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madfrog
Autosweep : I will arrive around the 25 and leave one month later, so I ll arrive at Don muang a few days before it close and leave from the new one...
Hope they have enought of one month to make the luggage system functionnal
Please please Buddha save my luggage LOL

Madfrog


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Posted on: 11:26 am on July 22, 2006
S M E G M A

Quote: from Yurune on 5:05 pm on July 22, 2006
I live on Upper Sukhumvit and I can see the new airport from my bedroom window, no way I could say the same for Don Muang.

I can see the moon from my bedroom window, no way I could say the same for where you live. Thus the distance between the moon and my place must be less than the distance between our places. Right?


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Posted on: 1:52 pm on July 22, 2006
BigDUSA
Autosweep,

I would change my reservation to an earlier date. Looking in my Crystal ball, I see nothing but chaos for the first month after the new airport opens. : ( : (

I would strongly recommend travel insurance for lost luggage.


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Posted on: 3:43 pm on July 22, 2006
bkkmaster
This site talks about the airport's transit supposedly being done within 2 years post launch, as BigD said
http://www.business-in-asia.com/thai_new_airport.htm

And this one is another pretty good infomative site I passed with maps and stuff.

http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/bangkok/


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Posted on: 5:04 pm on July 22, 2006
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Friday 28 July 2006 :-

Airport has 'high risk' areas : Int'l civil aviation body questions its readiness
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The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has questioned the readiness of Suvarnabhumi airport for its official opening on Sept 28.

The ICAO report, based on its information collected and observations made between last month and early this month, identifies 29 high-risk areas - or about one-third of the 93 items on its checklist.

Forty-three are rated as medium-risk and the rest low-risk.

It defines a high-risk item as one which "will most probably not be possible to resolve" before the opening date and could delay the opening plan.

Its report, sent to Airports of Thailand Plc (AoT), a copy of which was obtained by the Bangkok Post, was leaked to the press yesterday ahead of key landing and operation tests for local flights set for tomorrow.

However, Suvarnabhumi airport general manager Somchai Sawasdeepon and caretaker Deputy Transport Minister Chainant Charoensiri yesterday confirmed the readiness of tomorrow's tests when Thai Airways International, Bangkok Airways, Thai AirAsia, One-Two-Go Airlines, Nok Air, and PB Air will service 20 local flights in and out of the new international airport in Samut Prakan's Bang Phli district.

"Everything is ready [for the test flights]," Mr Somchai said.

AoT president Chotisak Asapaviriya refused to comment on the ICAO report, saying he had not seen it yet. Some people were trying to derail attempts to open the 155-billion-baht airport for commercial flights in September, he said.

The group's tactics included releasing false or fabricated information to serve their purpose, said the chief of AoT, an agency under the Transport Ministry overseeing international airports, including Suvarnabhumi.

Mr Somchai and Aviation Department chief Chaisak Angkasuwan said the ICAO report was an internal document used by airport officials to check on the progress of the project.

Both were confident that all problems identified by the United Nations-affiliated agency responsible for airport safety and security would be fixed in time for the official opening.

The report was made by the ICAO for AoT to check-list problems that need to be corrected, Mr Somchai said.

"It's like a warning for us to know which areas need to be improved.

"None of the listed problems are new.

"The report comes out every month for us to evaluate progress, and alert us to emergency issues," he said.

The airport agency also hired an independent firm, FAEZA, to double-check the readiness of all systems, said the Suvarnabhumi airport chief.

Outgoing Senator Chirmsak Pinthong said he was worried about the risks mentioned in the ICAO report, especially with landings taking place at the 155-billion-baht airport tomorrow.

He saw tomorrow's tests as events designed to boost the image of caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

He called on Mr Thaksin to take responsibility should any accident occur after all flight operations, both domestic and international, are moved from Don Muang to the new airport on Sept 28.

Among the high-risk items identified by the ICAO in its report are the "airfield visual aides" including taxiway, apron and airside road signs, lights and markings.

Failure to address them could lead to unsafe ground operations which "may contribute to an aircraft incident or accident", the report says.

Other identified risks outside the airport's terminal include a high antenna tower at the King Mongkut Institute of Technology's Lat Krabang campus which, the report says, could pose safety risks for planes approaching a runway, inadequate lighting for illuminating obstacles around the airport, insufficient safe areas at runway extremities, and the lack of an effective wildlife hazard control programme.

The institute's tower should be lowered and safe areas at runway ends expanded, according to the report.

Problems inside the building were identified as the baggage handling system and preparations for emergency situations, especially the fire alarm system.

Suvarnabhumi is being run under a temporary certificate issued by the Aviation Department.

It needs a permanent one approved by the ICAO for the Sept 28 opening.






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Posted on: 11:10 pm on July 27, 2006
Basil Bush
I wonder if their are persons with a vested interest in delaying the completion of the airport like for reasons like; their well paid job will end, their work permit will end and they will have to leave LOS, they hope the fiasco of the airport will be the final nail in the coffin of Toxin?

May be all three???

BB


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Posted on: 12:09 am on July 28, 2006
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Saturday 29 July 2006 :-

First commercial flight lands on Suvarnabhmi Airport
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The first commercial test flight from Don Muang Airport to Bangkok's new Suvarnabhumi Airportof of Thai Airways International (THAI), the national flag carrier, landed successfully on the new airport Saturday morning as scheduled.

The THAI's Boeing 747-400 aircraft, TG181 flight, carrying Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, other cabinet members, senior government officials and other passengers, historically landed on Suvarnabhumi Airport's runway at 08:09 a.m.

THAI has offered a special airfare of Bt999 for the inaugural commercial flight from Don Muang Airport to Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Prime Minister Thaksin told journalists before boarding on the inaugural commercial flight that he was excited and delighted that finally the Bangkok's new internatinal airport was successfully developed after a four-decade plan.

Upon his arrival at the new airport, the prime minister is scheduled to take hours to visit and inspect the readiness of all facilities before flying back to Don Muang Airport.

THAI and other five commercial airlines, including Nok Air, Thai Air Asia, Orient Thai, P.B. Air and Bangkok Airways, join the commercial flight tests for Suvarnabhumi Airport with special flights on Saturday.

The first test flight of the national airline is to be followed by 21 other domestic flights all the day.

The Department of Civil Aviation has already issued the Interim Aerodome Certificate for the Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Many airlines, including THAI, Bangkok Airways and Air Asia, have announced that they plan to open new international routes to serve the commercial opening of Suvarnabhumi Airport on September 28.

With the scheduled opening of the country's new international airport only a few months away, complete testing of the new airport facilities has begun since July 3 to ensure that the national showcase is fully ready for the launch.

The tests include the airport's air-conditioning and lighting systems, passenger check-in counters, customs services and the operation of CTX bomb scanners.

The eight-storey airport complex, including an underground floor, where there will be electric mass transit facilities, and passenger terminals, has a total area of some 563,000 square metres and can cater to 45 million passengers annually.

Meanwhile, the Department of Land Transport has affirmed the readiness of transport service for passengers to the new international airport.

The department said that transport services to the new Bangkok interntional airport include limousines, airport buses and airport express service.

Airport buses, including inter-provincial bus service, will be run by the Transport Co., Ltd and the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority (BMTA).

The airport express service, operated by the Thonburi Service Co., Ltd., will provide buses running through the capital's business areas and to downtown hotels in areas such as Silom and Wireless roads.

Prime Minister Thaksin said the transport service to the new airport is not aimed to reap benefit, but to promote the kingdom globally.

Bus access and seating is also modified to facilitate passengers with disabilities, according to the Thai leader.


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Posted on: 10:35 pm on July 28, 2006
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Saturday 29 July 2006 :-

Travel agents among sceptics
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Local travel agents have joined the sceptics who believe Suvarnabhumi International Airport will not be ready for its scheduled official opening on Sept 28. The airport's readiness to accommodate travellers in large numbers remains very much in doubt, according to the Association of Thai Travel Agents (ATTA).

''Facilities for inbound and outbound tourists such as airport ground services, ATTA's counter services for tourist arrivals, and the parking area, are not yet completed, despite the fact that such facilities are very important because they represent the national image,'' ATTA president Apichart Sankary said yesterday.

Half of the tourists who visit Thailand are customers of ATTA members.

According to Mr Apichart, Airports of Thailand Plc (AoT) had directed the association to develop counter services for arriving passengers on the third floor of the airport, despite the fact that the third floor area was not considered an appropriate area by the association.

He said ATTA had presented a much more appropriate proposal for first-floor space to AoT but had not yet received any response.

Mr Apichart suggested that the government should revise the airport's space allocation, a major concern for all operators. The association has invited AoT to explain various issues to 1,300 ATTA members on Aug 8.

Tour East Co managing director Prasert Aswapornchai said several airlines had also expressed concerns about the airport's readiness.

Mr Prasert also voiced a concern about the relatively high cost of using services at the new airport which worked out at around 65 baht per tourist compared with 8-10 baht currently at Don Muang airport.

He urged the authorities in charge of the airport to reconsider the issues, because high costs would directly affect both business operators and tourists.


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Posted on: 10:56 pm on July 28, 2006
PussyLover 69
Report from Bangkok Post dated Saturday 29 July 2006 :-

All systems go for historic Suvarnabhumi flights today : Thaksin to touch down at 8:09 am
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All systems are go for the first commercial flights by six airlines at Suvarnabhumi International Airport today, the president of Airports of Thailand Plc (AoT) said yesterday. ''The airport is 100% ready for these historic flights,'' said Chotisak Asapaviriya, who has stayed at the airport for the past few nights to ensure its readiness.

Thai Airways International (THAI), Bangkok Airways, Thai AirAsia, One-Two-Go Airlines, Nok Air and PB Air will stage 20 flights in and out of the 125-billion-baht facility today.

The first and the largest airplane to touch down will be a THAI Boeing 747-400 jumbo jet with caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and cabinet members on board at 8.09 am.

The paid-for flight, TG 1881 with 375 passengers, is due to take off from Bangkok International Airport (Don Muang) at 7:45 am for the 24-minute trip.

By becoming a passenger himself, Mr Thaksin will personally see if the airport is up to scratch on arrival and departure.

He is due to fly back from Suvarnabhumi to Don Muang on flight TG 4555 at 11:19 am, according to officials.

Other flights will be taking off and landing throughout the day from Chiang Mai, Lampang, Udon Thani, Nakhon Phanom, Trat, Samui, Hat Yai, Phuket and Narathiwat.

Most of the aircraft will be Boeing 737s and Airbus A320s, capable of carrying 145 to 160 passengers each. The smallest plane is a narrow-bodied Brazilian-made Embraer 145 LR from PB Air, with 50 passengers.

Mr Chotisak said most of the 4,834 seats had already been booked.

All the navigation control systems, air and ground handling support and passenger service facilities such as restaurants and duty-free shops, and city-bound buses were in place, he said.

The Department of Civil Aviation has issued an interim operating licence for Suvarnabhumi in line with the operating and safety standards set by the International Civil Aviation Organisation.

The airport's operation was covered by a policy from Dhipaya Insurance, ''so there should be not any doubts in the public's minds that the airport is not ready or is unsafe,'' Mr Chotisak said.

Charuek Kungwanphanich, the managing director of SET-listed Dhipaya, said the industrial all-risks policy covered a sum insured worth 42 billion baht, and personal liability for third parties worth US$200 million per accident.

Given the high risk and relatively large amount, Mr Charuek said the company had sought reinsurance cover from both local and international companies.

Mr Chotisak's assurances came as aviation experts questioned the usefulness of today's flights as a gauge of readiness, since they were limited in number and all domestic.

''If you want to test something, you have to take it to its limits, not just a small fraction,'' said one industry executive, who asked not to be named.

Suvarnabhumi airport was designed to handle 45 million passengers a year, or about 125,000 a day, and 76 flights per hour.

''It is most likely that you will hear politicians and senior AoT officials come out to declare the test an unqualified success. Of course, it would be because the test is only superficial,'' the executive said.

Plagued by construction flaws, delays and corruption allegations, Suvarnabhumi missed its Sept 29, 2005 opening deadline, which was rescheduled to June and then to Sept 28 this year.

Symbolic first test flights involving two Thai Airways aircraft were held on Sept 29 last year.

Aviation groups, such as the International Air Transport Association and the Board of Airline Representatives in Thailand, remain sceptical about the new opening date, warning that a premature inauguration would cause embarassment to the country.

Cathay Pacific chief operating officer Antony Tyler was among those advocating a prudent approach.

''Often it is not what we see that matters, but it is more about systems _ the computers, IT and baggage systems. What you see is not always the most important thing,'' he said earlier this month.

Mr Tyler said Thailand should avoid making the same mistake as Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur, which opened their new airports early.

But Mr Chotisak yesterday expressed confidence that a Sept 28 opening was realistic and achievable.

Meanwhile, THAI, Thai AirAsia and Bangkok Airways have initially agreed to make their first international test flights in and out of Suvarnabhumi on Sept 1, according to Mr Chotisak.


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Posted on: 11:04 pm on July 28, 2006
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Report from Bangkok Post dated Wednesday 2 August 2006 :-

Airports official blasts IATA 'conspiracy'
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A top executive of the Airports of Thailand Plc (AOT) has lashed out at the International Air Transport Association (IATA) spokesman for his comment on the readiness of Suvarnabhumi Airport, saying the comment was biased - and contained a hidden agenda.

AOT President Chotisak Asapaviriya added that the comment was aimed at tarnishing the reputation of Suvarnabhumi.

Albert Tjoeng, IATA spokesman in Singapore, earlier expressed skepticism that the $3.7-billion Suvarnabhumi Airport would be ready for the launch on September 28.

Indicating that it was normal to conduct test flights before the official opening, the IATA spokesman said however that the trial did not test the airport's ability to handle heavy traffic. IATA currently represents 250 airlines.

Mr.Tjoeng's negative comment, Mr. Chotisak said, may be related to the fierce competition in the aviation business now that many countries wanted to be the aviation hub.

Mr. Chotisak said AOT, being responsible for the operations of Suvarnabhumi Airport, has to do its best to ensure the airport's smooth operations.

“Mr. Tjoeng was once a senior executive of Singapore’s Changi International Airport. His comment may not be neutral,” he said.

Six Thai airlines--Thai Airways International, Bangkok Airways, Thai AirAsia, Orient Thai Airways, Nok Air, Phuket Air-- made 24 trial flights to and from Suvarnabhumi Airport last Saturday.

The airport is expected to replace the overcrowded Don Muang Airport and accommodate up to 45 million passengers a year.


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