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Watana's beggar plan decried
Wants vocational students to `wipe them out'
By Pradit Ruangdit & Nattaya Chetchotiros
Rights activists have cautioned Social Development and Human Security Minister Watana Muangsook against using rogue vocational students to ``clean the streets'' of beggars and homeless people. Senator and child rights advocate Montri Sinthawichai said yesterday it was wrong to hand the power to youngsters prone to aggressiveness. He suggested that Mr Watana use them in ways that could ``soften'' their hearts.
``It can be any kind of social service that has nothing to do with wielding power,'' Mr Montri said.
The senator expressed indignation at Mr Watana's announcement that he would ``wipe out'' the homeless, beggars and vendors from the streets.
``The word `wipe out' should not be used with those people. They are human beings and have dignity like the rest of us,'' he said.
Mr Montri said Mr Watana's idea of turning problem teens into social guards reflected his lack of understanding about social problems and the right way to solve them.
Jaran Ditapichai, a member of the National Human Rights Commission, said he understood Mr Watana meant well but that in tackling social difficulties ministers must be careful not to aggravate the situation.
Mr Jaran said several ministers now think and act fast like Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
``Be careful, acting without thinking things through can hurt society even more,'' he said.
The rights commissioner said Mr Watana must be able to guarantee that those ``social guards'' would respect the dignity of beggars and never use violence in dealing with them.
Suvit Watnoo, a member of the Housing Development Foundation, said it was good that Mr Watana wanted to get misfits to serve communities but said they should not be used to catch beggars. ``That is not the right job for these hot-blooded students. They should be made to build or repair houses instead,'' Mr Suvit said.
He said students themselves should be given a say in what they wanted to do.
Mr Watana said recruitment of wayward students as social guards should help solve brawling and racing problems.
``I want these youngsters to compete in doing good deeds, to help society and to guard our homes,'' he said.
The minister said he planned to send student volunteers to all 50 Bangkok districts and teams which do well might be given rewards.
The students would be paid allowances and get their own uniforms. They would be trained in peace-keeping, safety protection, self-defence and given some legal knowledge.
Mr Watana said they might be appointed assistants of police officers attached to the Metropolitan Police Bureau but would not have arrest powers.
The minister said the volunteers would be trained to take beggars to welfare centres, street urchins to schools or welfare homes or back to their families.
Mr Watana said he would ask society what it wanted the government to do with alien beggars.
``Should we keep them here in our country or should we send them back?'' he said.
Mr Watana said he would sound out the opinions of parents and teachers and social activists next week on what else they wanted these students to do.
Mr Watana played down concerns that the students would use violence against beggars, saying they would not work alone but would be part of the police and other welfare groups.
Since becoming the social development minister, Mr Watana has proposed ideas that have drawn criticism, even ridicule, but which have generated public debate as well.
He proposed a street be turned into a race track for young motorcyclists. Recently he announced that the government would act as caretaker for babies of women not ready to be mothers.
What a crazy idea proposed by a senior government minister. What's next "Red Guards" going into night spots? I'm surprised this guy's not fired.
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Posted on: 10:08 pm on Sep. 17, 2005
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stu
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In Pattaya they have citizen police groups who are just supposed to help tourist or report trouble to the police. But now these people have gotten out of controll and think that they are real cops. Many problems on walking street have occured as they have gone after women who are dressed to sexy or people who are drunk but not causing any trouble. Of course Bush wants to close down the p4p in Thailand and holds up on grants and aid to the Kingdom until the Thai gov. shows him they are cleaning up > I pitty the young guys who go there,fall in love with the place and the see it die a quick death
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Posted on: 10:36 pm on Sep. 17, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from stu on 10:04 pm on Sep. 17, 2005
Of course Bush wants to close down the p4p in Thailand and holds up on grants and aid to the Kingdom until the Thai gov. shows him they are cleaning up > I pitty the young guys who go there,fall in love with the place and the see it die a quick death
More lies from Stu. The US (even before Bush) has sought to elimiate under-age P4P, which is some cases is forced prostitutuion or slavery. Do you have a problem with that?
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Posted on: 11:04 pm on Sep. 17, 2005
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expatchuck
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Quote: from stu on 11:04 am on Sep. 18, 2005
Of course Bush wants to close down the p4p in Thailand and holds up on grants and aid to the Kingdom until the Thai gov. shows him they are cleaning up >
Stu, you are so full of it.
Where have you heard this nonsense or is it just something else you are making up as you go along?
Why not make a post that has a just a slight touch of truth in it?
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Posted on: 11:56 pm on Sep. 17, 2005
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stu
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CBS news Sept. 22,2004. U.S troops stationed over seas could face courts - martial for patronizing with prostitutes.
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Posted on: 12:50 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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stu
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EXpat chuck -put up or shut up pove me wrong.Have a nice day
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Posted on: 12:55 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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expatchuck
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Stu:
I am typing this very slowly since I know you don't read very fast and it takes a while to comprehend what you are reading.
Exactly WTF does the UCMJ have to do with your wild-eyed assertion that President Bush wants to close down p4p in Thailand?
Precisely which grants-in-aid have the Bush Administration held up due to alleged p4p in Thailand? Is the State Department threatening to close down our Embassy in BKK due to this alleged problem.
You are going to be very hard pressed to support your position in the ridiculous claim you made previously.
I say again (but perhaps a bit more forcefully), you are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.
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Posted on: 1:09 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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expatchuck
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Quote: from stu on 1:18 pm on Sep. 18, 2005
CBS news Sept. 22,2004. U.S troops stationed over seas could face courts - martial for patronizing with prostitutes.
I just thought I had better quote this in case you realize how silly this post is and you try to remove/change it.
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Posted on: 1:10 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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stu
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To exlax chuck yeah I am just making it up, same thing you said when I blamed bush for New orleans > BUt,hey guess what he must have read my post and thought it was true For no sooner than I made my B.S post than,Bush went on National T.V to say Stu is right and said sorry to the nation> I G.W. Bush take full resposibilty and again Stu thanks for reminding me in your B.S post. The nation is trully in your debt. Next time I will try to get it right, sorry I listened to that Expat or is it Exlax chuck,He is always kissing my ass,think he wants to be my ladyboy
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Posted on: 1:39 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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Tyfon
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Quote: from expatchuck on 1:38 pm on Sep. 18, 2005
Quote: from stu on 1:18 pm on Sep. 18, 2005
CBS news Sept. 22,2004. U.S troops stationed over seas could face courts - martial for patronizing with prostitutes.
I just thought I had better quote this in case you realize how silly this post is and you try to remove/change it.
You got to give him credit for using the correct plural of court-martial - even the BBC can't seem to get their heads around that 
I saw the tourist police volunteers on Walking Street, they didn't seem to do more than sit at their desk and chat. They have appeared now in Patong (August) where they park up on Bangla, but I saw more of them wandering around the bars, same as the USN Shore Patrols. The TPs I don't mind but SPs give me an itch right between my shoulder blades...
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Posted on: 2:20 am on Sep. 18, 2005
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