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Mr Alan
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Quote: from Smegma on 1:43 am on Mar. 17, 2005
Variable speed AC motors will run fine at 50 or 60. Only difference you could notice is if compared to previous calibration. In other words, the dial will not give you exactly the same speed at the same setting as before.
For most solid state gadgets, frequency of the power source nowadays is irrelevant as they are internally driven by DC (converted from the grid's AC and brought down to the typical 5 v or whatever voltage the circuit runs on).
Alan, I like seeing you lecture about electrical matters. It gives me an idea of how I would likely come accross if I tried to sound all knowledgeable about US law. Hmmm.... maybe I should give it a try just to see how you would reply to me.
I said that a tool with an AC motor designed for 60 Hz would not operated "as designed" if used on 50 Hz. I did not say the motor would not operate. For most people, it is not wise to mess around with electricity, and if the tool/gadget says 120V 60 Hz, I would not recommend that people try it at 120V 50 Hz.
There isn't anything else I said that you actually disputed, other than point out the difference between distribution and transport (which most people on this forum don't care about). I used the word distribution in my later posts.
But my responses were not intended to enlighten electrical engineers, only the layman on this forum, so "excuse me" if I over-simplified things.
BTW, those old turntables are still hot in the US. I recently sold my Thorens 160C with AC synchronous motor for $450.00 on Ebay. I paid about $160.00 for it in 1973.
Maybe the really smart people can explain why most new hi-fi equipment in the US specifies 120V 60 Hz only. You can check the specs for Sony and other manufactures. As I previously stated, most of electronic circuits use DC, so the Hz doesn’t matter, But either the transformer requires 60 Hz or there is something else in there that may need 60 Hz (or the manufacturer specs are too restrictive).
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Posted on: 11:48 am on Mar. 17, 2005
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 11:15 pm on Mar. 17, 2005
Quote: from MarkC on 9:11 am on Mar. 17, 2005
Toilets in Asia and Europe (in places where the Europeans and Asians actually have toilets) are more sophisticated and more likely to have bidets.
Isn't that the truth fo nearly everything (except computers and refrigerators) between Europe and the US...?
Sometimes things indeed come full circle.
Dr. von Quack!
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Posted on: 3:30 pm on Mar. 17, 2005
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Well, after a good night's sleep, I awoke to find some answers to my question, lol! I'd seen a "Life of Edison" biography on PBS not so long ago, and recall the DC/AC rivalry they described. But there was no mention about the 120V/240V adoption issues.
I do remember a bit of this from college daze physics E&M classes, a million years ago, but I think I had one eye on the clock and one eye on the professor, lol! So applying those lessons from the days of yore give me shaky results, at best.
Perhaps the most distressing thing out of all this was the quantum mechanics realization that, statistically speaking, my TGF could be sleeping soundly next to me in our apartment in BKK, while simultaneously knocking down customers in Pattaya for a few extra baht to pay for her shopping sprees. Hmmmm, maybe it's better to give physics a wider berth, lol!
- Balls
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Posted on: 3:42 pm on Mar. 17, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 2:24 pm on Mar. 17, 2005
Isn't that the truth fo nearly everything (except computers and refrigerators) between Europe and the US...?
Sometimes things indeed come full circle.
Dr. von Quack!
That is true when country specific standards are set and everyone must conform to them. But for TV's, a new HDTV standard has been established in the US that will supersede the NTSC standard and the PAL standard by a substantial margin (will also burn a hole in our pockets).
Not sure if the bidets will ever be widespread in the US. But at least we have real toilets everywhere in the US (and lots of hot water to bathe).
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Posted on: 5:39 pm on Mar. 17, 2005
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Anyone tried this mobile surge protection gadget? Along with the wardriving utility of it, I'm really interested in the possibility of being able to leech off the aircraft generator power during a flight (for laptops, portable DVD players, PDAs, recharge cell phone, etc.). Maybe its because I often get seated in the cattle car when flying Ghetto Air, but don't ever recall seeing outlets to plug in something like this at my seat. Any business class regulars notice outlets to use this thing?
APC Air/Auto DC to AC Inverter (EUR & USA models available)
- http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=9
Cheers,
- B -
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Posted on: 10:27 pm on April 29, 2005
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Mr Alan
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There are some airlines that have AC outlets on board, mostly in business and first. It shouldn't matter what the voltage is, since most all AC adapters for computers, cameras, DVD players, cell phones, etc run on 100-240 Volts and 50-60 cycles.
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Posted on: 10:47 pm on April 29, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from babaganoosh on 10:39 am on April 30, 2005
APC Air/Auto DC to AC Inverter (EUR & USA models available)
- http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=9
The last few trips, the plane has invariably had regular ac plugs under the seats.
Quote: from Mr Alan on 5:51 am on Mar. 18, 2005
But for TV's, a new HDTV standard has been established in the US that will supersede the NTSC standard and the PAL standard by a substantial margin (will also burn a hole in our pockets).
Still not as good as the 10 year old HDTV standard used in Japan, as well as the European one. The US one is the usual "We must be different", when the morons had every chance to establish a worldwide digital standard, that would do away with regional zones...
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Posted on: 11:06 pm on Aug. 21, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 10:18 pm on Aug. 21, 2005
Still not as good as the 10 year old HDTV standard used in Japan, as well as the European one. The US one is the usual "We must be different", when the morons had every chance to establish a worldwide digital standard, that would do away with regional zones...
YOu don't have any idea what you are talking about. In fact there are no regional standards, since the US supports mutlple different resolutions, both interlaced and non-interlaced. Most of these standards are developed by Japanese companies, because they are the ones that make the equipment, and Japanese companies can usually never agree (remember Betamax vs VHS).
There actually is no need to a have single standard because a digital signal can be displayed at various resoltuons, just like you can adjust your computer screen for different resolutions.
This is just more US bashing by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
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Posted on: 11:30 pm on Aug. 21, 2005
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