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China Sailor

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 2:26 pm on Oct. 27, 2005

Quote: from China Sailor on 7:46 pm on Oct. 26, 2005
As for the Chinese Leadership the comment about a 'sheep herders' background may have applied 20 years ago but if you check the current 'Who’s Who' of Chinese Leadership you will see that since Mao died they have been carefully groomed for their positions. Many hold advanced degrees from the best Universities in the world.


I should have been more accurate, in that respect -- I was not referring to the top levels of the Chinese gov't. These folks all read really well on a resumé, but unfortunately, while they certainly are the ones setting policy, they are not the ones executing and enforcing those policies.

Provincial and regional leaders, the ones expected to follow policy, are the ones I was referencing, and you will find that these 'leaders'' backgrounds are far more mundane...





And the local politicos in the US (esp California) are any different???


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Posted on: 7:00 am on Oct. 27, 2005
China Sailor
It seems that the Bush Administration policy will have no effect on Roche's bottom line:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/10/27/roche.tamiflu.ap/index.html

So much for the Avian Flu conspircy theory...


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Posted on: 7:50 am on Oct. 27, 2005
Broken Leg

Quote: from China Sailor on 8:19 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
It seems that the Bush Administration policy will have no effect on Roche's bottom line:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/10/27/roche.tamiflu.ap/index.html

So much for the Avian Flu conspircy theory...


and just how the did you manage to work that out from that particular article


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Posted on: 8:41 am on Oct. 27, 2005
China Sailor
BL,

That is a response to madfrog's allegations that the Bush Administration was pushing the sale of Tamiflu to in the US as part of a conspiracy to make money for Rumsfeld.

Obviously, if Roche is not going to deliver on contracts in the US, then any actions by the US Government is moot thus undermining the contention that Rumsfeld has anything to do with promoting an Avian Flu myth.

In my mind Rumsfeld is an evil man and has been as long a I have known him. However Avian Flu is not a myth and should not be discounted to support wild conspiracy theroies


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Posted on: 8:56 am on Oct. 27, 2005
Broken Leg
China Sailor,

I realised that, but you cannot ascertain that from that article read it more carefully.

The article says the US order for Tamiflu will be suspended not cancelled, the order will still be delivered, but it is being delayed whilst Roche gets out the normal winter (flu season) stocks of Tamiflu to countries throughout the world who actually need it for something real.

Anyway even if the US order was cancelled, they are still going to make billions from orders right around the rest of the world.



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Posted on: 9:27 am on Oct. 27, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from China Sailor on 7:28 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
And the local politicos in the US (esp California) are any different???


Don't get around much, do you, especially to California. Why California, anyway? They're all tree huggers out there, anyways.


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Posted on: 1:32 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
madfrog
Hit on me as hard as you like, I dont believe this avian flue thing is natural...As usual it is lies, lies lies for money, nothing else.

Funny thing: did you noticed that on Chatuchak Market they moved most of the chickens to hide them....in a tiny corner placed NEXT TO THE RESTAURATION ZONE !!!!

Amazing Thailand indeed!

Madfrog


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Posted on: 5:12 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from madfrog on 5:40 am on Oct. 28, 2005
Hit on me as hard as you like, I dont believe this avian flue thing is natural...As usual it is lies, lies lies for money, nothing else.


It's been around for thousand of years - we just have more conditions to breed it, and we have more idiots to spread it, and more medira to report it.

It's a very natural virus.


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Posted on: 8:45 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from China Sailor on 7:28 pm on Oct. 27, 2005

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 2:26 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
Provincial and regional leaders, the ones expected to follow policy, are the ones I was referencing, and you will find that these 'leaders'' backgrounds are far more mundane...



To further underline my original opinion:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3458421a14955,00.html

Yes, alegedly she did not die from Avian FLu, but some unspecified fever with flu-like symptoms (!), but the attitude of the father, expert farmer that he is, sends shivers up and down my spine:

"We had dead chickens before and nobody has ever got sick because of that. So I thought it's okay"

Oh, by all means, there's no risk at all. Hygiene, anyone? Common sense, anyone?

Bloody illiterate peasantry!


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Posted on: 11:38 pm on Oct. 27, 2005
Hermanolobo

Quote: from DaffyDuck on 9:13 am on Oct. 28, 2005

Quote: from madfrog on 5:40 am on Oct. 28, 2005
Hit on me as hard as you like, I dont believe this avian flue thing is natural...As usual it is lies, lies lies for money, nothing else.


It's been around for thousand of years - we just have more conditions to breed it, and we have more idiots to spread it, and more medira to report it.

It's a very natural virus.



Daffy Duck has been around for thousands of years !
"The most vilainous smell that ever offended nostril!" - Falstaff
W Shakespeare


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Posted on: 6:38 am on Oct. 28, 2005
     

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