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dirty guru
Maybe I should go back on the medication again?
:: That was the funniest most enjoyable post I have read for a while.
To reiterate alittle on christians being a threat.
He is right.
The appointment of the high court American chief Justice will do little to keep church and state seperate.
what he said about "'AIDs in Africa especially and The pope, I would add kids in Phillipines searching carbage dumps, whose good catholic no condom parents provided them with christian doctrines, also need mention."'
The "Bush "' thing simply is beyond funny now.
Its serious shit.
The draconian laws being introduced on detension without charge in many western countries stem from American policy.
The undeniable state of the middle east is alot to do with "'christian " fundamentalist crusades once again.
The actual reason for war flawed (no weapons of mass destruction) The place is going to hell.
And I feel increasingly sorry for the ex burger king workers from some middle town American State that are as we read and write, trying to stay alive over there.
The "'Janet Jackson Tit over reaction"'
The laws on abortion.
The "'for or against us "" Line from the leader of USA.
The teaching of Adam and Eve in schools and Evolution being under seige.
The we are rightous They "'are not "' Mentality.
Christians scare me.
My 16 year old daughter is in the pacific Islands now on her first missionary work (in school holidays) But she gets mad and upset at my cautionary views of State and church forming Policy.
Muslims are many, most are peace loving people.
Thats worth remembering.
:::

Just unfortunately when bombs explode so does tolerance...........I fear Isreal may do American bidding and like a pit bull let of its chain ""attack Iran"" with limited nuclear weapons.
That would free up the US militarys already stretched Numbers on the ground.
Remove the nuclear weapons debate going on in Iran.
Make Isreal safe from a nation that has stated its Intent to destory it.
And we can walk in and Take the oil.
Hell soon they most likely will just nuke the whole middle east...put on the nuke suits and pump up the Black gold Texas Tea........
Think it Cant happen?

Wait?

God said it was Ok......Remember?


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Posted on: 10:40 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
LiamOZ
All the crazies make me sad for this world. Again. more innocents dead. Life is cheap to these mental cases in their schemes for power.
Vicious religious and political fanatics rule their own by fear, and the moderate majority remains silent until the attrocities are too much.
Moderate people of all persuasions need to learn to speak their piece. Then maybe these shits would not rise to power.
Sad Liam.


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Posted on: 10:47 pm on Oct. 1, 2005
humbug
Lol, missionary work lol.

Christian missionaries remind me of the fat kids in that movie, 'shallow Hal'.


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Posted on: 12:33 am on Oct. 2, 2005
S05
BigDusa, sorry to say the first reported death was not an American but a Sixteen year old AUSTRALIAN boy.

Man, why do you think the first person killed in such a bullshit act is American ? your Press ?

Hey this is in an Area that Australians call their second holiday port of call.

At the end of it, what f***ers they are, planting their bombs under the sand that later, the tables were laid out for dinner, word has it 2 outa 5 devices went off.

f***ing cowards, as of this moment 30 killed and 3 Australians also.

Yeah I`d love to Help them to meet Alah with a fecking bullet to the back of the head, help them to find bliss !

S05.


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Posted on: 1:05 am on Oct. 2, 2005
DaffyDuck
We can assume that gov't agencies know what groups are involved, including who they are -- what needs to happen is that everytime something like that happens, you round up the FAMILIES of these participants, execute them, and bury them in a mass grave with pig carcasses. Send a video tape, or do it nice and publicly.

The pig carcasses part is essential.

Then, let's see how cheap their own families' lives is to them.

Won't happen, though - not because of public opinion, but rather because a Muslim gov't won't be doing anything 'nasty' like that to fellow believers in Allah -- after all, they MUST be good, if they believe in Allah (or some crap like that)

Direct, and immediate retribution via their families is the only language they would understand.


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Posted on: 12:55 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
bkkfella

Quote: from Blattsucker on 10:49 am on Oct. 2, 2005[brJojje since you asked : "so please enlighten me: which OTHER movement/religious fanatic groups is a global threat today?"
Let me enlighten you. How about christians???????
For instance you have a George Bush who willy nilly carpet-bombs a country into the stone-age. He claims that God speaks to him and aproves of his actions.

Did I mention the jews??? How they displaced millions of palestinians and killed thousands of them.

P.s.s. Now this was my "happy" answer. Anybody interested in my cynical answer????



Yeah, right !
Now George Bush is the same as the terrorists.
Get real man !
First..... I am sure GB never ever said he speaks to God. So why do you embarrass yourself by saying such a silly thing ?
2nd... GB does not sneak around in the night and kill innocents in a cowardly way.
You forgot about 9/11, London and Madrid I guess.
GB declared war on the terrorists. That is his job.... to protect and defend America. That is hardly the same as the fanatical brainwashed youngsters blowing themselves up in the middle of women and children.

Ah yes, the Jews have "displaced" Palastinians. And Palastinians have executed some 40 terrorist bombings of inncoent Jewish women and children in the past year. Jews killed, P's displaced. So who is the bad guy there ?

No I don't want to hear your cynical response..... the rational one made no sense.



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Posted on: 4:05 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
Brown Eye

Quote: from bkkfella on 4:33 am on Oct. 3, 2005
.... I am sure GB never ever said he speaks to God. So why do you embarrass yourself by saying such a silly thing ?

Our president and his aides think so at least. Interestingly George W. Bush's first executive order as president created the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives in the White House. Talk about priorities.

Taken from http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-01-bush-cover_x.htm

"Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day."

This one is taken from http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1076026,00.html

Bush said to friend James Robinson (a Southern Baptist television evangelist) : 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

After Bush speech to congress on 9/20/01 Tim Goeglein (deputy director of the White House public liaison) said, “I think President Bush is God’s man at this hour.”

Bush talks about Angels:

The Inaugural Address, January 20, 2001

"I can pledge our nation to a goal: When we see that wounded traveler on the road to Jericho, we will not pass to the other side....

After the Declaration of Independence was signed, Virginia statesman John Page wrote to Thomas Jefferson: 'We know the race is not to the swift nor the battle to the strong. Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?'...

This work continues. This story goes on. And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."

And so much about the separation of church and government. This is Bush as Governor of Texas.

"OFFICIAL MEMORANDUM
STATE OF TEXAS
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR

Throughout the world, people of all religions recognize Jesus Christ as an example of love, compassion, sacrifice and service. Reaching out to the poor, the suffering and the marginalized, he provided moral leadership that continues to inspire countless men, women, and children today.

To honor his life and teachings, Christians of all races and denominations have joined together to designate June 10 as Jesus Day. As part of this celebration of unity, they are taking part in the 10th annual March for Jesus in cities throughout the Lone Star State. The march, which began in Austin in 1991, is now held in nearly 180 countries. Jesus Day challenges people to follow Christ's example by performing good works in their communities and neighborhoods. By nursing the sick, feeding the poor or volunteering in homeless shelters, everyone can play a role in making the world a better place.

I urge all Texans to answer the call to serve those in need. By volunteering their time, energy or resources to helping others, adults and youngsters follow Christ's message of love and service in thought and deed.

Therefore I, George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, do hereby proclaim June 10, 2000,

Jesus Day

in Texas and urge the appropriate recognition whereof.

In official recognition whereof, I hereby affix my signature this 17th day of March, 2000

George W. Bush [signature]
Governor of Texas"

I am still waiting for Bush to declare BUDDHA day!!!!!

This below is taken from http://www.publiceye.org/apocalyptic/bush-2003/austin-providence.html

A Time magazine article that reported that “Privately, Bush even talked of being chosen by the grace of God.” According to Bush, this calling occurred during a 1999 sermon by Mark Craig, the preacher at Bush’s church in Dallas. Craig spoke of Moses’ reluctance to heed the calling of the Lord. In that sermon, Bush heard God calling him to become the President of the United States.

B.E.


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Posted on: 5:34 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
Jojje

Quote: from Blattsucker on 10:49 am on Oct. 2, 2005
"...............Jojje since you asked : "so please enlighten me: which OTHER movement/religious fanatic groups is a global threat today?"
Let me enlighten you. How about christians???????





Well I guess it doesnt help to advice you to have a check on your medication...... there are quite a few people like you out there - and it always amazes and almost numbs me how a presumably grown up person with hopefully basic education can foster brainghost "opinions" like yours. And debate you does not help. People like you can be shown a black square and you will be convinced it is red. Any logical debate will be shortfallen. So wasting time on making you open your eyes is of course useless.

Today historians study how millions of people could be led to chear ol´ Adolf whith their right hand in the air - not questioning his message. The most likely answer is that people like them (and you) lack an intellectual capacity of thinking further and past billboard propaganda. Such people also have a slight psychotic symptom in that they totally lack the ability of empathy.

With your look on life I take it that you easily and gladly volunteer to sit in the next plane being bomded out of the sky by these heroes of yours? No? Why not? You said it is ok they do it?! Or you wont mind being in the bar where a suicidebomber has decided to snuff your light? And if you - when it comes to your own coward skin - decide you do not want to be there, is it ok if your best friend or perhaps some of your kids is the target and victims of these murderers?!

Not much hope for the likes of you - until medicine have found out the techinques of brain transplants.....

Sometimes I wonder what it would feel like to be so empty in the head as you are. Fortunately I will never find out! Even if 9/10 of my contents were to be removed!


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Posted on: 6:20 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
manowar
I say we blockade the countries that harbor these terrorists. eg. since it's the Indonesian muslims that carried out the Bali bombing, we blockade Indonesia until they turn over these bastards ! Until then, no ships or airplanes go in or out of Indonesia. No trades with other countries, no tourism for them, no nothing coming out or going in. Let's see how fast the Indonesian government can find these idiots. We want the mullahs, the inmans, the families, the employers, the employees, everyone connected with these idiots have to be turned over to the victims' home government and stand trial. We also make the harboring government pay for all the damages, the loss of lives compensations ( this is when the Personal Injury lawyers can be of real good use).......etc. Blockade the harboring countries and see how long they can stand without trade with the rest of the world.


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Posted on: 7:06 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
Blattsucker
BKKfella, what you meant to say was : "No I don't want to hear your cynical response..... the rational one made no sense..... to me since I'm an uninformed dumbass.
By the way, you missed the joke. This was my cynical answer.

"First..... I am sure GB never ever said he speaks to God. So why do you embarrass yourself by saying such a silly thing ?"
I'm not embarrassed, but you made an ass of yourself by showing the world you can not read.
1) I never said there was a two-way conversation between George and God.
2) Brown eye gave you some examples of what I DID say. I bet he could fill this whole forum with examples if he wanted to.
3) Every time George opens his mouth, it ends with "God bless America!" What he realy means is : "God bless America, and f*** the rest of the world!"
Otherwise he would say : "God bless the world (or mankind) !" Since I'm in the "rest of the world" I have some objections to George's God.
I have to give you the fact that this goes for every president. But I liked those others better, so I forgive them these small mistakes.
4) Apart from his own statements that he hears voices (read Brown Eye's post again) it is not such a big leap to think that a man that up till this day still thinks Saddam is behind 9/11 also is mad enough to hear voices.

"2nd... GB does not sneak around in the night and kill innocents in a cowardly way."
Yes you are right, it takes a real brave man to bomb cities filled with men, women and children from 30.000 feet. This is real High Noon cowboy stuff. You have my apologies, I was wrong.

"Now George Bush is the same as the terrorists. Get real man !"
Yep, you got me again. Spank me big daddy!
Maybe I need to explain the word TERRORRIST to you. It means somebody who spreads fear and terror amongst a group of people, with the goal of getting from them what he wants.
And what did George say not so long ago??? "A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bin Laden!" Seems SCARETACTICS 101 to me.
Or howabout : "We have to protect the USA from WOMD! Look at this picture of a milktruck near a bunker. That is clearly a thread to our security!"
No George is not spreading fear amongst his own population, that is all in my head. I'm glad you set the record straight.

"GB declared war on the terrorists. That is his job.... to protect and defend America. That is hardly the same as the fanatical brainwashed youngsters blowing themselves up in the middle of women and children."
Yep you are right. That is his job. The only problem is he is doing such a pisspoor job. The number of peace dead in Iraq is now 10 times the war dead. All totaly useless if he did not blunder so much AFTER the war.
Or howbout Plan A to get Bin Laden : Send 6 Rambo's with 600 corrupt as hell and incompetent Afghans up Tora Bora. A 20 square mile area. If that fails we have Plan B. Only they forgot to make a Plan B. How strange Bin Laden is now presumed to live a good life in a very safe Mekka. Getting him there would inflame the masses so much that the CIA just lets him be.
And about the brainwashed youth. No GWB is not brainwashed. he is DOING the brainwashing. Lindy England is one of his brainwashed youths if you want to know.
Oh, I forgot the judge said she was responsible for all the bad things in the prisons. Yeah right. She was the mastermind that built all those prisons OUTSIDE american law. Now why would you want to build prisons outside the law???? Is it so you can torture people or is to give them T-bonesteak and Playstation 2 everyday?? You tell me! George built the system and Lindy was stupid enough to fall for it.

"Jews killed, Paletinian's displaced. So who is the bad guy there?"
Yep, you are a real fountain of knowledge. From which turnipcart did you just fall? Displaced! Do you have any idea what you are talking about? No, let me explain. In 1948 the UN gave the (homeless) jews a piece of land that you now know as Israel. There was only a very small problem. That piece of land was home to 5 - 10 million palestinians. They got kicked out. So we are talking about a New Orleans disaster multiplied by 5. To you that mabe is fun and games, for them it was a bit less funny. So you have millions of people with out possessions (land) and sent to places where nobody wanted them. They were confined in small pieces of land without ANYTHING. No possessions, no jobs, no income, no sanitation. But they got plague, cholera, dysentry. Thousends died of hunger and disease, the ones that protested were lucky, they got shot by jews and arabs alike. And since 1948 little has changed. The healthcare got a bit better. And the ways they got shot also. Now it is tanks and F-15's that shoot them. And they throw stones.
"So who is the bad guy there?"
You tell me!"

And before you think I'm all for suicidebombs; NO I'M NOT! Things are not black and white. But there is a lot of black on all sides.
Did you read this also Jojje??? Since you don't question your leader that has never made a mistake in his life and you follow him blindly, I think you have a very good idea what it is to have no brain. Did some goosestepping in your spare time??
But you are right; people that don't question anything have no business in discussions. So what brought you here?

Oh and Daffy, the Israeli's do just that, in a bit nicer form. Families of suicide bombers get about 5 minutes to leave their home then a bulldozer levels it. It does not help much. The bombers don't care since they are dead. The family gets martyr status from the rest and they are proud to have thrown a stone at the big jewish Goliath. The irony of it all.


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Posted on: 8:00 pm on Oct. 2, 2005
     

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