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Arcadius
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I'm sure you're right. No doubt he'd be crucified in the UK or US too. In continental Europe (where the AoC is usually 14 or lower), I'm not so sure.
No shortage of people who'll want to grandstand on the 'save our kiddies' platform, and the P4P aspect means he'll get little enough open support. But it doesn't necessarily follow that the law CAN get him.
The media certainly will though. Bandying words like 'underage' and 'minors' around will allow them to sensationalise all they like, because few readers will stop to think what these words really mean.
If it wanted to, the Thai government could set the age of P4P consent (and the age of majority) at 30. If so, it could throw the book at us for going with a 28yo BG. Even so, having sex with this underage minor wouldn't make us paedophiles.
On the face of it, this is an offence against social order legislation and not some unspeakable crime against nature. Then again, for all I know this guy's a genuine kiddy-fiddler. We really haven't been given enough info to judge.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:35 am on April 25, 2004
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The Machine
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Arcadius
You can see by the responses of some on this board that the meida will sensationalise these stories as it makes good copy and your average Joe can pound his chest and say how disgusting, hang the b*** by the balls etc.
It is a pity that many people do not stop and think for a moment before they begin their ranting and raving and look at the actual facts before they start their tirade.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:42 am on April 25, 2004
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Well, to make this more interesting, the guy is a well known member of another forum: http://www.thaivisa.com and there is a discussion there with much more info and details from people who know him.
It seems things are not as we may think, or maybe his friends are trying to portray him in better light. I do not know. Come to your own conclusion by reading about it here:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9290&st=0
If the story about the kids being deported to Burma although they are from there is true, it is a very sorrow case. Of course, if the rest of what is said (by those who know him) in the other forum is also true, then it is a sorrow case also for the David named fellow.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:47 am on April 25, 2004
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The Machine
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I just read the thread and it doesn't sound good for David.
It seems he has a very bad reputation in CM via lots of bad business practices and there does seem some evidence to suggest he may have been involved in paedophile activities.
I suppose we will have to wait and see what happens and what version of the truth finally gets to the general public.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:31 am on April 25, 2004
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Quote: from Vancouver Jay on 3:32 pm on April 25, 2004
How many of you white knights have a f*ck movie in the den, a dildo in the bedroom and a kid elsewhere in the house right now? Wanna do time for that?
So, do you commonly hang out with two 16-year old boys while having pornographic material about?
While I certainly don't want to stereotype LOS here, but unless your part of a cultural boy scout exchange trip, I really don't think anyone would be doing much hanging out with 16-year old boys -- particularly if they are Burmese imports (which, in all fairness, might not be known up-front).
I agree, jumping to conclusions ain't a good idea, but what facts there are here seem to be pretty damning in a circumstantial manner.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:36 pm on April 25, 2004
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The media in Australia will have a circus with this.
Under Australian law the offender and the victim cannot be named in these sorts of cases - to protect the identity of the victim.
However, David Leonard Arthur, a 48-year-old Australian businessman will I expect simply be deported. And will arrive back in Australia to headlines giving his name and address (don't worry the media will simply put the suburb and city - no doubt South Australia will be the state - always is) and then interview people in the street.
The beauty of it is that he could never be held to such public vilification if he was charged in Australia - the law of innocent till proven guilty would never allow it. This way the facts need not get in the way of a good story.
Good guy, bad guy or the falsely accused - don't matter, he's screwed.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:20 pm on April 25, 2004
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I regularly post on the Thaivisa forum and have had email conversations with the Accused over the last 18 months. In his spare time he worked very hard for an Aids charity, one of the 16 years old boys was his adopted son, who has been suffering from Aids for 5 years. I would be very suprised if he were a paedophile, stranger things have happened, but he seemed decent enough, if a little arrogant as a forum moderator.
One sure outcome will be the death of his son, if deported to Burma without the care required for his survival.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:52 pm on April 25, 2004
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Quote: from Arcadius on 10:35 am on Mar. 27, 2004
Machine
I'm sure you're right. No doubt he'd be crucified in the UK or US too. In continental Europe (where the AoC is usually 14 or lower), I'm not so sure.
Arcadius, In much of Europe the AoC is higher than 14, and rarely lower. Use and abuse of power aginast kids is viewed with tyhe same distaste as elsewhere in the world.
The main issue here is that it is in appropriate for a 40 year old (just using that age as an eg.) to have sex with a 16 year old. There is a power differential. The reason for lower age of consent is not so that adults may have sex with younger people.
Finally whilst soemone may have pased puberty, a 16 year old is still a child.
My two baht
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Posted on: 3:07 pm on April 25, 2004
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The laws in Australia will get him. The Thai government have very good laws in co operation with Canada, United States, Australia, Umited Kingdom and many European countries on sex with monors. Most likely he will get prosecuted as if he comitted the act in his own country.
Having enough evidence to convict him will be the other question, since most likely the victims will be reluctant to testify or even provide evidence.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:45 pm on April 25, 2004
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Quote: from hzink on 12:36 am on April 26, 2004
Quote: from Vancouver Jay on 3:32 pm on April 25, 2004
How many of you white knights have a f*ck movie in the den, a dildo in the bedroom and a kid elsewhere in the house right now? Wanna do time for that?
So, do you commonly hang out with two 16-year old boys while having pornographic material about?
Under your avatar, it says "Troll Eliminator" -- sorry to hear about your impending suicide. No, wait, I'm not sorry at all. F*ckwit...
Does having a guest in your home and a knife in the kitchen equate to attempted murder over there in Stupidville, too?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:44 am on April 26, 2004
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