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Jafa

Quote: from Isee on 10:07 am on Aug. 4, 2004

Quote: from y____ on 9:35 pm on Aug. 3, 2004

Right from the beginning caronte already said it's not about the 'measly 20k' as you want to call it.

It's about the principle.



Lawyers LOVE to hear those four word's "It's about the principal". When there is any arguments about their fees, this will be thrown back at them.

At the end of the day, even "the principal" has a monetary value....




y____ wrote 'principle', NOT 'principal'.
If you were punning, then 'principal' does have a 'monetary value', as in:

adj.
-Of, relating to, or being financial principal, or a principal in a financial transaction.

n.
-The capital or main body of an estate or financial holding as distinguished from the interest or revenue from it.
-A sum of money owed as a debt, upon which interest is calculated.

But what caronte implied and y____ meant was 'principle', and one or more of the following applies:

n.
-A basic truth, law, or assumption: the principles of democracy.
-A rule or standard, especially of good behavior: a man of principle.
- The collectivity of moral or ethical standards or judgments: a decision based on principle rather than expediency.
-A fixed or predetermined policy or mode of action.
-A basic or essential quality or element determining intrinsic nature or characteristic behavior: the principle of self-preservation.

Ultimately what y____ was referring to was that it doesn't matter how much caronte or anyone else was scammed - the intention on the part of the perp was there, no matter how much it was or whether the currency was in $US, pounds sterling, Euros, or Thai Baht.


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Posted on: 11:35 pm on Aug. 3, 2004
Manuel bkk

Quote: from Manuel bkk on 11:28 am on Aug. 2, 2004
Much more info is needed for any of us to make a judgement of your predicament.
In my opinion this should not be discussed on the forum as any advise might be very much distorted because lack of facts.
Personal relations might exist between many forum members. Business relations are not being promoted in any way. In my opinion the forum is a place for personal introduction. If one wishes to extend that to business relations that should be set aside of the forum.
I think you are not helping yourself with this publication. My advise is to remove it.....


This was my first and only reaction to the predicament of Caronte. Eventhough I might feel for him and others, I still stand by my earlier point of view.

I do not quote this to be bullied about this, just in the hope that exchanges like this are a past for BTF.


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Posted on: 12:37 am on Aug. 6, 2004
bkkz
"Why remove the 'Does scamming really and always pay???' thread? There wasn't any real names divulged. What a shame."

Unfortunately, some real information (i.e. company name) was mentioned, and that brought out more revealing things. Anyway, most of the stories in that thread, are 2nd or 3rd hand stories, how first hand experiences of scammer2? What was your experience? See this example in the Z.

http://www.bkk-tonite.com/cgi-bin/zforum/topic.cgi?forum=11&topic=2


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Posted on: 12:55 am on Aug. 6, 2004
bkkz
If you want scammer #2, start on him. Write your own experience (s), not others. First hand experiences.

I was not diverting you to the Z, just showing you this example.

"Any idiot who knows how to search domain name"... for some reason, there are not that many.


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Posted on: 1:18 am on Aug. 6, 2004
ThaidUp

Quote: from bkkz on 1:18 pm on Aug. 6, 2004
"Any idiot who knows how to search domain name"... for some reason, there are not that many.




I disagree there is ample supply of both idiots and domain names


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Posted on: 1:26 am on Aug. 6, 2004
bkkz

Quote: from ThaidUp on 1:26 pm on Aug. 6, 2004

Quote: from bkkz on 1:18 pm on Aug. 6, 2004
"Any idiot who knows how to search domain name"... for some reason, there are not that many.



I disagree there is ample supply of both idiots and domain names
The key phrase here is Any idiot who knows how to search domain name.


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Posted on: 1:36 am on Aug. 6, 2004
bkkz

Quote: from y____ on 2:24 pm on Aug. 6, 2004

Quote: from bkkz on 2:18 pm on Aug. 6, 2004
If you want scammer #2, start on him. Write your own experience (s), not others. First hand experiences.


Ok I get it. So that means 2nd person information from private detectives are deemed with no credibility? With all due respect. Maybe PIs like thaiprivateye would go out of business very soon if that's the case. Sheesh I'll feedback to my Issarn boys about this. Maybe they should change their line and setup foodcarts or websites to scam people.
What about your experience? Weren't you one of his victims? You could start one, and perhaps others who have been scammed by this same person will come up with their own stories.


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Posted on: 4:52 am on Aug. 6, 2004
MaximusNaughtinus
Seeing as the other thread is now deleted. I would also just like to say again I was sorry for posting the company name, as I mentioned, I did not intend for that info to be released because I had posted it, my ignorance. Smegs, if anyone came to your front door and left brown sh_t filled burning paper bags and you stomped them out and got sh_t all over your boots, I am sorry. I will provide a free boot polishing at Big Dogs if you like.

Well, I just want to say, that I think Smegma is not a scammer and definitely not deserving of the scammer#1 tag. However, I think that he did not help things the way he procured business with his partner. He also did not help things at all with his non response and typical roundabout way of trying to deal with things. I was shown several emails from him to Caronte while he was overseas, he, right from the very beginning, did not seem to want to help and pass blame onto caronte.

I think Smegma is an honest person, I think he does not deserve to be branded a thief, scoundrel or scammer, as he did not seem to be the main perpetrator in any of this, but guilt through slight involvement and association, certainly.

As for the other stories, these involve a few other members who have been invited to comment directly, but seem unwilling, so that ends that. What surprised me most about the other little indiscretions were the small amounts and to the friends they were done to. If someone is going through a rough trot, fair enough, but no reason to do something no matter how small to friends and associates. Maybe it is just a hobby.


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Posted on: 6:01 am on Aug. 6, 2004
LocalYokul

wow MN,

you sure are knowledgable, and apologetic, after having been a member since only April 4th...

but, someone did post their 1st hand experiences, just didn't label the perpetrator, but who couldn't guess the right answer..??


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Posted on: 6:10 am on Aug. 6, 2004
MaximusNaughtinus
someone asked me to post that for em, I forgot to put in the clause 'posted for and on behalf of' etc and being so new, I dont know how to or if you even can edit a post once posted.


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Posted on: 6:15 am on Aug. 6, 2004
     

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