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LocalYokul
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Quote: from visitingbkk on 6:40 pm on May 5, 2009
most auto-park the heads when idle for a few seconds and generally have a reasonable (not great) impact rating.
yeah, like I said, a nice solid impact & it's toast
Also, like anything, it is not a question of IF if fails, just a matter of WHEN it will. Proper care and feeding, the drives should be good for a few years...
but if it fails unexpectedly & you don't have a backup, bye bye to your data
LY... if you had read the post, I mentioned toasters... I back up, remove the drive and pack it away until I need a new one
that would be the proper way, but not the way most do, LOL
Also, the magnets inside most computer speakers are so weak that unless you take the disc out of the machine, place it inside the speaker cabinet then maybe, just maybe, a few bytes could get garbled.
yeah, I was just being smart-ass, but a speaker is an electromagnet
& I've seen data get wrecked by powerful speakers
one guy left his drive on top of a 901 Bose, TOAST
no Electrical or Electronics background though, so he just didn't know any better
Your changes of HDD corruption are far higher due to power failures than EMF.
yes, a brown-out will do the job too, just pointing out that a Hard Drive is NOT involatile storage
Even DVDs only have a 5-year life expectancy
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Posted on: 9:34 am on May 5, 2009
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 9:34 pm on May 5, 2009
that would be the proper way, but not the way most do, LOL
and most people don't drop their machine on the floor while it is writing data either....
I can appreciate the concern but I think you are seriously overstating the failure case... sure HDD fails... DVDs can be rendered unreadable in < 1 year as well given certain circumstances. With more than 25 years working in the tech field, I can say that 98% of HDD failures I have seen have nothing to do with impact... it is all about plain ol' mechanical failure.
No matter what, shit happens. HDDs are not as unstable as you make it seem... if they were, the companies would be out of business. People just need to be a little smarter about what their options are and be willing to accept the responsibility of data lose.
and mick... glad you get a hard on with hard disks.... just don't cum on the drive or it might crash due to the impact 
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Posted on: 11:16 am on May 5, 2009
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LocalYokul
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been a techie myself since for 20+ years & I've seen plenty of failures due to impact, but that's because of how I've seen Thais handle them duriing assembly & it was also years ago
I've also seen CPUs get fried by ESD from people not wearing their grounding straps
but again that was years ago
on one of my recent 1-year contracts we had to wear smocks in the clean room & ESD resistant shoes
in that environment I wasn't too worried about moving RAM & HDDs around, rubber matted tables & grounding straps all around
but on the same job a Thai technician, who should know better, ruined our iOmega backup drive, 500GB, when she just slopped it into a box to move to the new server, it was completely f***ed
I admit to being a bit paranoid & Old School about drive failure & data loss, but there are plenty of people out there who think that data on a HDD is written & stone & non-volatile, which you & I know is NOT the case
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Posted on: 8:35 pm on May 5, 2009
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 8:35 am on May 6, 2009
I admit to being a bit paranoid & Old School about drive failure & data loss, but there are plenty of people out there who think that data on a HDD is written & stone & non-volatile, which you & I know is NOT the case
Agreed -- which is why I am nearly religious about advising my clients to replace their hard drives every 2 years. *ALL* their hard drives every 2 years.
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Posted on: 12:57 am on May 6, 2009
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LocalYokul
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the performance increase is always noticeable too
I replaced my old 2.5" 80gb SATA drive last year with a 320gb & it made the system so much faster
now I only use the 80gb for emergencies & keep the heavier footprint data on the new 640gb 3.5" external
moving data around on the 640gb is effortless, but any big data move thru the USB cable takes some time
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Posted on: 2:31 am on May 6, 2009
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 2:31 pm on May 6, 2009
moving data around on the 640gb is effortless, but any big data move thru the USB cable takes some time
Bad USB subsystem, even if it claims to be USB 2.0.
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Posted on: 3:19 am on May 6, 2009
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 12:57 pm on May 6, 2009
.... I am nearly religious....
You know that would mean acting following moronic concepts. Do you?
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Posted on: 3:52 am on May 6, 2009
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LocalYokul
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I wouldn't say the USB subsystem is BAD, it's just a noticeable difference between moving data on the disk itself & moving data onto the disk from elsewhere
after all the xfer rate of the disk itself is 3gb/sec wherease USB 2.0 only gives you 480mb/sec
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Posted on: 4:15 am on May 6, 2009
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Skip,
"'Tis a shame, for the past several years I'd bought all my [illicit] Mac software from this shop on 4F at Panthip Plaza. The guys were always very reliable and their quality was top notch. Alas, those days are over now....
Software needed? http://www.utorrent.com download the app
then go all over the net with the http://www.torrentzen.com
to search for the software apps you need
watch for the reliable apps / India coders or the seeds with greatest volume or forum opinions
Movies? http://www.extratorrent.com
Screw DVDs and CDs... get a 32 gig thumb drive storage.... Xvid or Divx movies at 700meg... learn the peer to peer sharing P2P... recoded software app builds work great without the OEM bugs
The Net is huge source or befriend an Apple rep and they may provide you with decent disk imaging if really needed as backups..... Maxell or Verbatem blanks work best for me !...burn errors with cheaper blanks
software versions are always bein fixed recoded changed daily
Costco prices on 1 Tera Passports $150.... Solid State Drives SSDs will be taking over soon !
http://www.intel.com http://www.ocz.com faster read write times with many data / media samplings still pricey though... server markets will start the volume purchasing and installs soon, this may lower prices along with reliabilty testing as well.... smaller SSDs been performing great vs disk based HDs
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Posted on: 5:32 am on May 6, 2009
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tezza
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 2:45 pm on May 5, 2009
maybe you don't understand the mechanics of a Hard Disk Drive, one good bump & they are f***ed
& most people keep electromagnets next to their computer, they are called speakers
All I can say LY, you must work with some pretty stupid technicians if they treat hard drives roughly, or leave them on powerful speakers
And by the way, you don't need "an electronics or electrical" background. How about just reading the manual
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Posted on: 9:44 pm on May 8, 2009
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