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Hermanolobo
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Quote: from Basil Bush on 1:52 am on Feb. 11, 2004
PROHIBITION???
America tried it 80 years ago.
We all know who will win…
Yes... the Mobsters… Again…
Very sad day…
This is really the main point. All it does is push P4P and other activities underground. Where are the replacement jobs for the Thais working in ALL sectore of this activity? I am including the ladies selling noodles who get hungry at 2-4 am ! The Thai authorities hope that after a time they will have their new Singapore and everything will be rosy. But comparison with the Singapore economy and lifestyle is ridiculous. The Chairman 'Khun-T' has his lapdogs in parliament so I was not the least surprised that the vote went through.
I have copied a writer on the 'Newsgroups' below and I believe this goes a long way to explain the current mind set:-
"Seems to be. You have to remember that Thaksin started his
political career with the Phalang Tham (or Palang Dharma) Party,
which was started by the very charismatic Maj. Gen. Chamlong
Srimuang as a "moral force" against money politics. The party was
an odd mixture of politicians and morally concerned people, many
of whom were members of the Santi Asoke sect which is rather more
ascetic than mainstream Buddhism. Commentators used to refer to
"the church wing" of the party.
Under Thaksin's leadership, Phalang Tham did not prosper, so he
left the party and started his own Thai Rak Thai political party.
A nucleus of founding members of TRT came from PT, and obviously
some of them were from "the church wing". Mr. Purachai Piumsombun
was part of that group.
I am not so sure about whether Mr. Pracha Maleenond, the Deputy
Interior Minister who is currently carrying on the fight for the
"New Social Order" is from that wing or not. I think he is.
In any case, it's pretty clear that a group of bluenose
prohibitionists have gained power."
There are other places in the World to party but I happen to like Thais and the country. It would appear this alleged government doesn't !
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:19 am on Feb. 11, 2004
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ThaidUp
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The good news is the MP's are opening two hours early, therefore I can get a F&S and still make the RT's on time
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:19 am on Feb. 11, 2004
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Kaymanx
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They have got a few things wrong about massage parlours. I would have thought that -- given the nightlife -- a massage is best enjoyed in the early part of the day. Which, in other words, is actually after a late night out. I have enjoyed some of the best massages in the late mornings, say around 11 or 12, or late afternoons, say around 3-4 pm which really relaxes the mind, body and spirit. With all those aromatic oils and soft music and curtained rooms, the mid-day massage is a prized jewel of BKK's day-life! Now gone for good ?
Massage in the evenings ? When most ppl are out in the bars, pubs, discos, restaurants, or on the streets ?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 8:06 am on Feb. 11, 2004
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power24
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NIGHTLIFE IN PERIL: Death Knell
Published on Feb 12, 2004
Bar owners yesterday predicted doom and gloom for the nightentertainment industry as a result of the strict new midnightclosing laws.
So harsh are the new closing times, set to come into effect on March 1, that all expect a crippling drop in revenues, while many said they would have to cut staff.
Operators outside designated entertainment zones were bracing for the worst; inside the designated zones, bars can stay open until 2am and pubs until 1am, but outside the zones, midnight closing is the new rule.
Massageparlour tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit yesterday called on people affected by the new rule to gather for a demonstration at the Royal Plaza on Saturday evening. He said the operators should have been given at least a year to prepare for the changes, not just a few weeks.
The outspoken businessman also predicted more corruption as a result of the new rules. “Initially, strict enforcement is unavoidable but as time passes you can expect payoffs. I know this well; I have had the experience myself,” he said.
Somyos Suthangkoon, president of the Association of Entertainment Business Operators, said yesterday that with shorter hours, nightspots outside the designated zones were heading for extinction.
“We are preparing to go out of business. Owners like me can easily find new jobs but I have to take pity on the waiters, parking valets and taxi drivers who don’t have many choices. They may be forced to go into crime or prostitution,” he said.
Somyos said that only 10 per cent of Bangkok’s approximately 8,000 nightspots are located in the designated zones. Of all the entertainment venues in the city, only 3,000 have proper operating permits, he said.
One Bangkok bar owner, who requested anonymity, yesterday accused the government of doublecrossing operators in imposing the midnightclosing time.
He said business operators in the designated zones had expected longer opening hours while those elsewhere believed the current 2am closing time would have remained.
Janya Saipornchai, owner of the Krungthon Complex, which is not located in any of the city’s three designated zones, said she expected a negative effect from the new closing time.
“But it’s still too early to predict whether we will have to go out of business,” she said. “I’m still in the dark what to do next.”
Janya said the business operators were given only a short period to prepare for the new regulation. She ruled out the possibility of moving her business into a designated zone, saying that in view of the industry’s current situation it was difficult to secure bank loans.
She called for the designated entertainment zones to be expanded to cover the Thon Buri area, where many nightspots are located.
In Bangkok, the zones designated for entertainment venues cover the Patpong area, and New Phetchaburi and Ratchadaphisek roads. Inside the entertainment zones, nightclubs and bars can stay open until 2am, while pubs and discotheques must close at 1am.
Taifah Chayavoraprapa, a nightspot magnate on Khao San Road, which is not covered by the zoning plan, said the early closing time would be a setback for the tourism industry and damage the nation’s status as a magnet for international backpacker tourists.
“Even now when we have to close at 2am, the tourists ask me, ‘What for?’ I simply don’t know the answer,” he said, adding that the nightspot owners had no choice but to comply with the new constraints.
He said a decline in tourists might force him to open his restaurants and entertainment venues only on Fridays and Saturdays when there were usually more customers. He may also consider relocating his businesses to a neighbouring country that aspires to attract backpackers.
Pattanapong Ekvanich, president of the Association of Phuket Tourist Businesses, yesterday called for longer opening hours for entertainment venues in the designated zones, as the island province is a tourist attraction.
An owner of a bar near Phuket’s Patong beach said that most nightspots in the area cater to foreign tourists and that there have been very few problems involving young troublemakers. He was referring to the pretext put forward by the government that the midnight closing time would protect youths from vice.
Anek Nurak, president of the Surat Thani Tourism Association, expressed concern yesterday that the midnight closing time for most entertainment venues would lead to job losses for many workers in the industry and less revenue for the southern province, which relies heavily on tourist spending.
He foresaw a drop of 10 to 15 per cent in tourism revenue due to the midnight closing time.
A business operator on Koh Samui yesterday said the early closing time would drive away foreign tourists and weaken the island’s tourism industry, its major source of income. He said fullmoon parties alone contribute at least Bt100 million each month to the island’s economy.
He said islands such as Samui and Phangan should be exempted from the new closing time as their entertainment venues cater mostly to foreign tourists.
In Chiang Mai, Somkiat Saimai, who heads an association of restaurateurs and entertainmentbusiness operators in the northern province, said that local operators had started adapting themselves to cope with the changes. Some have offered discounts and others have cut costs to survive.
In a related development, senior Metropolitan Police officers met at the bureau headquarters yesterday to discuss plans to enforce the new closing times.
Metropolitan Police deputy commissioner Maj General Jetna Mongkolhathi, who chaired the meeting, told reporters afterwards that he foresaw no problem in enforcing the new closing times. Police would first focus on entertainment places outside of the designated zones, which must close by midnight, then enforce the new rules on venues inside the zones.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:11 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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Basil Bush
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Boy's in brown get an unofficial pay rise!
More ticket-less fines 
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:42 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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ThaidUp
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This may have some good effects:
1. Backpackers going elsewhere. 
2. The TG/BG dynamics have been changing over the years for them to go ST. This is becuase they can go ST then return back to the bar to get another customer for LT. The new reduced hours will result in less foot traffic hence buyers market. It should be easier to get LT's now.
"Me lub you long time" may come back into fashion.
I think the new rules will have positive effects for the expats living in Thailand, but if I was a tourist wanting the most bang for my buck for my vacation, I would go elsewhere.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:43 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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UKYorkie
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ThaidUp
And were would you go?
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:10 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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power24
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Personally I like some parts of the phillippines and Cambodia has the friendliest people Ive ever met. However Im still holding out that this is just a momentary lapse of reason in the LOS/T?
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:43 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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Deleted Member
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Guys,
lets sort this out, the inherent quality of Thai women comes from the fact that their society is buddist.
I dont know for every corner of Cambodia, Laos and V'nam.
Someone (or Hermano) educate us. That helps s in the decicion where to go next
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:03 pm on Feb. 11, 2004
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