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tin man
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After reading many posts in these forums there is something I want to say to everyone who has ever had a problem with a BG/club/etc on either an emotional or financial level.
We all start coming to LOS with our own ideas as to how a lady should be treated. For some TG's, this may work ok. What I have to say here applies only to BG's, mamasans etc.
My golden rules:
1. You are the boss so dont take any shit.
2. They want your money, you want her company (etc). If she f_cks around, wont perform or tries to skive off, cut her "salary" (just like her boss would).
3. You dont have to lie. If you have a wife, girlfriend, number 2 girlfriend or more, tell her if she asks. She will STILL f_ck YOU and you wont have any problems if she finds out later.
4. If you are harrassed at a bar by anyone, tell them to leave. They wont feel bad, they will simply go and harrass the next customer happy that their valuable bullshitting time was not wasted.
5. If you dont want to buy someone a drink, dont. (see rule 4 above).
6. If you take a girl LT, sure have fun together as this adds to the overall good time. But dont let her drag you to places you dont want to go. Lets face it, she would go with you to the local dog shit exhibition if you insisted.
7. If you are here on holiday, YOU are here to have fun, not everybody else. If you both have fun, great. But prioritise.
8. Be nice, be polite but be firm. Nobody respects a pushover.
9. If a girl in a bar comes over and you dont want her there, politely ask her to leave (see rule 4).
10. Discuss what you want BEFORE you bar fine. Do it in a nice/funny way BUT DO IT. Then if you dont get the performance you agreed...... see rule 2.
11. If you walk into a gogo etc LEAVE YOUR HEART OUTSIDE. Your heart is for ladies, your dick is for BG's.
12. If you on holiday, dont keep the same girl for too long. This stops a confusion re rule 11. Remember, if you like her, you can always go back and f_ck her later.
13. Be cool, be smart, be pleasant. Dont act like a dickhead.
14. If she hits you with the sick buffalo/broken motorbike/sick mother/sisters schooling etc etc be sympathetic. Tell her what a shame it is. Tell her that you understand her concern. Tell her that you understand that she needs the problem fixed and you dont want to stand in her way. Then give her what you agreed to pay her (for her services ONLY) and tell her to "go fix it".
15. You are the man. Be a gentleman, but be a man.
Stephen Leather said it best (and I paraphrase - apologies to the author):
Thais live in a very hierarchical society where everyone knows their position. To keep a BG happy, you have to treat her as you would treat a dog. What does a dog want from its master? It wants to be fed, exercised and entertained and it wants to know who's boss. Watch a group of dogs. Sometimes for no apparent reason, a dominent dog will grab a weaker dog a give it a shake and the weaker dog will go all submissive, lying on its back and wagging its tail. The weaker dog doesnt bear a grudge. It welcomes the domination making it feel safe and secure, all part of reinforcing the hierarchy.
I may attact some critisism here, which is welcomed. But beleive me, I speak from experience and life in LOS is alot better following these rules and believe it or not, the sex is better as we both know the boundries so we both can relax. I know I'm not going to cop shit, and she knows I'm not going to wear it so she usually doesnt try to give it. Consequently, all games seem to stop and then the fun can begin.
What do you think??
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:29 pm on July 8, 2003
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Tsonoqua
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I think that a lot of the forum brothers will criticize you for speaking your mind on this issue.
However, I agree with you, at least philosophically, if not point by point. ÝI think that it comes down to being assertive in your relationships with TG's, and I see that as a good thing.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:36 pm on July 8, 2003
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tin man
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I hope so - but it helped me after some bad experiences. May not work for everyone but that is what the forum is for.
Incidently, I now have many more BG friends that I see quite regularly -often not for sex, just fun. Seems to work for me.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:41 pm on July 8, 2003
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tin man
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PS - while I am serious, I am also sitting here giggling at the though of what some of the replies will probably be!!!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:45 pm on July 8, 2003
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sirusman
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Tin man i agree with you.........but put the flack jaket on.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:55 pm on July 8, 2003
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Oaktoad
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I think that if you think that the BGs should be treated like a dog, don't be surprised if you don't get treated as well as those of us who treat them as human beings.
Second thought, I don't go on vacation to live by a whole set of rules.. that is what I get when I work.. when on vacation, who needs a list of "do's and don'ts".
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:06 pm on July 8, 2003
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haam sup
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I am kind of forced to agree with Oaktoad - rules are for people who can't think. ÝQuoting Stephen Leather, a guy who is VASTLY overrated, IMHO, falls into the same category. Ý'Private Dancer' is a tome for those who want to feel justified in their prejudices, and play it safe. ÝIt IS one way to approach a vacation, or an extended stay in Thailand.
Some of us think that dealing with EACH individual, as a unique person, but with open eyes, is a FAR more enriching experience than pigeon-holing them as BGs/ladies/whores/GTGs, etc., and adopting a ready-made posture.
And, almost uniformly, the guys who everybody looks up to as 'old hands' fall into this category (non-prejudiced). ÝHow can you expect to know a lot about a place and its people if you blindly cling to some formulaic way of dealing with it/them?
Note that my disagreement is with the general approach outlined by tin man, and that each of his rules MAY be appropriate for some situation.
Summary: anything which opens your eyes, even at a material or emotional price is GOOD; anything which supports a formulaic/prejudicial clinging to a set of rules is BAD, unless ALL you want is to get laid.
There are MANY places more convenient than Thailand, for THAT.
haam sup
gosh, agreeing with Oaktoad didn't hurt a bit!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:46 pm on July 8, 2003
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invaderzim
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yeah those all seem to make sense.. but like they said above.. people on this website really like to split hairs over analyze and take offence, so what you see as a fact is bs to someone else..I think this is gonna be a long thread
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:04 pm on July 8, 2003
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haam sup
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Quote: from invaderzim on 4:04 am on July 9, 2003
yeah those all seem to make sense.. but like they said above.. people on this website really like to split hairs over analyze and take offence, so what you see as a fact is bs to someone else..I think this is gonna be a long thread
Thanks for that brilliant post, invaderzim. ÝGet back to us when you have something to say.
haam sup
don't let the screen door hit ya where the dog bit ya...
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:31 pm on July 8, 2003
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Skippy
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I thought point 5 was kinda helpful for me as a newbie. I have often wondered if we are 'obliged' to buy the lady a drink if they come over and start talking without an invite.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:49 pm on July 8, 2003
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