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omdpdh
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Dear Goatscrot
You say GoGo prices are way out of line.
Ok.how about soapy? You don't like it? Fine.
Let's talk about only oilies.
You know and everyone knows oily have 2 clan.
Hardcore clan : such as Mango, Tulip, Snow white, Cherry..no many places.
Softcore clan : except all hard core clan. They are usually for japanese customers.
2 clan's prices are same but service is very different.
Hardcore clan : mutiple shot, BBBJ, A+, PSE, GFE etc
Softcore clan : 1 shot only, no kiss, usually CBJ(some girl do BBBJ), no A+, maybe GFE, maybe better looking(not everyone), better figure(not everyone)
You see differency right?
Usually I have talked with oily girls every time.
You know what. Some guys come and do bondage play, golden shower, scat play...etc
Do they charge penalty for any of those? No they just endure every time.
If you try any of those in softcore places, you will be deported immediately.
And girls in softcore oily have right to stop at anytime when they feel uncomfortable.
I want ask to you.
Why do hardcore oily girls deserve same price forever?
Why do they endure hardcore job like this?
Because they are not good looking? because they are not much educated?
Because they are underdeveloped country people?
Why do we go to hardcore oily?
Because we want Hardcore service PSE that can not be provided in other place.
If pretty girl can provide PSE, that would be awsome, but in reality that is almost impossible.
Pretty young girl know well they are pretty. so they do not try hard. They do not want hardcore job.
I am sure most of hardcore oily girl provide better service than other place.
Yes, some girls provide bad service. but I always ask best performer in the shop.
That make me almost always satisfied.
If you do not want to give butt penalty, then don't do A+. problem is solved, right?
You now pay same price as usual.
and you worry about what is next. rimming, bbbj surcharge..
555 I am sure that will not gonna happen.
Because they also have common sense, though they are not much educated like you.
And above all, thai people are being enlightened.
There is no swimming against the current of the times.
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Posted on: 10:41 pm on April 9, 2015
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Meatywsg
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Goatscrot, loved your post, i'm in agreement.
omdpdh, I don't think Goatscrot is arguing about the good hardcore providers deserving a price increase, just an across the board one, rather than one just for A+
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Posted on: 1:12 am on April 10, 2015
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madfrog
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I have no problem with paying 2000 to the girls ST in oily places, that is what I do since...2003...AS LONG as they provide good service (and yes, A+)
Now if they raise the price and add a A+ tax, this with the recent plunge of the euro...well, then the oily places and P4P in Thailand will all of a sudden be expensive.
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Posted on: 1:16 am on April 10, 2015
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Goatscrot
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OMDPDH,
Again, if the performance standards are returned to what they were back in the good ole' days of Barons and Tulip, then I would have no issue with and across the board price increase. How about a flat 2k to the gal? But sadly many of the providers are not well trained and don't have the oral, rimming, hand job, and massage skills, etc. Again, when you walked into Tulip in 2006 you knew that all gals had a certain skill set.
And why don't the gals perform? It's the customer's fault. Dudes are just taking what they are given. If the guys going to the "softer" places starting demanding BBBJs and walked if they did not get them; it would change. But dudes aren't going to start doing that. There is a big difference between the punters today and those for 10-15 years ago. Those guys would not put up with poor service. They would call off the ST and get out of there and the gals knew this. They could not get away with poor service or even worse a bad attitude. Now they can.
Personally I am pretty easy to please. I am not demanding and am not into pounding a girls butt for 30 min, but I do expect each and every gal in the PSE shops to be skilled at what they do. You said it yourself, we are not going there for the great lookers, rather for the great performers. It is up to the owners and managers to ensure the girls are well trained. You asked why we go to PSE shops? This is why.
I think gals at the PSE shops should have the right to stop a session and boot the guy out whenever they feel uncomfortable or abused. I am amazed that they don't. That sure makes me think less of the folks that are managing/owning the place and in fact would even make me rethink patronizing those shops. There is no room in the industry for gal being compelled to do what they don't want to do or are uncomfortable doing.
Why do they "deserve" that wage? Its a pretty high wage! I know lots of Thai folks who would be happy making that kind of money. For a person without much formal education that is a big salary. Remember minimum wage is 300 baht per day. A gal doing 2 sessions a day is earning 3k a day. With tips, maybe more. Sorry man, that's a chunk of change.
But hey, you provide me with a stunning 22 year old with a great body, light skin, who performs like nympho hell I'll pay more! And you know, Mango used to have plenty of those types of gals. Bo when she was new, Ann (who was related to the owner and worked occasionally. That girl got so wet! Just delicious), Cherry (still one of the most amazing bodies ever in the P4P scene and was just a complete animal in the room), her sister Apple, and there are quite a few others but you get the drift. Every one of them is worth extra money. And that is the service level I expect from each and every provider at the PSE shops. And if the owners want to justify an increase in prices, then they need to make sure the quality standards are there. But hey, when you get a gal that does not want to kiss, does not want to be fingered, is cum-o-phobic and spits into a tissue every 20 seconds during a BJ, that is just not a PSE shop experience. Pulling pre-cum strings off your pecker with their lips is. And jeez, I have had gals in the shops recently who could not give a massage at all. Between rounds they would just lay there. Seems like the old Thai custom of paying more and getting less is becoming the rule here as well.
The nature of the entire P4P scene in Thailand is changing and IMHO not for the better, but this just goes along with economic development. I would not say "enlightenment," as the nation is still mired in a huge political mess of their own making.
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Posted on: 2:50 am on April 10, 2015
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Goatscrot
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Quote: from madfrog on 1:16 pm on April 10, 2015
Join the club. With the plunge of the USD in '06 it has been expensive for us for quite awhile.
Sadly no matter what the exchange rate is, or how nutty the gov is, the mainland Chinese will keep coming. They are just now starting to hit the P4P scene. When the do full on, it will be lights out for the rest of us. And you know the ratio of men to women in China. Quite the shortage of chicks they have there, plus their gov has really cracked down on the scene in the last two years.
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Posted on: 2:54 am on April 10, 2015
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omdpdh
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Quote: from Goatscrot on 2:50 pm on April 10, 2015
You are absolutely right.
I do agree with your comment.
and I also miss glorious days.
Ann, Apple, Cherry, Soda...
Cheers!
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Posted on: 4:00 am on April 10, 2015
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Goatscrot
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And I guess the only possible way we can hope to see things improve is if we tell the owners and managers of the shops how we feel, of course keeping a positive spin on it.
All the gals complain about business being down. Well, there are more choices these days and each place needs to set itself apart.
One place that seems to do a very good business is Addict, with their middle of the road formula. While not "hardcore" like the PSE shops, the gals do provide BBBJ, DFK, MSOG, but are far better looking than what you see at our usual haunts. Every time I have been in there there is usually one or two guys there already or coming in after me. It is obvious that the folks behind this business have given it some thought and decided to fill at certain niche, and are sticking with the plan. Great website as well.
I think there is room for all of these different types of establishments but with increased competition for the punter baht each has to make sure they know their market and strive to satisfy it, or sadly they won't be long for this world.
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Posted on: 5:15 am on April 10, 2015
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Meatywsg
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@Goatscrot > Ok, you've got me, what is MSOG ? Multiple Shots...?
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Posted on: 9:38 pm on April 10, 2015
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Edge
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555 I can see a menu like for Pizza. Basic topping, standard price and then you pay extra for each topping. That'd clarify things.
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Posted on: 7:31 am on April 12, 2015
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Koala
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Hay Meaty. Found this when I googled MSOG. Hope this help. Find anything on google it seems. Acronym for "Multiple Shots on Goal." When a prostitute allows multiple ejaculations for one fee.
Cheers
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Posted on: 10:27 pm on April 12, 2015
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