÝIf that goes without issue and the relationship grows, then eventually (2 yrs) I will want to return to the US and take her with me. Ý
My questions - for anyone who has insight:
Thai girls in Switerland, do they like it here? ÝToo cold? Anything (literally) I will need to be aware of or sensitive about related to Switzerland? Ý (Remember, I am foreigner in Swiss too)
Is Switzerland too different from Thailand (daily Swiss life is not at all like Thai or US) ?
Ok - for my first post, I hope I have not bored you all. ÝIf you must beat on the newbie, then so be it. ÝI enjoy a good dialogue and look forward to the communication and perhaps meeting some of you in Thailand next time.
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Posted on: 4:39 am on April 27, 2003
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Arcadius
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maew
I've come across quite a few BGs who have indeed 'done time' in Switzerland with a BF/husband, and not liked it at all once the initial novelty and excitement wore off. OK, by definition, these were ones which just couldn't hack it.
I think TGs (especially those with relatively little education and no realistic idea of what to expect in the West) can get dreadfully homesick. Northern Europe can be a particular problem, as they find the manners (as well as the weather) cold, and the whole way of life very unsociable and impersonal.
I'd recommend plenty of Thai food, plenty of trips home to LOS and quite a few local jaunts to 'warmer' social climes such as Italy or Spain. If she can find some... er, suitable Thai friends in CH, that should help immensely. I think most Thais simply can't function properly without a social support network, and with the best will in the world, you won't always know where she's coming from.
Anyway, If I were you, I'd keep a keen look out for signs of unhappiness. Identify and deal with the problems early before she's had time to brood about them. Ý
No idea about US marriage/visa arrangements, sorry.
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Posted on: 5:21 am on April 27, 2003
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I think Arcadius' point about the local social network is key.
I have lived in Norway and UK with an asian wife in its time and she always was very good at digging up her own kind, it gives them identity and help.
That can be difficult for a Thai lady if the language skills are not very good and depending of her level of initiative outside her comfort zone. Hence I suggest you prepare some contacts for her in advance.
I know via "Sweetsingles" ( BKK dating & Marriage agency) of some cases where Thai girls have married Swiss. I don't know any of them personally but I gather they may be willing to give you some contacts with Thai girls currently in Switzerland.
As Arcadius pointed out, the girls who went back to Thailand by default are those who couldn't hack it.
I have lived in switzerland for 8 years and would say that you need a contingency & Distraction plan for the winter- months. X-mas in THailand maybe or something like that.
If the girl is resourceful I would give it a go, you've got to belive in something in your life.
Its a good thing to bring her over now when she gets 6 months of good weather and nive things to do, places to visit. It allows you to prepare for winter-blues, remember she has no idea what is will be like for her.
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Posted on: 6:10 am on April 27, 2003
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maew
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Arcadius, Liftoff,
To both of you, a warm THANK YOU! ÝI am stressed out, preparing everything here for my TGF and your advice is timely and well taken. Ý
The Swiss culture shock was definitely a big one for me too....a very conservative and I would 'closed' society IMHO. ÝHence, my concern for my TGF. ÝIt is not as friendly here as it is in the US or Thailand. ÝFrankly, even meeting people, if you don't speak the local language well, is pretty hard. Ý
I expect to be dining in Thai restaurants quite a bit here for the next few months and I hope that this might lead to some good local Thai contacts - perhaps a support network for her while I work during the day. ÝLikewise, I am still looking for a local buddhist temple - also a good place to meet other Thais, I hope.
As for the weather issues - this one I am dealing with. I have invited her initially for the summer months and she will likely go back to Thailand before it gets too cool here. ÝThen I will make some visits to her there when the temperatures in Thailand are more farang-friendly (Oct-Mar).
If I could, I would just simply move to Thailand, but I am not ready to make that radical change yet. ÝIt may happen in the future, if that's what it takes. Ý
Again, Thanks for the advice. ÝMuch appreciated.
Maew
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Posted on: 8:45 am on April 27, 2003
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mlay
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By the way, where are u living in Switzerland ?
I'm swiss, and maybe my GF will move this summer in Switzerland.
So why not a meeting between TG and farangs ?
I live not so far from Lausanne. 40 mn/car
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Posted on: 12:58 pm on April 27, 2003
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bandit
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Maew,
Being a Swiss citizen, I would like to give you some comments on the forum, but I would like to have the contact with you by PM, if possible.
First I am not quite sure if you as a foreign citizen can make a visa for your TGF unless you are already married to each other. To be sure, I suggest that you are contacting the foreign police or the local community depending on were you are living. Second and please do not get me wrong, keep your TGF away from most other TGs. Select her and your friends carefully, I would think that at maybe 80 percent of all TGs in Switzerland have a connection to prostitution or doubtful activities. At last I think that it would be best to bring her here for a visit during our summer time, which is as you know from June to August. Maybe you could even take a leave from your work the first weeks she is here.
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Posted on: 12:33 am on April 28, 2003
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Ditto to Arc,
Rarely do ferangs understand the importance of the local social network to the asian girls, for them to survive on a daily basis.
Thai's like Indonesian girls, tend to spend a lot of their day time buy just generally socializing with their friends and or family. Take this option way from them and its a big hole in the 24 hours and you will need to fill it.
For them the substitute can be that they sleep until 2pm, then wake up, want your full time attention and look for what the nightime has to offer.
If your working in Switz, or anywhere for that matter, be ready to burn the candle at night to placate them and even then they will still get bored after a while and need to return home for some of the daytime social interaction.
Its f_cken hard to get up for work every day, after you go crawl into bed at 2am, then satisfy them physically for an hour or so, then have to role into work at 7.30am.
Try this for 2 or 3 weeks??????????
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Posted on: 2:34 am on May 2, 2003
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craigoz,
you asre making a very good point.
There is a considerable risk that the girl falls into the habit of sleeping in the day, never adjusts to the time difference and jet-lag so to speak, and therefore never gets up and about - out of the house - in the day-time.
Especially so if she is a bit shy and language is an issue, which it often is. Therefore she never iintegrates, therefore she never gets a job etc and in the end it falls appart.
This scennario requires some saerious discussion with the girl in advance and also a hard assessment by the male with regards to her receourcefulness and initiative taking before considr her a candidate to relocate her.
In otherwords, you may love her but she may not be a suitable candidate for expatriation.
Tough luck.
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Posted on: 2:56 am on May 2, 2003
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bandit
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Bros,
It would be a wise idea to send the girl to a language school. This will not only help her to adjust to the new enviroment, but also keep her busy. Of course in addition to that she should be responsible for the shopping and housekeeping.
BTW, bro Maew, I will respond to your PM later on tonight, no worries...! 
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Posted on: 3:07 am on May 2, 2003
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