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Smegs: Thanks, it was/is a fascinating system, and make no mistake, it lives on in the hearts of many.
What would Thailand be like if it wasn't Thai? I don't wanna know...it will be what it will be.
Kumbaya.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:25 pm on May 7, 2010
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from haam sup on 4:19 pm on May 7, 2010
Mr. Alan: the point is that until Square Head started rabble-rousing, 18 or so coups occurred, without any mass demonstrations from Isaan. Happy? I guess we could pick on that word, but there hasn't been sufficient discontent, say, as compared with the colonists in America rising up against King George, having the original tea party, etc. Democracy foist upon a populace has no more chance of succeeding than tyranny. If it springs from the hearts you seem to wish to exist in Thailand, it will grow. I just don't think there is a reincarnated Jefferson in Udon.
Prior to 2006, I think they went about 17 years without a coup, so the idea that military rule is the norm in Thailand is simply not accurate anymore.
The idea that Westerners, and especially Americans, are trying to force democracy on Thailand is absurd. If they don't want democracy that is fine with me, but the red shirts are obviously calling for elections and have spilled blood in the streets in their effort to get one. I don't think the yellow shirts are opposed to democracy either (at least in principle).
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 4:41 pm on May 7, 2010
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jingjo
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A list of previous coups in Thailand
1971: Field Marshal Thanom Kittikachorn returns to power and abolishes the constitution and dissolves the parliament.
October 1973: A student-led uprising ousts the "Three Tyrants'' _ Thanom, his son Col. Narong Kittikachorn and his father-in-law Field Marshal Praphas Charusathien _ who ruled Thailand for much of the 1960s and early 1970s. A brief period of democracy ensues.
Oct. 6, 1976: At least 46 student protesters, who were demonstrating against the return of Thanom to Thailand, are killed and hundreds more are wounded by the police and army. A coup installs a new military-guided, right-wing government.
March 26, 1977: The military government thwarts a coup led by Gen. Chalard Hiranyasiri after Chalard and about 300 men seized four government and military buildings.
Oct. 20, 1977: A bloodless military coup, led by Admiral Sangad Chaloryoo, installs Kriangsak Chomanan as prime minister.
April 1, 1981: Factions in the military attempt to overthrow Prime Minister Prem Tinsulanonda's government.
Sept. 9, 1985: Retired military officers stage a failed coup attempt.
Feb. 23, 1991: Gen. Suchinda Kraprayoon topples the civilian government of Prime Minister Chatichai Choonhavan in a bloodless takeover.
May 1992: Suchinda is forced from power when troops gun down at least 50 pro-democracy demonstrators in Bangkok. In the aftermath of the violence, his appointed prime minister resigns. King Bhumibol Adulyadej intervenes to end demonstrations, and parliament votes to reduce the power of the military in Thai politics
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Posted on: 7:28 pm on May 7, 2010
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magnum
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... UPDATE SATURDAY MORNING, 8 MAY... more attacks last night, presumably by the militants upon whom Thaksin relies for the full government overthrow to pave his way back into power, and to return his confiscated ill-gotten billions...
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Violent attacks on Silom -one policeman dead
(The Nation, May 8, 2010)
One policeman was shot dead on Silom Road on Friday night and less than 3 hours later another violent bomb attack wound 4 policemen just in front of Lumpini Park on Rama IV Road.
The first attack ocurred on Friday night at 10.45pm just in front of Krung Thai Bank near Soi Saladaeng. A man on a bike fired bullets and hit 3 policemen and 2 passerbys. Pol.Cpl. Kannupan Lertchanpen who was shot in the stomach is dead.
Less than 3 hours later at 1.30am, there was an explosion near Gate 4 of Lumpini Park. Police spokesperson Pol Lt Gen Ponsatat Pongcharoen said that initially the police believed the grenades were M79 and the two attacks must be done by the same group of people who want to unstablize the situation.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 7:54 pm on May 7, 2010
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Adventure Guy
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Quote: from haam sup on 4:19 am on May 8, 2010
...both are about power...
Haam, you throw out such an obvious statement: "...both are about power" (how could anyone argue with that?) to deflect the non-sequitur that follows.
What you fail to understand or even consider, for whatever reason in such a mindset, is that ONE situation is about losing the little political power they have in their desperately impoverished circumstances, while the OTHER is about seizing that power from them through a coup, followed by an illegal appointment, followed by a protracted time to consolidate that power for the sole, continued and lengthy extension of the supremacy of the wealthy to the long lasting detriment of the poor majority. The poor are not so stupid. THey know that.
Granted Thaksin was corrupt (this unelected government is not?), granted Thaksin is using the rural folks as a ploy (the present self-proclaimed government is not not using the urban royalists as a ploy?). But have you tried to understand WHY they have had Thaksin thrown out (clue: it was NOT AT ALL about his financial corruption) and why they will not relinquish their illegal hold until after SEPTEMBER? If you learn only that much it might just influence your thinking - IF you have not completely closed your mind.
I am impresed that you have lived in Issan. We cannot all be so lucky. But I know some girls from Isaan. So THERE! Na, na na na, na!
But as with much of what you have said it does not take living in Issan to see an injustice of enormous and lasting proportions developing.
The Thai all deserve better.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:41 am on May 8, 2010
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jumpinjack
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If you live here you understand the ARMY is the main power player. Not always by coup but make no mistake "they" make decisions.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:16 am on May 8, 2010
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from quack quack on 1:38 am on May 8, 2010
China would never had made such astounding progress if that country had been a democracy.
1. What about Taiwan? Same ethic background and culture as PRC.
2. There has been an increasing amount of freedom and democracy in PRC (within the Party) that tracks nicely with economic successes of the country. They made very little economic progress when there was extreme central control of the government during the Chairman Mao days.
So there is no factual basis to say they couldn't have done it with a democracy.
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Posted on: 3:26 am on May 8, 2010
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from jingjo on 7:28 pm on May 7, 2010
A list of previous coups in Thailand
So they went 14 years without any coup, 1992 until 2006. That is an admirable achievement in that part of the world, and I don' t recall that anyone was complaining during that time frame.
Thailand has a very large number of young people, and they don't remember the old days when military coups were the norm. They grew up with a least some taste of democracy and they seem to like it, even if occasionally interrupted by the coups.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:32 am on May 8, 2010
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Adventure Guy
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Kayray, Kool, and haam,
Have you asked yourself why Abhisit agrees to dissolving parliament ONE WHOLE YEAR early, but absolutely refuses to do so a MERE 4 MONTHS earlier than that, i.e. before September, at the risk of civil war for that relatively short 4 month extra hold on power?
When you learn the answer to that one question you will know what this is really all about.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:31 am on May 8, 2010
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