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Skip
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Dave agreed! I'm a sucker for falling in love but thankfully I was forewarned by the forum and kept moving on. That was, until the last night, 'she' might just snare me yet when I return.
I've got a new morning ritual now: calendaring and coffee.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:50 pm on Oct. 20, 2002
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bkkz
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Skip, the simplest solution I can think of is this, make a shit load of cash, so that you don't have to work or go back home, and just stay in LOS. I didn't have that choice, so I took the other option, just come here and find a job that pays less than 20% of what I used to get and live here. It was hard at first, but I never regretted it. LOS is definitely a worthwhile sacrifice. 
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 1:50 pm on Oct. 20, 2002
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snowbird
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Hi Skip -
Jeez, I feel for ya, I really do. However, things could be worse - I've got about 110 days to wait until my next trip, which will make a grand total of eleven MONTHS since the last!! And yes, I still think of the damned place and its gorgeous little female inhabitants every day.
Hoping the next couple of months go quickly for both of us...
cheers
snowbird
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:24 pm on Oct. 20, 2002
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Tyler Durdin
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Skip: I read up on your Post-BKK Blues and let me tell you...First, it is absolutely normal and Second, it never goes away. I go through it every time I get back from BKK and there is no way to stop it. You have such a good time that when you return home, you feel "homesick" for the place even though you are now "home". The following is just my take on things, you may choose to agree or think I am nuts, "up to you..."
I made my 1st trip to Thailand in 2000 but didnt go nuts in the nightlife and so only missed it a little, then in 2001, I did some research (discovered the forum) and armed myself to the teeth with info. After that, I went nuts! I ran around so much, hooked up with so many girls, and partied so hard (I got sick 2x on 1 trip!!!) that when I left, I was SO hurting. It was like trying to stop a runaway freight train in about 5 ft of space, just a complete halt to everything that had happened.
All I could do was think of BKK, the girls and the good times I had. It was impossible to take my mind off it, I had literally been a Rock-Star for 2 weeks, adored, loved, wanted, desired by beautiful, delicate women who catered to my every desire. How could I not get carried away by that fantasy? But thats what it is, it's a Fantasy, it's not Reality (for me at least). Reality to me is work (10 hrs a day), rent, mortgage payments, things to fix around the house, errands to run, etc. Fantasy is not working, beautiful girls willing to sleep with me, ridiculously cheap cost of living, partying every night, having to "cheat" and lie to beautiful women to be able to sleep with even more beautiful women (like I said, Fantasy).
We all fantasize about how great it would be to live in BKK, but you have to realize if you actually lived there, it would become our Reality, and the mundane life we have in our current lives would exist even in BKK because everyday things (that make up our Reality) would now exist in BKK. The girl scene would quickly become old (hard to believe but true) and everything would normalize again. If you look at the faces of the local people in BKK (not the tourists like myself that run around with a permanent smile on our faces), but those on the streets, on the BTS, working in the dept stores, etc, you will notice that they are the same faces you see in your home dept stores, on the buses you ride, walking by you on the streets, the same bored, preoccupied faces of people who have lives to live. This is because BKK is their Reality, and I want to scream at them "You are so lucky! You are living in BKK!" but of course it won't make any sense to them. If you lived there, you too would become one of those faces.
I live in HI and I see the toursist running around, having fun, hooking up, etc and for them, this is their "Bangkok", whereas for me, it is my Reality. My friends who visit me, listen to me complain about my job and my life (just like anybody else anywhere in the world) and think I am nuts, they think my life is perfect because I live in HI. What they fail to realize is that I live in MY Reality, not in THEIR Fantasy.
Once you can realize this about BKK, it makes it a little easier. You take BKK for what it's worth but you don't lose sight of Reality. You still think of the good times, the friends you make, and the girls but you also get back to your life. Your life existed before you discovered BKK, and without you BKK still moves on, its up to you to do the same. Yes, a return trip helps, yes, it keeps your mind off things, and yes, it's good to have something to look forward to but don't get so focused on it that you miss out on your life back home. Don't get so focused that you don't get to appreciate things that make your Reality work for you.
I had a friend that had so much fun in the Philipines (PI) that all he talked about was the PI. Whenever I wanted to go out, all I heard was how the club didnt compare to the PI. Whenever I pointed out a cutie, all I heard was how in the PI the girls were better. Whenever we ate out, all I heard was how everything was cheaper in the PI, etc. In fact, he was so cynical about his Reality, and so focused on the PI that he missed countless opportunities at home for promotion, girls that were interested in him, and real estate deals. I hope that when he finally gets to his Utopia, it is everything he wanted and works out for him. What I am afraid of is that it isnt what he wanted and he will have wasted 3 yrs of his life getting to that point.
I don't know if I have answered your question or not. In a very long winded way, what I am saying is to enjoy life everyday no matter where you are. Enjoy the moment for what it is, no matter where you are. Now, I enjoy things at home when I am there and when I am in BKK, I enjoy things there. It doesn't make things any easier when you return home but at least it helps you to cope. Just don't obsess about it because it doesn't make things move any faster. Keep doing what you do and enjoy things for what they are.
Peace out!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:04 pm on Oct. 20, 2002
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Ballsburstin
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Tyler,
Was going to add to your post, but I think you've summed up my thoughts too. In fact, was feeling O.K. in my current reality (thinking about the lousy job market and coming up with a plan), when the phone rang this evening. Guess who? My TGF, upcountry visiting her family. Tomorrow's her birthday, and she was bummed that she's getting old (geez, 24 sure is ancient). So she wanted to talk to someone who gave a rat's ass, I guess. Well, when I heard her voice on the phone, it was like that scene in "Somewhere In Time" where Christopher Reeves pulls the penny out of his pocket and he is jerked back to the present. Except in this case, I was jerked back to LOS. So you're right, it never goes away, and strangely, whenever I get off the plane in BKK, it feels like "home."
I guess I've got a bad case ... I often find myself missing the green waves of the rice fields and the tuk-tuk-tuk of the tractors as they wake you up in the dawn hours of her home town.
But your comments are spot on ... if you can't live in your current reality, even with the Siren song of an occasional phone call and e-mail, you will be very unhappy indeed.
- Balls
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:54 am on Oct. 21, 2002
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Skip
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Thanks to all the brothers who posted here. All of you are right in so many respects, and candid, in sharing your feelings and I truly appreciate that candor and sincerity. I started this thread just to attempt to ruminate on the ‘how’ my trip to LOS affected me. If anything the trip to LOS has been breathtaking in the subtlety with which I was smitten and the new reality I’ve come to grips with having returned. It’s funny too Tyler Durdin, for I, like you, prior to my getting my ticket had really no intent to jump into ‘the scene’ and only stumbled upon the forum by chance as well. More funny still, I remember a year prior to that when I stumbled upon some press about the ‘abhorrent sex tourists’ with which Bangkok is stigmatized by, and how loath it is to the respectable tourism industry of Thailand. I was reading along looking down my upturned nose like the author intended and bought his crock lock stock and barrel. But with the forums discovery there was another perception that didn’t seem as if it could be real. Now I know otherwise. Now I know a reality that shatters fantasies. Now the lines that were are mere illusion. And what’s more, what I experienced was an instantaneous intimacy that can’t, in rational western minds anyway, be equated with prostitution, and therefore isn’t. Yet it WAS. And, I just lived it, paid the GFE, woke up and went to bed smiling, and still smile in the oddest places now, and yes, pinch myself too thank you very much. Tyler passed it on, I saved it, here it is again more apt than ever because once you’ve been there, well then you know too: "Bangkok will easily eat you alive, but at night, in your bed, you'll slide down its gullet smiling". And indeed truer words HAVE never been said!
Everyone talks of keeping it on the safe side, don’t fall in love brother! Pay your dues and get out. Don’t let the girls get to your heart. When in fact something else got to my heart but what that was specifically I can’t quite get a diagnosis on. LOS is a disease of affliction. Was it LOS, lifestyle, culture, ladies, or some combination? I think it’s another reality I’ve been smitten by which recalls to my mind the poetry of Mexico’s Octavio Paz. I can’t put these feelings into words anymore than we can nail down the LOS experience, but perhaps Paz will take us nearer to there.
~ Beyond Love ~
Everything threatens us;
time, that in living fragments severs
what I have been
from what I will become,
as the machete splits the snake;
awareness, transparency pierced through,
the look blinded by seeing itself looking;
words, grey gloves, mental dust on the grass,
water, skin;
our names, risen up between yourself and me,
walls of emptiness no trumpet can shout down.
Not dream, peopled with broken images,
nor delirium and its prophetic foam,
no, nor love with its teeth and claws, are enough.
Beyond ourselves,
On the frontier of being and becoming,
A life more alive claims us.
Outside, night breathes, and stretches,
full of its great warm leaves,
a war of mirrors:
fruit, talons, eyes, leafage,
backs that glisten,
bodies that make their way through other bodies.
~ Octavio Paz ~
As for me, Skip came out of retirement in LOS and revelled in the glory and magnificence of vibrant young "bodies that make their way through other bodies." Delightfully so and so delightful it was I can never be the same again.
So, with Tyler’s kind admonition I’ll carry on along the razor’s edge of living a life made more alive, more vibrant and yet more mundane as well, and all for the simple coming ‘to be’ in the LOS scene I discovered. Which not only created a greater sense of ‘being’, but both forebodes and is, always a ‘becoming’ for us travelers to LOS who are trapped now, in between the two realities of both being there, in a kindred sense, and yet trying to be in our present ‘here and nows’ rather than our ‘there and thens’ which only serve to distract us further. It’s a wicked bitter-sweet feeling indeed.
And now it’s my turn to bid the brothers farewall for the night as I “slide down its gullet smiling.” Thanks to all.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:08 am on Oct. 21, 2002
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kmanrox
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You all bring up very good points... As i've said before I cam here to discover, not bang chicks every night of the week and become an alcoholic.... I'm here for exploration, change of pace, and for business, just on an indefinite basis.... Yes, it is a perk that I can go get a 20$ goddess, or two, or three, or ten every night I feel like, but if you have the discipline to seperate business from pleasure, everything will be OK...
I miss certain things about the USA, and I am sure the buzz of the gogo bars and MPs will wear off over time, just as Disney World did when I lived in FL.... Either way I love this place, so much diversity, for such a great price... So many things to do recreationally as well as culturally... I've met more genuine friends here in LOS over the 3 weeks I've been here than I would in a year in the USA....
This post LOS Blues can be applied to anything relative in life.... If you 'vacation' anywhere, you have some degree of the 'blues' when you are back to reality, I don't care where you live or where you vacationed... LOS is no different... I would only venture to say that LOS post vacation blues affects those the most that don't have the time, or 'game' in their own countries to pull in women. In LOS this is not necessary, so it would strike them harder.. ( I admit, I have no game or time in my country, which is one reason why LOS is desirable, but being in the porn biz, i've had my share, so I am considerably content ) ...
Either way, everyone needs a paradise to vacation, and for most PPL who have been to LOS, this is definitely Paradise on Earth, for whatever the reason....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:20 am on Oct. 21, 2002
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oldhand
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God, I hope I donot have to go back to reality,
no more lunchtime trips to the MP's, a sure 100%
jump any night of the week without all the bullshit,
drinks, movies shopping at western prices. BK has it
in one most of us long term residents are prepared to
sacrifice a little but not many of us want to get back
to your guys reality!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:43 am on Oct. 21, 2002
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Skip
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Kman, I've been meaning to ask you. How's that business plan coming? 
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:53 am on Oct. 21, 2002
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JackRabbit
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JackRabbit present...
BK , please define amount of money, what you consider "shit load of money" that is big enough to make the jump.
JR
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:55 am on Oct. 22, 2002
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