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AlterEgo
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REZ; with just 94 posts as you have at the time I write this... you are hardly an old pro... especially tryin to give advice about how to use the board. If you start out as an asshole, like you did, I can see you being history real fast. I, on the other hand, am kind, informative, and friendly, until attacked by the likes of you.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:47 am on July 21, 2003
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AlterEgo
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And, I apologize to all other little monkeys....
Without going into a civics cum financial, cum geopolitical lesson. Improved Industry, tourism, and trade have always been the desired route in the "next tiger" in asia approach. If you were to examine the history of several SEA countries (to include Japan and SKorea), you will find this to be the case. As I read the newspaper, and in my visits to Thailand, I see the seeds of change. And this change brings increased prices throughout the infrastructure, to include p4p business. So, those with the ability to see beyond their immediate personal situation should be able to grasp this. As always, I welcome differing experiences, and opinions given in a positive and reflective manner. If, on the other hand, ......
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 10:54 am on July 21, 2003
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China Sailor
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AE,
Shame to see that SoCal has moved to SEA, I mean there goes the neighborhood.
As an American refugee from SoCal, a PR in Singapore, and having business interests throughout SEA and China, I must respectfully (and reflectively) inform you that your analysis is full of crap.
Because of the fall of the Asian Tigers in the late 90's, SARS, and JI; the entire economy has suffered resulting in a drop, not an increase in the costs of services.
Case in point, Singapore. Once one of the most expensive cities in Asia, did not even make the list this year. Our costs of living have gone down 20-50% across the board. KL, same story; Manila 10 times worse; Jakarta, never off the track; Thailand, still looking for a direction.
In SEA we are fighting a juggernaut called China, we have to reduce wages to compete with China thus driving the cost of living down. This has made GuangDong and ShenZhen tied as the 18th most expensive cities in the world
Nuff said, sorry I diverted the thread bros, I just can not standby and let these silly comments go unchallenged.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:14 am on July 21, 2003
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Vancouver Jay
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haam sup-
"And although it is a poor country, it has never had the kind of grinding poverty that has driven the poor, in, say, China to support the Communists. ÝRather, it maintains its culture, and is able to feed its people, if not drag them into the middle class."
I would debate you here and suggest that Buddhism may simply provide a different sort of buffer causing people to be less willing or able to recognize social inequities and privation or to act to rectify them.
The transitions between rule by divine right and rule of law also followed very different paths in these two countries. The power vacuum in China which opened doors to the Nationalists and Communists in turn had no direct analog in Thai history.
The resolution of past military governments and return of power to elected authority here has its roots as much in international pressure in the interest of security arrangements as it does popular revolts staged in the age of media.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:39 am on July 21, 2003
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AlterEgo
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CS: I challange you to take a look at the larger picture. And, I will tell you that time will tell. While your approach is just a little crude, you make some interesting points that are worthy of some discussion. Mayhaps, over a beer at sometime in the future. And yes, whenever Americans mix with other countries.... it is almost never to the benefit of all. By the way, where did you say you were from?
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:08 pm on July 21, 2003
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Smegma
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Quote: from AlterEgo on 10:47 pm on July 21, 2003
I, on the other hand, am kind, informative, and friendly, until attacked by the likes of you.
You should add also a great sense of modesty to your pedigree.
What an ego!?
BTW, guys, I guess we have here another candidate for the magic act. Should we give it a try? Ok. Here we go: AllEgo asshole!
(shhhh ..... wait .... give him some time, he is probably practicing in front of the mirror how to be more informative, kind and friendly)
Quote: from AlterEgo on 12:08 am on July 22, 2003
And, I will tell you that time will tell.
WOW! That one is deeeeep! Can you digest it a bit for me? I am dumb, you know.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:36 pm on July 21, 2003
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Kaymanx
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China Sailor,
Interesting even if a tad confusing (to me) post. Kindly clarify to my thick skull this: you say that, to compete with China the other SEA econonomies are forced to reduce wages thus driving down the cost of living. To my mind it appears that when wages are reduced (whether thro lay-offs or through wage cuts) the cost of production MIGHT be driven down, but the resulting unemployment and reduced take-home pay would make living even more difficult.
I do agree that in many areas the cost of living has declined, with many products costing less or simply not getting costlier with the years like they used to earlier. It appears that this is due in a big way to the large corporations that account for large chunks of supply in the market shifting their production bases out of the pricier locations like Singapore. And -- corroborating what you say about China being the major threat to SEA -- a large number of such shifts are happening INTO China. There is also a fear that Singapore would lose its primacy as Asia's entrepot to China.
Also, taking up from where AE left off, it is true that when infrastructure is developed at a fast pace, there would definitely be a big jump in cost of some services, such as tolls and taxes. I do remember, for example, last year the Thai authorities had to back track and reduce tolls on some expressways because motorists were refusing to use those facilities at those costs.
I also understand that the BTS is running at a loss. The BTS has seen hefty investments in building a spectacular facility yet the human traffic is nowhere near what is required to make it viable. The govt cannot allow this to close down. Yet someone is footing the bill, the citizens Ý included. Sorry, this might have been a bit off-track.
The mysterious contradiction in this flow of thought is that in the face of such massive development in China, their costs of services are NOT rising. But I suppose that is to be expected given the dog-on-leash.
I do agree with your theme that the SEA economies are on a downhill right now and costs for many services are going down. Air fares were recently down, hotel rates are down ... all the more surprising therefore -- to drag this thread back on track -- that the govt should think of raising visa charges so sharply.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:45 pm on July 21, 2003
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AlterEgo
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Dick Cheeze;Cheeze Whiz, Smegma.... (all the same thing)...
If you take both your hands, place them firmly on your ass cheeks, and push.... that popping sound that you hear will be you head being released from the bunghole that it now inhabits.... If you try adding some positive input to the thread, that would be a welcome change. I notice that you have not, ergo, you have not any positive input.... so... please refrain from thread f_cking, which is what you seem to excell at.
I see that Kaymanx has some positive input, and while I may not agree with everything he has to say, as he does not agree with 100% of my posit, he at least has put forth some thought.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:39 pm on July 21, 2003
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haam sup
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VJ,
"I would debate you here and suggest that Buddhism may simply provide a different sort of buffer causing people to be less willing or able to recognize social inequities and privation or to act to rectify them. "
I nearly included the influence of Buddhism in my (grossly oversimplified) version of the comparison. ÝOf course, I agree with you there. ÝThat said, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia are ALL Buddhist countries, who succumbed to Marxism while throwing off the shackles of their Imperial overseers...furthermore, I still submit that the EXTENT of the institutionalization of the feudal system, and the corruption accompanying it were responsible for rousing the peasant revolts, unseen in modern Thailand.
As for the 'power vacuum' in China, and the rise of Communism, I disagree with your analysis, but this isn't the place. ÝSuffice to say that Thailand has been the historical beneficiary of uniquely competent leadership during the heyday of colonialism, i.e., Rama IV and V, and even further back, which allowed Thailand to avoid becoming a colony.
Just to further deflate the AlterEgo: Japan and Korea are NOT part of SEA.
And Rezyek, the countries you named are ALL Communist states, and do not count. ÝInstead, consider Malaysia and Singapore, which have better developed economies...
haam sup
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:53 pm on July 21, 2003
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AlterEgo
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Saw this post..... Price increase over the last 25 years...
Reading through this 1967 dated copy of Bangkok After Dark, it is interesting to compare the price of hotels back then with now.
Prices in the brochure are listed in $US, no doubt due to the high number of American servicemen who were in town for R+R. Back then, the baht was trading at 20 to the US dollar whereas now it is at 42.
To keep things simple, I'll compare the prices in $US only. The world's most famous sex tourist hotel, the "new" Nana Hotel, had rooms for $US 11 while the current price of around $US 25 suggests an
increase of a bit over 110 % over a 35 year period - which seems awfully reasonable, all things considered. The Federal Hotel, another favourite amongst whorists, had rooms from as little as $US 7. Today, you can get a room there for around $US 20, a price increase of around 200%, again, still very reasonable given the
period of time we are talking about. The Oriental Hotel had rooms from a very reasonable $US 13 while now I believe their rates start at $US 220 a room, an increase of a few zillion percent. The most expensive hotel room was at the Siam Intercontinental Hotel and cost
$US 19.50 per night. One can read several things into these figures. 5 Star hotels in Bangkok price themselves at international prices even though I am fairly sure that many of their labour related costs are much less than in other countries.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:05 pm on July 21, 2003
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