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farangman4

Quote: from ezmassagebkk on 3:26 pm on Feb. 14, 2011
hi farangman4, just wondering what is the query which I have not responsed to you?



Thank you for asking.

The one that I am repeating in its entirety below. It is a fantasy that I have, but I guess that you're doing the traditional massage + hand/blow/f***, and that are therefore unlikely to offer this sort of speciality. Also, since nobody else chimed in, maybe nobody else would want this even if you offered it!



Well, our intrepid reporter has not yet filed.

Either it was exceptionally good, or terrible.

EZ: I have a request. I'd like to go to a massage place where for the first 10 minutes one girls massages me, then another comes in and they both massage me for five or ten minutes, then the first one leaves and a third takes her place, and so forth. This could be just normal erotic oily with hand job, or blow jobs, or I get to f*** all of them that I can.

Clearly this would cost more than a normal one or two girl massage, but less than, having half a dozen or so massages. Especially with the only-hand-job situation (or maybe I get to choose something like four who only do hands and two who do oral, something like that) each girl effectively only massages for ten minutes or so.

I doubt it would be to everyone's taste, and maybe not to many people's regular budget. But I suspect more than a few would want it, and it would certainly put you on the map.

Guys: what do you reckon?


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Posted on: 4:23 am on Feb. 14, 2011
NicFrenchy

Quote: from harold444 on 2:03 pm on Feb. 14, 2011
nic logicc is hard to believe.
if u gonna spend 5000 4 lt why dont u go to a bar or agogo and at least see if u have rapport w the girl.............not that hard to do.
escort services r 4 places like amerika!



H444,

Again you are incorrect (seems to happen often with you lately).
Escort Services (or Call girls) are not about the rate/Price, they sell something Priceless to some punters: PRIVACY

Many people coming to BKK and booking escorts are Business travellers and they can't be seen in the GoGo Bars.
As well as many Farangs in High-positions here can't really afford to be caught in Nana or Cowboy.

Escort services are Discreet and Private. To some people, this is priceless.


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Posted on: 8:38 am on Feb. 14, 2011
jumpinjack
Outcall.....overnight....long time........thank you for the selective replies. KoolBreez may be spot on or not as to costs but EZ is indeed running girls in MANY places in Bangkok under many different schemes. For locals it does get confusing (at least for those not familiar with EZ personally, my guess many in here are, thus constant defenses and postings..shhh). This way EZ can save face and go about answering the 20+ phone numbers ringing at all the covers of multiple escort agencies and a massage place that entices by saying "we dont offer what the best massage places offer but cant be all things to all folks". Stop posting and let it succeed or fail. Good luck and out.


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Posted on: 9:21 am on Feb. 14, 2011
juniper
Well, I am for one that do appreciate EZ massage willingness to answer questions which is more than most other place is doing. Will give it a try in next couple of weeks.


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Posted on: 2:13 pm on Feb. 14, 2011
magnum
... ezmassage... you are getting your 'nads kicked around pretty good here over the last week... you got to be sweating when you punch into the forum, eh, wondering who's winding up to smack the living shit out of one of your dangling testicles?

... (eee-yeooow, that's just gotta smart!)

... to be fair, you are leaving them hanging out there pretty good... way too tempting to a tough, cynical crowd, as the BTF.

... having devined from the BTF some of the best of whatever a man might ache for in fleshly wonders, many of the members have high expectations and range between passively dismissive to aggressively unforgiving of the status quo.

... exclude the babbling, giggling twits, and think of the balance as your ad hoc "Investment Committee".

... recurring comments from them seem to be that:

(i) you have not distinguished yourself from the bulk of the market;
(ii) your services are below a high standard;
(iii) you have underestimated the competition; and,
(iv) your price points are ambitious.

... while some of your detractors are sniggering village idiots (for whom "lol" translates as more like a sissy-assed "tee hee hee"), others are quite informed consumers with very good market intel... you could find no better intercept surveys... you would do well to measure carefully their opinions... I would.

... I won't restate what others here have offered, as the preliminary field reports (admitedly few) and your own comments seem to be flagging your business thesis as 'at risk'.

... these are not small vibrations every shakedown cruise suffers when they first take the screws up to full throttle.

... drilling down a bit deeper here, I will venture that the greatest risk to your investment just might be that you are a minority partner in what appears as a very Thai platform... and, that your partners are more likely tradesmen/women, rather than seasoned businessmen/women... you might find that raising them to a standard you know farang expect is a bridge too far.

... don't know how long you've been here, or how skilled you are at managing Thai partners, but I'd wager that you haven't the influence over the business you thought you would have.

... you, a farang, are probably expected by them to be the western-looking face who pulls the all-important farang customers... you might be expected by them to do that by simply sprinkling a little fairy dust over the Internet and exploiting your "relationship" with the farang community, regardless of the quality of the product you are fronting.

... it is a very Thai (even Asian) notion... easy marks, Thai's fall for 'image' over 'content' every time... most incorrectly believe that farang cultural values are similarly distorted, believing that farang buyers will buy based solely on the fact that you, their super-secret marketing weapon, are too a farang.

... so, let's see what you've got so far:

(i) an okay web site, with heavily photoshopped, deceptive images sure to piss-off your farang target market... (very typically Thai) ;
(ii) despite your comments to the contrary, an offer that competes with a "best in class" operation whose looming shadow darkens your front door... (your Thai partners might see a fung shui master as the solution... kinda scary, huh?) ;
(iii) an offer that so far seems undistinguished and indistinguishable;
(iv) facilities that are "just enough"; and,
(v) price points making your offer a poor value.

... now, I'm no expert, but this sounds much as any other typically half-baked Thai operation... undercapitalized; without planning; no clear strategy; absence of in-depth market analysis; poor positioning; and enthusiasm and optimism for why you are better than the market... (known by Thais as "deny reality and be positive", and by westerners as the "kiss of death").

... the differentiation between EZ Massage and a bazillion other competitors out there is just not apparent to my keenly untrained eye... your competitive set seems to number in the scores, not three, or four, or five.

... we'll see what happens through the low season... if this is what you opened with, I'd wager you might have been unable to influence your partners during planning to do this the way you know to do it... or, you have ventured far afield from your competence.

... I'd offer an opinion on what to do, but my guess is that you don't have the juice to move your Thai partners, even if you saw merit in my untempered view of the industry... a bridge too far.

... good luck, ezmassage... hope you can move these guys, or get your money out of this.


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Posted on: 2:14 am on Feb. 15, 2011
farangman4
Magnum: an excellent post; I agree with every single word of it, and you have taken the debate further than others, myself included, have so far done on this thread.

Just wondering though: why do you think the business will fold? Lots of mediocre businesses continue for years.

Thanks!


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Posted on: 2:25 am on Feb. 15, 2011
NicFrenchy
Magnum,
An excellent post indeed


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Posted on: 3:42 am on Feb. 15, 2011
farangman4
A few speculations and examinations of assumptions we are, I think, making.

We're assuming EZ is male, and that he is a monger. What he seems to have is a roster of escort girls that he finds work for through a number of websites (if I've understood that bit of the thread correctly).

Could it be that he's the person posting on the classified section of this site?

Might he be hurting as a result of Craigslist ending the escort adverts?

(Like I say, these are speculations).

And could it be that he's decided to find a new outlet for his roster, viz, a massage parlour?

There is one way that he may have helped some of us to answer a question we've been wondering about on here for a while: what exactly ARE these escort girls like? What would we get for our many thousands of baht if we called one up.

Well, now we can go to EZ massage and take a look! By the sounds of things, some pretty lazy, pretty average girls (unless they feel as though they are slumming it in a massage parlour, given that they charge so much more as an escort).


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Posted on: 6:14 am on Feb. 15, 2011
NicFrenchy
I think EZ is just someone trying to promote his business, get customers Feedback and answer questions.
I see nothing wrong with that and I think it is pretty positive.

What I find Strange is that out of the 15 pages of this Thread, there are very few reviews and many people just blabber away with assumptions but have never set foot in the place.
that is not very fair.

I have been to EZ, did not have a positive experience but I have sent to EZ (privately) all the details of the girl and other things I noticed. He thanked me and re-contacted me later to let me know all was taken care of.
Now that in my books is good management.

At least he is honest about the services offered and not hiding behind a username posting fake reviews like some other joints.



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Posted on: 6:23 am on Feb. 15, 2011
ezmassagebkk
thanks nic for standing up for me.

sometimes I guess it might be better to keep my trap shut.

i guess so many people here have misunderstanding of EZ massage and pretty much assumed everything even before they step into the shop. this, I find it really amazing and also amusing.



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Posted on: 7:29 am on Feb. 15, 2011
     

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