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Valetta
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Daffy,my argument was not that there were no extreme views held by the Red Shirts,but that such views were held by a minority.
Arisaman was one of many Red Shirt leaders.There is no evidence that his views were endorsed by the Red Shirt leadership as a whole.
Nuttawuth did not advocate arson as something Red Shirts should do to force the government to accept their demands.He said that if the govenment abandoned democratic processes,and seized power,Red Shirts should retaliate with fire.But again there is no evidence that his view was shared by Red Shirt leaders as a whole.
With such a disparate assemblage of people it is not surprising that some held extreme views,and advocated violence.In these circumstances it is easy to cherry pick 2 expressions of extreme views.It would be surprising if there were not many other recorded examples of Red Shirt leaders urging restraint,and non violence, because that was what prevailed for all but the last few days of the 8 weeks the Red Shirts were in Bangkok.
The undisputed facts are that the number of Red Shirt supporters dwindled from 300,000 to a few hundred when the army made their final assault,and it was some only of these who were responsible for the arson in Bangkok.
I condemn the arson.There was no justification for it.It occured no doubt as a reaction to the army assault.That provides an explanation for why it happened,but in no way does it provide any justification.
Nevertheless it is now encumbent on the government to make every reasonable effort to reconcile its differences with the Red Shirts,and prevent the violent extreme views of a minority from gaining more widespread support.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:28 am on May 21, 2010
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Deep File
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Good stuff BK. Why do I have the suspicion that there will be no real consequences for any of these guys?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:57 am on May 21, 2010
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S M E G M A
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 3:18 pm on May 21, 2010
Not sure why you would object to anyone pointing out the truth.
It would be absurd if I were to object to what I said myself. I was not. The point was that you seemed to be proud showing that you could indeed read and understand what I said as you just repeated it. But now not so sure you really can, after reading what I quote above.
BTW, I was not objecting I was ridiculing you... and you just keep making it easier. 
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:05 am on May 21, 2010
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 3:08 pm on May 21, 2010
I suspect that the Red Shirts are right now thinking about the Yellow Shirt demonstrations of a few years ago and wondering why their demonstrations turned out different
Psychic powers to read minds, divination? Wow! That is great! Lets try his one, what do you suspect that I think about your posts?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:11 am on May 21, 2010
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Quote: from Valetta on 6:28 pm on May 21, 2010
"my argument was not that there were no extreme views held by the Red Shirts,but that such views were held by a minority.... Arisaman was one of many Red Shirt leaders. There is no evidence that his views were endorsed by the Red Shirt leadership as a whole. "
This is an apologist's view. Why do you ignore the fact that these leaders were not ordinary people but experienced politicians who knew too well the art of rabble rousing. They were fully aware that they were igniting a dangerous spark and they got away merrily only because the Thai way of life leaves very little scope for hard headed decision-making by the government. In another country the government would have dealt with them more directly. I cannot see the likes of Arisaman and Natthawut getting away in another country with these inflammatory direct calls to arson in the midst of a metropolitan city.
If, the other Red leaders did not share the view of the extremist factions nobody was stopping them from dissociating themselves from these voices. Or, was somebody stopping them ? Which reinforces the case against them all : guilt by association. This anyway is the precept followed today by all governments in dealing with terrorist activities. Why do you, as a champion of western-style democracy, baulk now at applying the same rule that the west follows in dealing with abettors of terrorist activity ?
It was a clear case of collective blackmail of the entire country by thaksin and his hordes, and none of the leaders can escape that charge.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:05 pm on May 21, 2010
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from S M E G M A on 10:11 am on May 21, 2010
Psychic powers to read minds, divination? Wow! That is great! Lets try his one, what do you suspect that I think about your posts?
I don't care what you think. But I was disagreeing as to what you said about the Yellow Shirt demonstrations and illegal occupation of the airport being ancient history and irrelevant to today. I think it is very relevant, and likely gave the Red Shirts the idea that they could do the same as the Yellow Shirts (bring down the government and suffer no attack by the military).
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:47 pm on May 21, 2010
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 3:47 am on May 22, 2010
I don't care what you think. But I was disagreeing as to what you said about the Yellow Shirt demonstrations and illegal occupation of the airport being ancient history and irrelevant to today.
How could you disagree with me about things I have not discussed? LOL. I never mentioned yellow shirts or airport occupation; you did on your own. You are really LOL. The more you write, the more you sound like Daffy. LOLOLOLOL
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:57 pm on May 21, 2010
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Thaksin's Reds Terrorized Bangkok ! 