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dirty guru
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If you are married in thailand to a thai..it helps...That amount should be fine to start something... (but i am waiting til its all up time...super)
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:09 am on June 18, 2003
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MickyK1971
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If married to a Thai does that not mean all is in her name. House, car, business etc.
Seems to me a very good way to get broke real easy. If I read some of the horror stories right of course.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:17 am on June 18, 2003
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dirty guru
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yea but i live here in australia..time i go there (about 15 years the whole picture might be different ( might not be married.... but yea i bought cattle up north she is an honest girl..and its for her family anyway..but yea micky i have heard a few tales that make you think.... thats where lawyers com into it....Hell my last wife got half the old house and that was in oz...
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Posted on: 11:26 am on June 18, 2003
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craigoz
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DG,
Only half the house, what a cheapskate you are. I gave my ex the f_ckin lot (in Oz) just to see the end of her.
I should qualify it as "Well, what she knew about "
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:45 pm on June 18, 2003
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Monk
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bucksfun,
Regarding the consulting industry here. There are major consulting firms here with various presences like McKinsey, BCG and i've met some people here from Booz Allen and Bain (i think KPMG is mostly IT consulting here). These companies do get large, multi million dollar projects from major banks or gov't privatization studies. I have a friend who just got a job out of Harvard Business School at McKinsey for 300K baht per month. However, she comes from a well connected family and connections are everything in thailand. Its how these major consulting firms get the lucrative contracts. You could try getting a job at one of those firms, but if you don't speak thai or have thai relationships and don't have a specific talent that is needed, it may be difficult.
As for smaller work, i do have consulting friends who have looked into providing consulting services on a smaller scale as not everyone can afford big name consultants. Actually, almost all of my consulting friends have mentioned a desire to start their own, niche or boutique consulting shop yet i don't actually know anyone who has actually tried. I think one of the problems is that unless you have a recognized brand name or are offering a very specific service such as appraisals or certifications or IT, small and medium sized thai firms are unlikely to pay and you'll never get anything close to western rates.
Also be warned, visiting thailand, living in thailand and working in thailand are very different things. Especially if you are used to efficient western business environments. Corruption and an inefficient beaucracy are a part of life over here and can be quite frustrating.
There are quite a few farang owned bars/restaurants over here, might be worth investigating.
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Posted on: 2:19 am on June 19, 2003
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thaiprivateeye
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To get some idea of whats around/prices, http://www.sunbeltasia.com is worth alook - but IMHO judging by the overall ecconomy, I would be certainly looking to only get involved in something where you got you pay/income whatever, from a company or persons based outside of the realm.
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Posted on: 11:28 pm on June 19, 2003
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craigoz
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bucksfun,
Kryp as direct as he is is correct. The risks of establishing a consultancy business in a culturally different environment far outweigh the potential gains, unless you have a unique talent and a unique service product that you can offer your clients.
One thing to keep in mind is "Can you afford the first loss" and buy that I mean, with only 100K to invest and the likely need for an uninterupted income stream thereafter!!! please ask yourself what happens if a client fails to pay after you have performed the service.
In the west you may have legal recourse, but in thailand and new to the game???????????
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Posted on: 4:10 am on June 20, 2003
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Smegma
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Sorry to say, but I may even doubt how good a consultant that has these thoughts may be.
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Posted on: 6:56 am on June 20, 2003
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bucksfun
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Smegma
That is a fair point. ÝI would conduct a much more rigorous analysis before taking the plunge, and perhaps this isn't the best forum to seek advice on business deals. ÝAt the same time many brothers here have the advantage of being based in thailand which i don't. Ý
I don't think that taking informal soundings before investing too much time, effort and capital in serious market research and building a business plan, means I am a poor consultant, I would have thought quite the reverse actually (the more views I get the better prepared I can be for more in depth analysis). ÝOthers may disagree, but I've never had a dissatisfied client.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:09 am on June 20, 2003
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haam sup
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bucksfun,
Not knowing your background, I'd say you are doing the right thing by asking around informally. ÝYou never know who is lurking here, and you MAY hear from someone who has a specific piece of helpful info. ÝJust don't limit it to THIS forum - get as much feedback as you can.
That said, you probably have noticed a general theme:
Here there be dragons.
My own strategy, after more than a little bit of exposure to Thailand, including a bit of formal language study, as well as a bit of the practical, is to do something which derives income from withOUT the Realm. ÝIt is by far the safest, if not the easiest approach. ÝThat doesn't exclude export, which would allow you a good deal of ground time in LOS, but which relies on solid contacts/infrastructure in your home country.
The reasons are many, but mainly two: 1) Thailand is POOR, and doesn't want you to make money selling goods/services that Thais SHOULD be able to provide internally, and 2) money collected and held outside Thailand is SAFE money, and bringing it into Thailand, as needed, gets you some status with the powers that be. ÝThis includes visa preferences, etc.
I know that referring to Thailand 'not wanting' something implies that it is a sentient being or something, but time after time, the net result is just the same: an anthropomorphicized Thailand grinds foreign business aspirants into dust - sometimes slowly, but inexoribly.
These things alone should encourage you to separate your wants/needs from your geographical preferences. ÝNote that expat jobs are truly rare in proper perspective, and often shaky. ÝFew EXTREMELY lucky guys get that US$100,000 + housing allowance. ÝMore likely, a balance will be struck between your better skills/work ethic and Thai lower wages, and you will make a premium by Thai standards, but not the extravagant US standard, IF you are lucky/talented enough to be considered in the first place.
Knowing SOME business niche well may put you in the position to start an independent venture. ÝI wish I knew the gem BUSINESS well. ÝI can go to GIA, for instance and learn all about gems, but knowing the business, and having the contacts, is what really counts...
Forget bars/restaurants, unless you are a VERY successful bar/restaurant owner elsewhere, and then ONLY if you know a lot about Thailand. "How to make a small fortune in the Thai bar/restaurant business..." - you know the rest.
Also, forget the ads in The Bangkok Post, The Nation, etc. ÝHiring is done through contacts and patronage.
hope this helps
haam sup
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Posted on: 1:53 pm on June 20, 2003
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