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Ronnie Raygun
Interesting stats. On a murder per capita basis (not just firearms) Thailand is 14th. The US is 24th, UK 46; stats for several other countries (China, most of SEA) seem to be missing.

The period covered is 1998-2000, so Thailand's numbers don't include the war on drug dealers from last year. But then I don't know if those deaths (alleged dealers killed by police) actually count as crimes in this survey.


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Posted on: 1:52 pm on Sep. 11, 2004
DrLove
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Posted on: 10:31 pm on Sep. 11, 2004
compexec1
DrLove-

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Posted on: 10:59 pm on Sep. 11, 2004
Minder
Ciao Ciao

When I made my post I had only the basic details of the incident but knew there would be more to the story. And yeah, even on what I had then I'd agree he asked for it. Sad, stupid and a waste that it was.

I stand by the "clash of cultures" comment. The Pommie attitude of a giving someone a bit of a "biff" versus the ingrained since birth Thai reverence to the head. It was a minor point and hardly worth making in these circumstances.

Yeah, the Police Sgt is a killer but is anyone surprised?I'm not - I don't agree with what he did but I understand enough about Thais; "face" and alcohol fueled anger to see why it happened. Sympathy to all the families including the Thai one that has lost its breadwinner. A pointless waste and ruin of lives.


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Posted on: 10:48 pm on Sep. 12, 2004
afm171
Ciao Ciao,

That's an interesting link, thanks for posting it.

Though I don't think the per capita murder stats support the idea of Thailand being unsafe. Because murder is typically a crime of retribution, that is to say you've generally got to piss someone off first before they'll want to kill you.

Unless it's during the commision of another crime like robbery, rape, or kidnapping... and thailand doesn't figure on those per capita lists:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rob_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_kid_cap

I believe Thailand is a very safe country as long as one doesn't piss off the locals...


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Posted on: 2:45 pm on Sep. 13, 2004
DSBones
Whilst I appreciate that
a) no one knows the full story
b) the young british guy possibly behaved inappropriately
One thing that can be said is that the Thai person definitely reacted inappropriately.
I fail to see how punching someone equates to being shot and killed. He may well be a 'dumb-f_cker' (we will not know until all the facts come out - if ever) but 'dumb-f_ckers' have as much right to live as other people.
I agree with many of the points made by CC - the couple could have averted the situation if they sensed that it was escalating - but I think that this murder was senseless.
The concept of "face" is a very destructive one and is not beneficial to individuals or countries as a whole. The idea that your self worth is dependent on the views of others is ridiculous and the sooner people (all people) realise this the sooner the world will be a better place to live.



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Posted on: 7:28 pm on Sep. 13, 2004
BigDUSA
Cop should not be hard to find he drives a red BMW. I didn't realize being a cop paid so well.

Why did he kill the girl? Leave no witness?


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Posted on: 7:35 pm on Sep. 13, 2004
samthedog
The story from a Kanchanaburi store-keeper is that the police man had spent some time with them, befriended them, and had

"even slept with the girl"

Now I take that with a pinch of salt, knowing the Thai love of juice gossip and rumour. (may even be the defence from the policeman himself) but I think it may have been over her anyway. Whether the policeman slept with her or not, there was a fight.

Never lose it with a Thai Policeman, guys!


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Posted on: 8:55 pm on Sep. 13, 2004
     

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