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Smegma
Whatever. Yes, they made American part of the name. But that was wrong at the time and still is: a name that made no sense -well it does makes sense for a very centric mind. Common use yes, but still it is wrong. And that is a fact.

Anal? I do not know. Perhaps. But I do not like the fact that the USA decided to take the name America for itself alone when it was already shared by many. I guess this is one of those historical wrongs that would take beyond our time to get corrected -many others have.

Anyway, way too much off topic and if anything we should discuss this in Z -not here. My apologies for my part on this digression.


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Posted on: 2:06 am on July 20, 2003
haam sup
Pack,

Definitely farang-centric, since I'm farang, and not able to think Thai 100%. ÝBut I DO try to understand from a Thai point of view. ÝI kind of think that it's typically Thai to scapegoat a group, and apply a 'feel-good' solution to the problem, and to appeal to the nationalistic side of things.

I doubt that ANY of these measures will address the farang criminal element:"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns". ÝAnybody making criminal sums of money will just pay the price, and not even feel it.

What I AM concerned about is the black eye Thailand is getting in the press, and in general, due to its reputation as a 'free-zone' for drugs, terrorists, and the sex trade. ÝIn a world where most Americans don't know the difference between Taiwan and Thailand (there IS one, right? ), the baby is likely to get tossed out with the bathwater...

And, Mr. Alan, I have to disagree: I'd have to do a bit of research, but I doubt the fee increase would have much impact on the GDP of the country. ÝIt is, certainly, a poke at farangs, and an attempt to place some impediments in the path of those considered less desirable...

haam sup


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Posted on: 2:14 am on July 20, 2003
haam sup
Smeg-o-rama!

I ALREADY steered this thread BACK on track once...

Actually, America is the name of everything in the Western Hemisphere, and I, personally, own it all.

You may have the Eastern Hemisphere, subject to tribute, payable to...ME!

haam sup


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Posted on: 2:20 am on July 20, 2003
Mr Alan
"I do not like the fact that the USA decided to take the name America for itself alone when it was already shared by many."

The USA was created and named in 1776. It did not take on the name of America; rather it took on the name ìUnited States of America.î I am not sure what other countries in the Western Hemisphere existed as independent nations back then, but not many (if any). The idea of a colony becoming independent from a colonial power was a rather new concept in 1776, like liberty and freedom. And that's a fact Jack.

If you want to call them United States of Americans, please feel free to do so.


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Posted on: 2:33 am on July 20, 2003
Mr Alan
Now I suppose people will object to "United Kingdom" since after all there are many other Kingdoms. Did you object to "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" (before it dissolved) since there are (or were) many other Socialist Republics?


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Posted on: 2:40 am on July 20, 2003
Smegma
Haam Sup, good for you! On the topic itself, I have little to add as you and PR have hit it on the nail. Yes, in terms of money not much of a dent on fiscal income of over US$ 20 billions -but I guess it may provide for the local inmigration guys to buy themselves better equipment for their hunts of illegal inmigrants.



Quote: from Smegma on 2:06 pm on July 20, 2003
.... anyway too much off topic and if anything we should discuss this in Z -not here.
It feels nice and different quoting myself. Kind of like saying: besides ignorant also can't read.

P.S.: Some people never learn from their mistakes and just keep showing their ignorance. There is no country named "United Kingdom". Though it rings a bell. I have heard of one named "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland." The other one? Wrong again, here the key word is "Soviet" and it is a defining word to which nobody else could lay claim or allege confussion, as it was first used during the St. Petersburg disorders of 1905. MRAlan, better give it up. The more you try, the more .... Ý




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Posted on: 3:01 am on July 20, 2003
Kaymanx
Haam Sup,

After reaading this post of the fee hikes yesterday, I too got this sinking feeling that it was probably the tip of the iceberg, as you put it. All aimed at the "evil tourist." I envisioned a situation where new taxes or other charges are levied on airport cabs so that their fares to the city are tripled. A new tax on all bars and pubs so that the cost of drinks is tripled. A new tax on MPs so that their charges are tripled. And then the airport departure tax is tripled. Or, maybe they could instal an airport entry tax.

The iceberg is never a good thing!


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Posted on: 4:44 am on July 20, 2003
Mr Alan
Potentially much worse than immigration fees is the flap about the police taking kickbacks from the MP's. This could lead to a massive crackdown on the "extras".


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Posted on: 4:47 am on July 20, 2003
AlterEgo
I was in Japan in the early 70's... and that seemed to me to be the place to go for P4P and other things.  It is now one of the most expensive places in the world, and the P4P is outrageously high priced.  Next, I was in SKorea in the late 80's... and that seemed to me to be the place to go for P4P, and other things.  It is now going the same route as Japan, and the P4P is  getting quite expensive.... Now, I am in Thailand in the early 2000's..... get the picture...?


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Posted on: 1:40 pm on July 20, 2003
Smegma
AlEgo, you mean the Thai economy is going to do extremely well because this is the place where you come now for cheap p4p, just like you like went Japan and Korea before, and after your visit their economies went up?

Geez, they should give you the next Nobel prize in Economics. Or you should sell your servces to some other countries witn cheap p4p: I am sure Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil, Czech Republic and others would pay dearly for you to go there boost their ecomomies. They all have cheap p4p.


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Posted on: 2:52 pm on July 20, 2003
     

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