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Minder
Yep, he is less competent but senior and "in-charge" and I had to sit there letting it go bad till it penetrated his thick head we were in trouble then I would quietly take over, fix things and we'd do it all again - the good ones learnt to let go early, one or two never did. Yeah, lives were at stake but not a plane load...just a few, but that is more than enough.

If that letter is a fake its a good one....I have tears in my eyes now for Montri....I have never flown a plane but I have sat in his seat too many times. What a waste.....


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Posted on: 9:11 pm on Sep. 18, 2007
Oldtimer
My God ! Can this tale by shoke be true? With an airline background myself, I have never heard anything like it.

If true, the consequences will be rather significant for the budget airline industry in this part of the world.


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Posted on: 10:19 pm on Sep. 18, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Wednesday 19 September 2007 :-

Airline chief defends pilot of doomed Phuket flight
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The Indonesian pilot of the no-frills jet that crashed and killed 89 people on the resort island of Phuket over the weekend was defended Tuesday as a calm, experienced commander by the chairman of One-Two-Go Airlines that operated the plane.

Several of the surviving passengers have criticised the pilot, 56-year-old Arief Mulyadi, who died in the crash along with his Thai co-pilot, as foolish to attempt to land in hard driving rain and strong crosswinds rather than divert to another airfield.

The pilot appeared to attempt a landing, only to change his mind when the plane was about 100 metres from the runway. According to witnesses, the 25-year-old McDonnell Douglas MD-82 jet appeared to rise slightly before crashing into the ground, skidding, breaking in half and bursting into flames.

"He was not hot-headed by character and had plenty of aviation experience under his belt... The pilot who flew the doomed aircraft was one of our best. He was very experienced, patient and very decisive," One-Two-Go Airline chairman Kajit Hapananont told the Bangkok Post.

"There was no way of knowing in advance what sort of obstacles lay ahead for any pilot. What do people who have reached their own conclusions on the crash use as facts on which to base their presumptions on? The black boxes are still here and have yet to be sent to the United States for experts to examine," he added.

The dead pilot worked for two now defunct Indonesian airlines before joining the budget carrier, according to reports from Jakarta.

The air traffic controller on duty at Phuket airport at the time of the crash, who talked the pilot down, has been sent to Bhumibol Aeronautical Hospital to be tested to see if he is mentally fit to continue duty, said Kamthorn Sirikorn, deputy director of the Thailand's Aeronautical Department. There was no suggestion the controller did anything wrong, it was merely routine, he added.

The transcript of the conversation between the control tower and the pilot shows that the pilot was warned about wind shear but had decided to land anyway, said the air transport department's director general Chaisak Ungsuwan on Thai television. "The last word the pilot said was 'landing'," he added.

The authorities and officials of the airline have so far blamed the severe weather conditions, leaving many puzzled as driving rain and high winds are common during the typhoon season.

Several aviation experts said it was likely the crash will lead to a temporary turning away by customers from low-cost airlines, which have expanded rapidly in Asia in recent years. There have been veiled suggestions that in the scramble to capture market position in a young "no frills" industry some carriers may have been tempted to take safety short cuts.

The Sydney-based Centre for Asia-Pacific Aviation reported earlier this year that no frills airlines in the region were struggling to find planes and pilots to keep up with burgeoning demand. The consultancy had a policy of not commenting on airline crashes.

Indonesia has acquired a poor reputation because of several air crashes in recent years following the rise of dozens of apparently poorly regulated small airlines. But the fact that in the Phuket crash the pilot was Indonesia means nothing, said One-Two-Go's Kajit.

"The reason why more than half of our pilots are non-Thais is because not very many (pilots) can fly an MD plane. We are the only company using this type of aircraft, and that's why we employ several Indonesian pilots because they have lots of MD's there," he said.

This is Thailand's worst air disaster since 1998 when a THAI Airways International jet ploughed into a field at the Surat Thani airport in southern Thailand with the loss of 101 lives - also in driving rain.


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Posted on: 2:35 am on Sep. 19, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Wednesday 19 September 2007 :-

Phuket service resumed by One-Two-Go
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One-Two-Go resumed air services to Phuket yesterday, following Sunday's disastrous crash, but the two flights made the trip only half full. The airline normally has five daily flights to the resort island. Passengers travelled in the same model jet, the McDonnell Douglas MD-82, that flew the ill-fated flight OG-269 on Sunday.

The 172-seat planes carried 100 and 72 passengers on the two flights. Most passengers had been transferred from Monday's cancelled flight, said an employee at the airline's check-in counter at Don Mueang airport.

The number of passengers One-Two-Go has carried overall has decreased by 10% since the crash, the employee said.

Flights to Phuket will be increased to four today, but most seats had still not been booked, the airline's call centre said yesterday.

A passenger travelling on Flight OG-269 yesterday which departed at 2.30pm, the same time as the ill-fated flight, said he had no fear and believed the airline would step up safety standards after the tragedy.

Wutthichai Saiyuket, another passenger, said Sunday's crash was a rare event and he had not lost trust in the airline.

One-Two-Go CEO Khajit Hapnanont, however, said passengers had not decreased and the crash had not affected the airliner's safety image.

He also said One-Two-Go is not a low-cost airline as reported, but a budget airline.

Unlike low-cost airlines, which charge high prices for booking seats on short notice or when fewer seats are available, a budget airline offers flat ticket prices, regardless of booking time.

Budget airlines also offer more benefits, such as seat numbers, free snacks and drinks on board and more allowed baggage, said Mr Khajit.


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Posted on: 2:44 am on Sep. 19, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from The Nation dated Wednesday 19 September 2007 :-

Sunday's plane crash victim to get Bt4.5 million compensation
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Each victim of One-Two-Go flight that crashed on Sunday would receive compensation of US$130,000 (Bt4.5 million).

The conclusion was reached during the Wednesday meeting between Transport Minister Theera Haocharoen, Deputy Transport Minister Sansern Wongchaum, Transport Permanent Secretary Chaisawat Kittipornpaibul, Civil Aviation Department DirectorGeneral Chaisak Angsuwan and One-Two-Go CEO Khajit Hapnanont.

Theera said at the press conference after the meeting that the compensation figure was a result of One-Two-Go negotiation with the insurer.

He noted that for the injured passengers, the budget airline would initially handle compensations for all medical bills as well as expenses that their relatives shouldered while travelling down to Phuket.

"Though the insurer agrees to pay compensation of $130,000 for each victim, we're not quite satisfied with the figure. We are negotiating to raise the compensation to $150,000," Khajit said.


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Posted on: 2:52 am on Sep. 19, 2007
China Sailor
That is not bad really, under the Warsaw Convention the total limitation on compensation is about $75,000 per passenger.

When the Montreal Convention takes effect in a country the amount increases to $149,000 (2007 figure).

The whole thing is based on Special Drawing Rights (SDR) whose value is adjusted annually based on Forex rates.

This of course applies to international travel only and each country will set its own policy for domestic travel.

So it seems to me that 1-2-3-Go and their insurance company have decided to hedge against lawsuits by going with the higher Montreal Convention numbers...




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Posted on: 3:08 am on Sep. 19, 2007
shamas
RIP


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Posted on: 2:24 pm on Sep. 19, 2007
Mel Gibson
The majority of Asians are really good on small motor-bikes,, why do they wanrt to f*** around with cars and Aeroplanes??? My Thai wife chose not to answer that one.

Mel


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Posted on: 9:42 am on Sep. 24, 2007
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Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 4:44 pm on Sep. 19, 2007

Airline chief defends pilot of doomed Phuket flight
Of course he does....


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Posted on: 10:16 am on Sep. 24, 2007
black cats
Late response and my quote function isn't working, but to doc love about my rebooking with Air Asia.

First I felt somewhat guilty/selfish in the wake of this accident being concerned about the status of MY flight. But I couldn't just assume it was cancelled and potentially miss it. So at 8 AM Monday morning when the Air Asia offices opened I called to inquire. My bag remained packed in case it was learned that the airport would re open and I had to leave in an instant. The latest info they had was that the airport would reopen at 5 PM that night but had no further info could I please call back in 30-60 minutes.

I did so several times and they still were operating under the assumption that the airport would reopen at 5PM, but that if I could confirm my flight (provide a booking number) for Monday at 1250 PM I could be put on any flight for the next day as they all had open seats. So rather than pursue getting on a flight after 5PM Monday and risk the opening being delayed and cacelling that flight too I elected to be put on the same exact flight on Tuesday rather than Monday. They used the same booking code as my original flight and everything worked out well.

I even got a somewhat sunny day on the beach out of it as it had been rainy all the previous days. I made sure I got in the water and swam too as life can be cut brutally short or tragically altered and I wanted to make sure I soaked up the real Phuket experience should anything go wrong on my way out.


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Posted on: 10:20 am on Sep. 25, 2007
     

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