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BALI, Indonesia - At least two bombs exploded almost simultaneously Saturday in tourist areas of the Indonesian resort island of Bali, killing at least 22 people and wounding about 50 others, officials said. The blasts came a month after Indonesia's president warned of possible terrorist attacks. The wounded included at least two Americans. The blasts at two packed seafood restaurants in Jimbaran beach and a bustling outdoor shopping center in downtown Kuta were the work of terrorists, Indonesian President Suslio Bambang Yudhoyono said.





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Posted on: 11:47 am on Oct. 1, 2005
manowar
No, not again! This may finish Bali off for good as a favoraite tourist attraction. Damn those fu$%*cking terrorists. They are killing their own economy, not just innocent people. Stupid idiots ! ( now that's a oxymoron, but they do deserve it. stupid+idiots !!)


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Posted on: 1:24 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
bkkfella
Yeah, I dont get this.

These Islamic terrorists are hurting their own people/economy by scaring away tourist dollars.
One would think an internal group would find out who these locals are and take care of them quietly by themselves. Or maybe they/everyone are too frightened of them as they are a kind of mafia no one messes with.

Anyone know what it is that they want ? Indo is already a Muslim country. Are they trying to oust the President or install a theocracy there ?

???XXXX?????


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Posted on: 3:18 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
DaffyDuck
Yes, you are right, you don't get it.

These idiots do not care about their own people, or their own economies - they only care about being able to boast about their actions, and how much it brings attention to them. All their posturing about 'freeing their own people' (if they even say so mcuh anymore, is just that, posturing.

As to why the Indonesian gov't doesn't take any action? You mean the same gov't that kicked out US and UN aid after the Tsunami, and then screamed for more aid when another earthquauke happened within weeks later? You mean, the same muslim culture that believes in taking no action against fellow muslim, no matter what they do? What were most of the victims? Indonesians, or tourists.

Lastly, you are all correct - this will deal the death blow (no pun intended) to Bali tourism -- thus, they will achieve their main goal. No more messy unbeliever tourists all over their place.

Idiots, indeed - but what can be done. After all, according to some factions, these poor muslim victims just need a hug and greater understanding to stop their acts of terrorism...


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Posted on: 3:52 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
Broken Leg

Quote: from bkkfella on 3:47 am on Oct. 2, 2005
Yeah, I dont get this.

These Islamic terrorists are hurting their own people/economy by scaring away tourist dollars.
One would think an internal group would find out who these locals are and take care of them quietly by themselves. Or maybe they/everyone are too frightened of them as they are a kind of mafia no one messes with.

Anyone know what it is that they want ? Indo is already a Muslim country. Are they trying to oust the President or install a theocracy there ?

???XXXX?????



They don't care who or what they hurt or kill least of all their footsoldiers.

The attack in Bali is basically inteneded as an attack on the west and more specifically Australia, as the tourists in Kuta are predominantly Australian (the Australian embassy in jakarta was bombed just over a year ago). The terorist group involved is almost certainly JI - Jemiah Islamia. A group with very strong links to Al Qaeda.

Also although there is obviously no idea yet of who did this, the attacks in 2002 were certainly not carried out by locals. Bali is predominantly a Hindu Island the attacks were carried out by Muslims from Java.



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Posted on: 3:57 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
Oz
This does a lot more than affect Bali Tourism; it affects the whole regions trade in Tourism. Very sad day for Victims, their families and the people in the affected areas!


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Posted on: 8:08 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
Jojje
Perhaps this should not be even whispered - but I am dead scared that something someday will also happen in LOS - and then presumably in BKK. Just imagine the terrible impact it would have...... as some of you regular visitors here may recall, police have found scaring lists on computers of listed targets. It sends chills along your spine - but I state it here and now: if it ever - god forbid - happened in Thailand - I would not ever even consider staying out!

Finally: it is very interesting to hear islamists and their proteges from the west always stating that their religion is nonviolent and "loving" and "peaceful". Aha - so please enlighten me: which OTHER movement/religious fanatic groups is a global threat today? All over the free world we have to take costly precautions to protect ourselves. Airline safety is costing billions - just to save us from Islam "peaceloving individuals". If you take past 20 years of terrorists actions and the number of victims slain - I for one have a very hard time understanding the "peace and love message" from these bearded illeteral idiots. We fought nazis in the 40īs and it was thought to be for the freedom of the world. Now we face a growing religious fascist threat all over the globe - and it has to be put down - for the safety of all of us. And those who do not agree to this: are you then a volunteer to be on the next plane being blown up? Or working in a building being taken down? Want to sit peacefully in a bar or restaurant when psycho idiots decide to blow it up? No?! If you are not prepared to be there - do you want to see a good friend perish in flames?

So who do you want to sit there and take the blow instead of you? It bothers me so much when you actually hear idiots arguing that is OK to do these attacks because the murderous criminal fascists are "freedom fighters"?! Sickening!

They hate us and want to kill us all - we being the "infidel" and all that mumbo-jumbo applied by people still living in the stoneage. OK - I am not usually wishing to kill my fellow human being - but these bastards fall out of all normal behaviour and human life. We need to start taking these chums out with a real big strike and show them that this is the end. World war 2 ended with histories biggest invasion and ultimate sacrifices by numerous heros on the beaches from the allied forces - mainly the US. Japan said they were never going to give up - until the big egg was dropped on them twice and showed them were to line up. As late as in the 1990īs the balkan war was almost putting europe on fire again. Nato and the US troops came in and strangled that attempt and bad people were taught to step down.

This is what we need to do with the islam threat. Beat them back to beyond stoneage and teach them they have no business threatening the free world! If they want to be part of the world community and live peacefully with the rest of us: welcome! But if not: then it is time to get the work done. Not as it being performed now with too slow and uneffectful action.

f*** these coward murderous bastards! PLEASE give me a chance of having just ONE of these bombers in front of my rifle! I would pull the trigger - and get a hardon at the same time!


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Posted on: 8:39 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
dirty guru
On Australian Tv this morning. (as one victim was a 16 year old Australian boy)
They crossed to a father of another young man killed in the previous Bali Bombing in 2002, for his thoughts.
He was very sad for this re-occurring event, but cautioned it wont be the last until Australians stop sending soldiers to places where "'innocent muslim woman and children are killed"'
This stunned the reporter as he had lost ason to terrorists bombings 3 years ago.
But he went on to point out that They see us as part of a terrorist group (US-UK Australian soldiers) and saddly Given civilian Numbers killed in places like Afganistan, Iraq, By soldiers trying to protect themselves, that there is some truth in it.
To suggest otherwise he said is naieve and audacious. Its not Black and white, there is grey Matter.
And the Bombings will continue.
My Thoughts are That, Australians should Forget Bali now. After giving them 1 billion in aid after Tsunami, I am disappointed this is what goes on.
The Ameriacans Gave alot also.
They want to lock up, for 20 years young woman caught with drugs that say ""the drugs werent hers.""
Maybe doubt should factor into such sentences/
But theres no doubt now Bali is finished as a tourist spot.
Infact its somewhere (if you dont mind risk) p4p will become pretty cheap.
As western money aint gonna pay the stall keepers anymore.
The Sad facts are 100,000 workers will soon have no job.
Australians simply will point to somewhere else on the global map to go holiday. So will The Yanks, and the poms, and anyone else that likes a dance without their arse catching fire::


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Posted on: 9:17 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
bkkfella

Quote: from Jojje on 9:07 am on Oct. 2, 2005
We need to start taking these chums out with a real big strike and show them that this is the end.

This is what we need to do with the islam threat. Beat them back to beyond stoneage and teach them they have no business threatening the free world!

PLEASE give me a chance of having just ONE of these bombers in front of my rifle! I would pull the trigger - and get a hardon at the same time!



As Dennis Miller, the American comedian said in one of his routines......
"sooner or later someone is going to say enough is enough and order everything East of the Jordan River and South of the Mediterranian razed. Then we will be done with it, period." (approx quote).

Problem with this is that no honorable person can kill so many innocent people. it is the few bad eggs that make it difficult for all.

I think they need to pay informants to find who and where the leaders are so we can quietly assasinate them. Then only a few die and with it the violent Islamic 'movement'.

Then again, they still have not found Osama.

Tough egg to crack.


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Posted on: 10:07 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
Blattsucker
"These Islamic terrorists are hurting their own people/economy by scaring away tourist dollars."
BKKfella, to them it is a good thing. Those filthy tourist pigs swarm their country. They infect their youth with strange ideas. They let their women run around almost naked. On the beach there are even some tits out in the open. THIS MUST STOP!
So some countrymen can not make money from filthy pigs. So what? If they are good muslims Allah will provide for them. And if they starve then they were not good muslims. And since they live with/from pigs how can they be good muslims? Let them starve.

Jojje since you asked : "so please enlighten me: which OTHER movement/religious fanatic groups is a global threat today?"
Let me enlighten you. How about christians???????
For instance you have a George Bush who willy nilly carpet-bombs a country into the stone-age. He claims that God speaks to him and aproves of his actions. I'm happy to live in a country that puts people in a rubberroom when they hear voices. Is "oval" american slang for rubber?????
Then you have a guy that not only speaks with God, he thinks he is His replacement. And to him the bible clearly states that condoms are a mortal sin. The majority of his followers believe him and that a hosty will protect against AIDS. I'm happy to live in a country that has euthanasia for these hopeless senile cases.
That was the major league. On the minor side you got some freaks that throw pipebombs at abortionklinics. Funny how my english teacher forgot to mention that "PRO LIFE" is english for the dutch words "throw bombs" (translated for your sake).

But since Bush killed only half a million sand-niggers and the pope millions of real niggers (but at a real slow pace) the media is not playing it up like 2 honkies from down-under.
And didn't R.E.M. sing "Selling the drama"??? Well one white guy being blown to bits has much more drama, then a million niggers rotting away slowly in places with no electricity.

Did I mention the jews??? How they displaced millions of palestinians and killed thousands of them. And the ones living under Israely authority have a good insight in jewish life under german authority some years earlier. Jewish settlers, realy fun people, they shoot their own president. Palestinians love them as their neighbors.

If you want more just ask Mr. Alan. He can google you some funny groups/sects/fanatics must faster then I can. It may not be global, but it may come to a theater near you, since I don't know where YOU (forummembers) are. There are those chinese jokers that set them self on fire. Japanese comedians that try to shower whole cities with Sarin. And ofcourse the laugh-a-minute jungle-bunnies with their childrens crusade in Africa. And the list goes on.

P.s. Did I forget Budhists? Or are they the best of the lot??? Maybe that is why we like Thailand so much???

P.s.s. Now this was my "happy" answer. Anybody interested in my cynical answer????




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Posted on: 10:21 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
     

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