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pinga
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CJ, well the things are a bit clearer now. I have a personal opinion on your informative posts. That's a good one. But I have the worst impression on your way to treat the people who does not think like you.
Anyhow, things are cool down already. The thread is going on well and maybe a couple of remarks, just to focus on the thread started with the sad experience of a relative from pbd714:
1. All the MP girls have a log book. The book shows the stamps of every single successful test they got. Once they got an un-successful one they go somewhere else. Couldn't work at the MP anymore so, they become freelancers or work in a Bar. To do so, they have to fake the stamps and that's the underground policy aplicable in many B-bars. Many of the so called clinics (not all) raised up because of the available market....
2. I don't have a Thai wife who can tell me many stories and valuable experiences. I learned all of this info by walking on the streets and talking and sleeping with different girls. Also I have been dating with few working girls from different MPs acting as a "boyfriend" of them having a huge SANUK time. Thus, my opinion is based on my personal experience and may not be 100% accurate !!?? Ah! I don't have 15 years living here and I cannot speak fluent Thai like you or the brother ThaiprivateEYE. I have been here only 4 wonderful years and two of them I studied in a multicultural academic institute where I made a priceless cross-cultural experience.
3. HIV test can be carried on with a HIV test kit and does not necessarily required a Lab for the final result. I tried this kit when I was studying here for two years at the Institute's Clinic. Everybody had to do one each year. The result, if possitive, demands you to take "Western Block" test to confirm the result. Well, here in Bangkok labs are required to do it upon request and payment from the CLICNIC/Hospital. Dunno if the Clinic?? does it before giving the stamp to the TG. The girls usually pay 400-500/test....ask Oil, Saeng, Tom, Som (Barons) for instance. I did. Ask other girls from Beer Bars and the answers will be impressive.
The Christian Hospital (SILOM) charges me B/.1.100 for an STD test included Syphilys, HIV and others.....I take this one each 6 months. Thanks God everything clean so far.
4. Freelancers are that...FREELANCERS. Don't give any good reliability to their book, if any, as they can easily get the stamp somewhere else....Where? ....just ask them.
5. FLAMES. better think twice before yelling to another brother. You were about to blew up the things in this thread as you did once with JJ and recently with the Isareli brother in the other thread concerning the robbery in Pattaya. Please, read your posts and try to think about it.
I am not the one who has to tell you how to behave in the forum. We have here a Jedi Master who built up this marvelous VIRTUAL GATE to LOS and he is the Boss. However, I really feel annoyed with the way some threads are being approached. Sorry to say so CJ....and yes, I am not speaking on behalf of anyone. THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
CJ, keep cool, that's all. If you don't like a silly post, another guy will do the job of answering....take it easy and try to attend the next RT, we can share experiences in a constructive way. CHEERS!!!!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:29 am on Sep. 4, 2002
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MrJoe
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chateau,
Once again, you are spot on, but I think we are talking about two different things (my fault). You are clearly right about balance. I should have pointed out more clearly that objectivity is what I strive for and I do think it has it's place alonside opinion. Without it we stand a good chance that we are not accurate in our perspectives.
In any case, I surrender!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:31 am on Sep. 4, 2002
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chateaujade
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pinga, do you truly think I was the one in the wrong with regard to rami and kojak?
Rami called me a racist. An Israeli calling anyone a racist is truly the pot calling the kettle black.
Kojak posted physical threats against me twice. For speaking the truth about what IDF did to a USN NSA ship in '67. So see the website. It so happens I had friends who were killed on that ship. Kojak says "everyone knows it was an accident" Well, no, that's not true. The crew's surviving members and their families don't know that and neither does the US Department of Defense or the US intelligence community. In fact they know quite the opposite.
One wonders whether the British have forgotten the bombing of the King David Hotel, or maybe Kojak reckons that was an accident too? Hmm? That was in 47 when the Irgun and the Stern Gang and so on were called Terrorists.
The more things change the more things stay the same.
I used to believe in the Israelis, I was brainwashed by Hollywood, films like EXODUS and so on, but, they are no longer the heroic underdogs. Gradually over the last 30-40 years they have evolved into brutish oppressive murdering storm troopers. I am no fan of the Palestinians, but, the Israelis are now an embarassment to themselves and to my country, the USA, which finances them. They are most definitely complicating the already arduous task of hunting down al Qaeda, which task of its total destruction I 100% support, why won't the Israelis listen to Washington and the world and ease up a little so the USA can get the job done against alQaeda for the same of all of us everywhere?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:51 am on Sep. 4, 2002
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nokna
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i may be wrong,but is'nt this thread about HIV/AIDS?.
for what's worth,i've been with 4 different girls when they went for their tests at the main hospital in phuket.
[where,i,myself was treated] and they had vaginal swabs and a blood test.
wether these tests are for real or not,i don't know.
but the girls are happy.
some people are so paranoid about the girls having some sort of disease,but don't think any of the men[or themselves] could be a carrier.
all i know is i am tested every 3 months,due to my work[i am clean] and that i have never asked a girl for her medical book,they have always offered to show it to me.
honesty on their part i think.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:06 am on Sep. 4, 2002
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Tyler Durdin
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Nokna: You are right, this is a thread on HIV/AIDS and also about PBD714's unfortunate story of his younger brother, we really shouldn't be getting off on a tangent.
PBD714, that is indeed a sad story and I hope that your brother's death wont be in vain but will serve to save someone else's life down the line.
PBD - send me an email, wanted to catch up with you after our last meeting in BKK.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:42 pm on Sep. 4, 2002
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One Eyed Jack
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pinga..... good posts. So what do you think about the balance of safety between freelancers and MP's. On the one hand, freelancers give you a much more 'real' experience and can be a great experience... but without reliable checks might pose a 'slightly' higher risk than MP's. When I say 'slightly', I suspect that statistically the chances only rise very slightly assuming proper use of a condom. As for me, I'm always very careful and actually like the MP environment sometimes for that reason. For example, after finishing I always immediate (within seconds) wash down and even wash everything with alcohol hand wash(I carry it with me). Also, never let her hands touch me unless I've seen them washed and sterilized before. You know, her finger might have been up her pussy and then on the tip of my dick before putting the shield on! Other things like checking the rain coat every couple of minutes....Etc. etc. Some girls don't like it so much and I try to be discrete about it... but safety first. Now for freelancers, everything is a bit more loose. You know, when your lying in bed between sessions and all of a sudden she rolls on top of you and you feel wet near the little brother. Anyway, things like that happen and because of the more 'real' type experience, maybe safety is relaxed a bit. For me, when that happens I jump out of bed instantly and wash down. OK, over reacting but shit...
Guess the point is that the MP's while often lacking in personal service, provide perhaps a bit more security in their testing and an environment that is more 'sterile'. By sterile, I mean taking the cautions above is assumed and encouraged.
In the end, I guess it probably doesn't matter much as long as you take the proper precautions..... right pinga?
thoughts?
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:53 pm on Sep. 4, 2002
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pinga
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OEJ, well, I think nobody is a Doctor to recommend on the "best" way to handle our own safety but, at least, I am glad that most of us use to take different and discrete measures during the intercourse with our babies....You are not alone doing so OEJ, I follow my own procedure as well....wash myself right after my cums....use my towel (from the fitness club), some alcohol (the blue color ones available in Thailand) 70% concentrated, use always JACUTIN gel (B/.120) to prevent possible "TUMS" and put on and off the condom MYSELF. Nothing to insult the baby, only being discrete during the process. I apply this process either with a gril from any MP/BG/GG........
My personal experience comes from different places I have tried. Thus, you may disagree.
Certainly, at an MP seems to be that the blood-checks should be run by a Hospital e.g. ChaopPhraya for the "J1" girls. That does give you a bit of relief thinking that the girls are there because they are clean......so far. However, we should understand that HIV use to be detected only after 40 days (and even longer) after the infection.......Thus, we can have a nice time rolling our busty TG and she might be spoiled already as she might be infected right after her final check....yep! sometimes shit happens........
Different story with a Bar girl. I think they are less safe than a girl at the MP in terms of "trustable" log books. However, in essence ALL are the same. However, I could realise that also B-girls are really concerned about their own security and do request the rain coat all the times. Trusting their log-books is entirely up to us.
However, in terms of service I disagree a bit with your comment. I have learned (and spent) time and money getting few crappy services from girls at MPs coz of bad selection process. In that way a service from a Bar Girl is much better as you have a chance to interact with her for several minutes and see if there is a CLICK with her. Once done, you normally get a nice service. At an MP such approach is not possible and you get sometimes not a good Bang.
Recommendation: TAKE ALWAYS YOUR TIME before selecting a TG at an MP. ONE always will catch your attention but YOU are there for a SERVICE so, try not to pick up the girl you die for, try the one that seems to like you more.....remember Porn? Well, use the same approach, take your time. Yeah, I know. How the hell we can do that with a f***ing glass in between? Well, take a beer, nobody is in a hurry. Dress well and glance the girls with a courious sight. Don't show yourself as a gangster or like a couple of Japanese/Chinese (sorry guys, nothing personal) I saw several times pointing out this and that girl and finally selecting another....like in TOPS/7-11/BIG C when you are not sure among AMSTEL, KLOSTER and finally you take HEINEKKEN but you know you will try SINGHA BEER anyway.....this approach in most of the cases will not lead you to a nice experience.
Darlings offers a nice Bang and the girls are of good quality. Rooms are Ok as well. Maybe the time you are here we can roll on a couple of babies and explore some MPs, if you wish. See ya!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:33 pm on Sep. 4, 2002
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MrJoe
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(APOLOGIES FOR OFF THREAD)
pinga,
I can really relate to your comment about the coveted (and for me essential) CLICK. This why when I was looking for a good time I always wound up at a go go. I tend to want it all; Good looks AND the CLICK.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:55 pm on Sep. 4, 2002
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pbd714
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It is amazing just how far off people can go when they want to avoid the subject at hand.
Thanks to all of those brothers who offered their condolences. As some of you have met me and see that I live life to the fullest extent, I also HOPE that it helps to know that you now have a personal connection to a tragedy that could of been avoided just by using a condom. If you liked meeting me, you would have loved my brother!!
NOW let me share some more views on this HIV/AIDS issue. ON this last trip to LOS I asked this girl in Phuket why she did not insist that I use a condom, you know that precarious moment as you are just being an animal and all you want to do is start banging, then you realize HOLD ON STRYKER... GET YOUR RAIN GEAR ON _ POSSIBLE STORM WARNINGS AHEAD!! LOL well this girl did not even act like she cared about the condom, so I asked her later (I stopped to put on my condom but stopping for a lenghty conversation was out of the question) So in the morning I asked her why she acted as if she did not care... her answered ruined my day. She says AIDS is nothing, it is all in your mind, i have many friends who have aids and they don't have problem, SHIT, you have to have strong mind to have strong body!!! i just had sex with this girl, even with the rain coat on, i was like sick in my stomach all day, now I don't propose that all TG's are this hard, I knew this was a hard one but she was so hot I had to have her, but it just goes to show you that there are some with this type perception about AIDS.
TYLER- pbd714@hotmail.com
I sent you messages, did you receive them? pinga- I also sent you message, remember we talked about it on my last visit but I guess you did not receive them either. We can check with the Jedi Master on this one.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:09 am on Sep. 6, 2002
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