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I tried Barrons couple of times last week and requested Saeng and Oil due to recommendations here.  Service was very good with both although I am surprised they both offered bbbj and anal.  

I am HIV positive although I do not have full blown AIDS yet, and was taken back by the fact that girls do not protect themselves fully.  I insisted on condom use as I did not want to infect anyone, but even then the girls will perform rim job on me which I do not think is fully safe.

Not everyone with HIV like me ask for condom.



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Posted on: 11:37 pm on May 4, 2002
pinga
SHIT!!!! This guy blew up the things in here. Anyhow, we must admit this is an issue that ALL the brothers should be aware of. PLAY SAFE, BE SAFE. SHIT!!!! We have to talk about it during the 2nd Roundtable.


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Posted on: 12:18 am on May 5, 2002
Kris
pinga,

SHIT!! This is getting from sanuk to scary! Everytime I have indulged in a BBBJ the fear has been at the back of my mind but bkksanuk's post hit me like a rock.  Wish I could be there for the 2nd Roundtable where this subject is sure to be discussed.  Could you please file a seperate report on the discussion? Thanks.

Maybe under a new thread appropriately titled so that it attracts newbies' attention also.

Kris


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Posted on: 1:01 am on May 5, 2002
mysteryman
A couple of questions...
first to BKKSANUK...how did you get the HIV?(BG THAI)

and regarding barons...

ok so how much does it cost..I read that one guy paid 600BHT for 1.5 hours..well that cant be including SEX..
so whats the price for full service ....
also whats a decent tip?

comparing to EDEN, or Annies, or any of the other parlors,is barons similar..I mean I have never been to to MP so I don't know anything about them..
but I am getting horny thinking about a soapie, or oil massage then f_cked upside down and sideways...
so also alittle run down on what goes on and a comparision of the MP's would be apreciated...
if anyone feels like answering it....
cheers...
or just the price will be fine...


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Posted on: 3:01 am on May 5, 2002
Dave
Bkk sanuk

Yes it would help the brothers if you would or could answer the question about how you became infected.

Guys... Not sure why panic seems to set in. All that has happened is that a brother has been open enough to post what we all must surely have assumed. If a girl will give you a bbbj etc. then she MUST have done it with others, possibly with an infected guy.

The simple answer is that more you play the more you risk. If you play and always use condoms then you are minimised. But if you engage in bbbj or eating out pussy then the risk increases. It is very personal but guys the world has not changed overnight. All that has happened is that someone has made a specific example.

Dave


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Posted on: 7:06 am on May 5, 2002
Kris
Dave,

I agree with you all the way. However, what bkksanuk's post has probably done is just jolted a few of us to the reality. We have discussed under other threads that there is a risk of the girl being infected but It is just that one was a little complascent where BBBJ was concerned due to the low risk factor involved.

We all chewed up one of the brothers for indulging in penetration without the use of condoms but mentioned how the risk involved in BBBJ was very low.

However, it is just a matter of degrees and I have decided to rethink the issue and, as much as I would love to do it, as low as the risk might be, have decided to refrain from BBBJ. THis is a personal decision and is not a reflection on the sexual habits of the other brothers.

As for bkksanuk, here is a brother who has been bold enough to admit his hiv-positive status. His admission,  the same as the admission by another brother regarding having sex without the use of condoms has started a discussion and may prompt some of the brothers to reorient their aproach to safe sex.

Kris


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Posted on: 7:59 am on May 5, 2002
Dave
Yes Kris

I agree that it was bold of of Bkk sanuk to make the post.

But LIFE is a risk..
Many more people die from other activities.. driving.. smoking... drinking.... long haul flights... bad(fatty) diet... dangerous sports... and so the list goes on.

bbbj may be the line that some might draw. It is in our individual minds. My line is drawn at unprotected sex

Dave


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Posted on: 8:50 am on May 5, 2002
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Mysteryman,in reply to your questions....
The house charges are 1 hour=baht 400,1.5 hours =600,2 hours =800.The "special" oil massage is 1500 whether you take 1,1.5 or 2 hours.She first showers you all over then starts oil massage on your back and if you are new she will ask what you want,just mumble "special"...!She will then use her oily tits on your back,rubbing them all over you.She then invites you to turn over for the real action,you can eat her while she blows you bbbj(up to you here if condom or not).She will slide all over you using plenty of oil,the oil is non- irritant 'cos I asked.Basically,she will do what you desire.
As far as choosing a girl,there are 20 or so there sitting on a circular sofa sticking out their tits and crossing their legs to attract you,you can sit a few feet away and have a drink whilst making your choice or go for Seang,Oil or Mook,all give good service.
Enjoy....!


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Posted on: 10:35 pm on May 5, 2002
Bigin
   Seems like these replies to bkksanuk's post are a little weak!  Let me ask if bkksanuk's insistance paid off? Did he inform them of this fact? Where else has he been spreading his joy? Does he know that in any language condoms ARE NOT GARAUNTEED?!!! Personaly I dont care how he got it, but that he would willingly risk spreading it around is WAY WRONG!!!
You might as well just say " hey girls i'm about to murder you" If i'm out of line with this then you should
hear all the other words I have to say about it!!!
  I know there's a risk ok, but when someone knows they have that or any other STD then why cant they just spend their money on research & development,& rubber dolls!!!


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Posted on: 4:19 am on May 7, 2002
Dave
Strong stuff Bigin

I'm sure that many folks share your views. The more scarey bit is how many others are at it, and how many don't know they are infected.

I have regular checks but I don't think that many do.

Dave


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Posted on: 1:58 pm on May 7, 2002
     

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