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Gyaos

The new fees for international departures at Suvarnabhumi and other AoT airports means passengers will be paying more than passengers do when they leave Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, and slightly less than Hong Kong.


Yes, but in Hong Kong I can...........

Gyaos.


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Posted on: 5:26 pm on Feb. 2, 2007
DaffyDuck

Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 11:24 am on Feb. 2, 2007

Airline executives said the airports of Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia, which are competing with Bangkok's airport, can justify their fees as they offer greater value than Suvarnabhumi and AoT airports.

''It is unfair for passengers to be penalised by the increased charge, on top of the poor service they are getting at Suvarnabhumi,'' said one executive.

Another said the airport should have suspended the increase until authorities can ensure that passengers get the kind of service they deserve.
These appear to be the voices of reason.


Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 11:24 am on Feb. 2, 2007
AoT says the increase is needed to help raise money to fix the construction flaws at the airport, including cracked and damaged runways.
Okay, but if these additional costs were caused by improper construction management on the part of AoT, then should these repair costs not be absorbed either from existing profits, prior profits, or an alternate slush fund - without impacting your 'customers'?


Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 11:24 am on Feb. 2, 2007
It would provide the promised returns to shareholders, it said. AoT is 70% state-owned.
Niiiice. Maintaining profits at all costs may be a nice scenario, but considering the primary shareholder is the very government that was responsible for the problems, had their hands deep in the pockets of the airport, and needs the airport to fit their stated goal - shouldn't those responsible carry those costs, instead of (again) the victims, I mean, customers?


Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 11:24 am on Feb. 2, 2007
In the last fiscal year, AoT posted a 41% jump in net profit to 10.4 billion baht.
I guess corruption and sycophancy are profitable business' to be in - but it also means that AoT has plenty of funds to cover these expenses, without risking insolvency. I guess it's easier to have your customers cover your bad investments.


Quote: from PussyLover 69 on 11:24 am on Feb. 2, 2007
With earnings before interest and tax of 64% in 2006, AoT is the most profitable airport company in Asia and among the top five in the world.

So, crime and corruption *do* pay quite well, then?

The problem, for the customers, really, is that there is no alternative. What are you gonna do? Walk to Thailand?



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Posted on: 7:35 pm on Feb. 2, 2007
PussyLover 69

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 9:59 am on Feb. 3, 2007
The problem, for the customers, really, is that there is no alternative. What are you gonna do? Walk to Thailand?


Of course we can't walk to Thailand !

But for DaffyDuck, it is NOT a problem for him as he can fly to Thailand - he doesn't need to sit on an airplane to go to LOS


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Posted on: 2:35 am on Feb. 5, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Monday 5 February 2007 :-

Don Muang Airport reopening put on hold
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Transport Minister Admiral Thira Haocharoen on Monday revealed the ministry would not propose a plan to transfer some non-connecting domestic flights back to former Bangkok International Airport to the cabinet for consideration at its meeting on Tuesday, citing it needed to go through some details of the plan to ensure complete transfer.

He conceded the ministry would not put the plan on the agenda at the cabinet’s meeting because it still lacked certain data on the transfer.

“Some delays are needed to ensure the planned transfer of the local flights back to Don Muang is clear and complete,” he said.

He added the ministry would call state agencies concerned to meet and discuss details of the plan again.

A source said the planed transfer of the no-connecting domestic flights back to Don Muang experienced difficulties in outsourcing ground staff to work in the airport.

The lack of the staff at the airport stemmed from a termination of contracts made with various service providers when the transfer of services to the Suvarnabhumi Airport was made in September last year.

Anyhow, should the ministry propose the plan to the cabinet’s meeting next week, there would be 45 days left for the transfer under the ministry’s scheme to see the Don Muang reopen in the Songkran (Thai New Year) festival to accommodate an expected large number of inbound and outbound passengers.


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Posted on: 2:40 am on Feb. 5, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Monday 5 February 2007 :-

More problems at new airport - Passenger boarding bridges need repairs
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Suvarnabhumi airport has another flaw -11 passenger boarding bridges are damaged, two of them seriously, according to a source at Airports of Thailand (AoT).

Officials are looking into the cause of the problem, but cannot yet say whether it is due to substandard steel, improper installation of the airbridges or the failure of staff of Thai Airports Ground Services Co (Tags) to operate the moveable bridges properly.

Two boarding bridges were seriously damaged and the others would need minor repairs, the source said.

The bridges at gates D5 and F1 must be closed due to the serious nature of the damage and their walls must be replaced. The bridges at gates G5, G3, F5, D6, C7 and B4 are slightly damaged but still usable.

Suvarnabhumi has 51 gates and 105 passenger boarding bridges. The bridges were built by ITO Joint Venture, which is the airport contractor, and AoT contracts Tags to operate them.

The AoT had informed ITO and the company promised to repair them in a week, the source said.

An ITO source said operators compounded the damage as they continued to use the airbridges despite problems with the moveable mechanisms.

The ITO source insisted the steel used to build the airbridges met specifications and could withstand 520 kilogrammes per square metre.

Deputy Transport Minister Sansern Wongchaum became aware of the problem during his visit to the airport last week and ordered quick repairs to minimise any impact on passengers.

Former Suvarnabhumi airport director Somchai Sawasdeepol attributed the problem to the moveable mechanisms of the boarding bridges' extendable tunnels.

A passenger boarding bridge consists of three extendable and retractable tunnels. The moveable mechanisms, especially the wheels and rails, might have been packed too tightly and operating them might have cracked the bridges, especially the middle tunnel. Those cracks finally rust due to oxidation.

According to the source, AoT informed ITO of the problem late in December and officially asked the company to repair the bridges on Jan 22.

ITO proposed checking all passenger boarding bridges and to later check them every three to six months to ensure their smooth operation.

Apart from problems with the passenger boarding bridges, the four-month-old Suvarnabhumi airport has cracked runways as well as cracked and uneven taxiways.

The premature damage will probably result in some domestic flights being moved back to Don Muang airport. The Transport Ministry's recommendation will be tabled for cabinet approval tomorrow.


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Posted on: 3:03 am on Feb. 5, 2007
DaffyDuck
Oh boy, trying to save face on that fiasco is certainly becoming more and more of a juggling act.


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Posted on: 11:27 am on Feb. 5, 2007
Loung Steeb
It's Bush's fault....


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Posted on: 12:08 pm on Feb. 5, 2007
PussyLover 69
I was told that Thaksin put a 7-years curse on the new Airport after he was overthown................ wo we have to wait until 2014 for things to return to normal......... in the meantime please bear with the inconveniences


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Posted on: 3:43 am on Feb. 6, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Tuesday 6 February 2007 :-

Never say 'forever' - Don Muang Airport born again
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The cabinet on Tuesday approved the plan for two international airports in Bangkok, giving second life to the 93-year-old airport at Don Muang which was closed last year, supposedly forever, to make way for modern, expensive, but profoundly damaged Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont said the decision was made due to the problems at Suvarnabhumi. The $3.7 billion facility already needs massive repairs to taxiways and runways. It has a leaking roof, unattractive terminal, lack of signboards and toilets, poor lighting and faulty air-conditioning.

Most spectacularly, it is too small to serve Bangkok for much longer.

"The number of passengers is also increasing at the Suvarnabhumi Airport. So we feel there is a need to have two international airports... We will make a final decision in two weeks' time," he told reporters after the Cabinet meeting.

The government had first suggested that domestic flights without international connections operate from Don Muang, but many airlines feared that lack of a transport link between the two airports could cause inconvenience for overseas-bound passengers flying in from the provinces.

Transport Minister Thira Haocharoen said the airport could be used within 45 days after a final decision was made, adding that renovation works were going on to re-open the Don Muang Airport which used to be an airfield for the Royal Thai Army and opened in 1914.

It is currently the headquarters of the Royal Thai Air Force.

He said the government would let airlines decide if they want to return to the Don Muang, operate from both airports or maintain their current base at Suvarnabhumi.

The new airport, which began full commercial operations last Sept 28, had its west runway closed for repairs recently. Several flights had to be diverted to the U-Tapao military airfield in Chon Buri for refuelling after waiting in the holding pattern.

Situated about 25km east of Bangkok at Nong Ngu Hao (the Cobra Swamp) Suvarnabhumi claims in its official motto to be the "Pride of Thailand". It is the world's largest airport under one roof, and has the world's highest aircraft control tower. The government at one time was banking on it to make Thailand the undisputed aviation hub of Asia.

The first phase of Suvarnabhumi is expected to handle three million tonnes of cargo and up to 45 million passengers, which is 15 million more than Don Muang.

The Airports of Thailand's (AoT) board approved in principle the reopening of the old airport following an outcry from low-cost airlines over the higher operating fees at the new airport.

Don Muang served more than 80 airlines in 2004, with 160,000 flights and 700,000 tonnes of cargo and was the 14th busiest airport in the world by passenger volume.


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Posted on: 3:53 am on Feb. 6, 2007
PussyLover 69
Report fromThe Nation dated Tuesday 6 February 2007 :-

King Power has 'more space than was allotted to it'
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An official investigating alleged contract violations by King Power has urged General Saprang Kalayanamitra to act against the duty-free operator.

In a special interview with Nation Group editor Thepchai Yong, General Pathompong Kesornsuk, chairman of a subcommittee investigating King Power, said it was clear that the company had violated its contract by changing a floor plan, setting up too many stalls and blocking the passage of passengers.

Pathompong said he had reported his findings to Saprang, who is the chairman of the Airports of Thailand (AOT) board of directors, and said Saprang would have to act against King Power.


For more details, please refer to :-

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/02/06/business/business_30026041.php



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