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jingjo
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Buai
My Thai wife became an Australian citizen a few years back,
she can still renew her Thai passport No worries!
But than again Australia is Not America!
Why would any Falang want to become a Thai?
so you could wear a yellow t-shirt on Mondays!
What about The KING Bhumibol Adulyadej
( wasn't he was born in America) 
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Posted on: 2:33 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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LastSurvivor
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Quote: from China Sailor on 2:59 am on Sep. 26, 2007
Mr. Alan is spot on here. My sister-in-law had to wait five years once she first arrived in the US to get citizenship (but that was 20 years ago).
While I am certainly not an expert and going through the process for the first time I believe it is 3 years from the time you get your Green Card until you can become a U.S. Citizen. In the old days it might take two years just to get a Green Card but the process has improved vastly with computers and FedEx. You can actually speed the process up a bit. My wife got her G.C. in August '06 after arriving in Jan '06. Basically 6 months after our wedding (Feb). Her G.C. needs to be renewed after 2 years to a permanent G.C. at a nice little price tag. One year into the permanent G.C. she can apply for U.S. Citizenship. So lets call it 3 years and 7 months if you are good with paperwork and red tape. My daughter is automatically a U.S. citizen as she was born in Amerika. Already has a passport and a trip to Thailand under her belt at 3 months old. My understanding is she would also be a citizen if one parent is an American no matter where she was born but that might involve some paperwork and more red tape. I want my daughter to have Thai citizenship as well as her American Citizenship. If she desires at 18 she can choose whichever she wants but I think there are ways around that as well.
LS
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Posted on: 3:21 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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atl
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LS,
Hey man..well after 2 years with your first green card in america you must re-submit (we are in the process) they want more pics and basic evidence you are still together...then they give the wife an updated green card for 3 years after that you can apply for citizenship..
so 5 years in all..I think I am correct on this and dont think we will try and make mrs. atl a citizen (unless she wants to)... its much better as a perminent resident...
my 2 cents,
atl
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Posted on: 6:42 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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MadStockBroker
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don't forget the surgery for penis reduction and removal of common sense when a farang becomes a thai.....
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Posted on: 7:28 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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Buai
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Jingjo,
It is no problem on the Australian end, the Australian government allows dual citizenship. Yes, she could continue to renew her Thai passport (by not advising the Thai government she had become an Aussie), but there may be a problem if the the Thai government found out she had Australian ctizenship?
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Posted on: 7:37 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from LastSurvivor on 4:30 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
My understanding is she would also be a citizen if one parent is an American no matter where she was born but that might involve some paperwork and more red tape.
That is basically correct if the parent spent a certain amount of years in the US before the child was born. The number of years and the exact rules depends on the date of birth because of changes in the law.
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Posted on: 8:10 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from LastSurvivor on 4:30 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
While I am certainly not an expert and going through the process for the first time I believe it is 3 years from the time you get your Green Card until you can become a U.S. Citizen.
I found this blurb which describes the difference between those who have to wait 3 years and those who have to wait for 5 years:
"To become a naturalized United States citizen, one must be at least eighteen years of age at the time of filing, a legal permanent resident of the United States, and have had a status of a legal permanent resident in the United States for five years less 90 days before they apply (this requirement is reduced to three years less 90 days if they (a) acquired legal permanent resident status (b) have been married to and living with a citizen for the past three years and (c) the spouse has been a US citizen for at least three years prior to the appicant applying for naturalization.) "
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Posted on: 8:14 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from China Sailor on 1:59 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
According to my mates at my local in Marlow (Bucks). The UK also has that provision and I believe that it is part of the current EU charter...
I found this regarding UK citizenship by birth:
Citizenship by Birth [in the UK] is Suitable For:
- Children born before 1 January 1983 in the United Kingdom
Note: Except children born to certain people holding diplomatic or consular status
- Children born in the United Kingdom on or after 1 January 1983 if either the father or the mother is a British citizen
- Children born in a qualifying territory on or after 21 May 2002 if the father or mother was a British citizen or legally settled either in the United Kingdom or that territory
- People born outside the United Kingdom before 1 January 1983 if, immediately before 1 January 1983, they were citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies and had the right of abode in the United Kingdom
- Children born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983 if either the father or mother is legally settled
Note: 'Settled' means ordinarily resident in the United Kingdom without being limited under the immigration laws as to how long the person can stay in the UK
- Children born in the United Kingdom on or after 1 January 1983 but before 2 October 2000 if, at the time, either parent was an EEA national who was exercising Treaty rights
- Children born in the United Kingdom on or after 2 October 2000 to EEA nationals who have an unconditional right of residence under EC law (such as retired people and people unable to work because of incapacity)
So I think that the US may be the only country where one is a citizen (without condition) if born in the US, even if the parents are illegally in the country.
Here is something I found regarding EU citizenship:
According to Article 17 of the Treaty of Rome (as amended) [1], to hold the "Citizenship of the Union" one must first hold the "nationality of a Member State". In the case of Micheletti v Delegación del Gobierno en Cantabria (C-396/90) [1992] ECR I-4239 [2], it was established that "it is for each member state, having due regard to Community law, to lay down the conditions for the acquisition and loss of nationality".
So it is up to each country within the EU to determine citizenship.
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Posted on: 8:34 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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expatchuck
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Quote: from sai tai on 11:22 am on Sep. 25, 2007
Section 14. A person of Thai nationality, who was born of an alien father and has acquired the nationality of his father according to the law on nationality of his father, or a person who acquires Thai nationality under Section 12 paragraph 2 is required,..........IF HE DESIRES TO RETAIN HIS OTHER NATIONALITY...., to make a declaration of his intention to renounce his Thai nationality within one year after his attaining the age of twenty years, according to such form and in the manner as prescribed in Ministerial Regulations.
Retyped and capitals added.
This appears to refer to the Thai government stating they will not recognize a second nationality and has nothing to do with whether the "other nationality" will accept dual citizenship. US citizenship will always be recognized by the US unless the citizen officially renounces their US citizenship in front of a US Embassy official.
The US will accept dual citizenship if the other nationality, in this case Thai, was the country of birth of the person involved. Case in point. My daughter was born of a Thai mother and US father in Thailand. She has dual citizenship as a result of her Thai mother and place of birth, and US citizenship as a result of having an American father. The US will always recognize her as a citizen of either country but the Thai authorities will only recognize her as a Thai citizen after she reaches her 20th birthday.
The simple solution to retaining both citizenships after she reaches her majority is to do nothing. She retains her Thai citizenship by saying nothing and she retains her US citizenship by doing nothing.
If a child is born in Thailand, or any other country, to a US citizen parent, they must present the child's birth certificate, duly translated into English, to a US Embassy anywhere and obtain a "Report of Birth Abroad" certificate. This is really the magic document that enables the child to obtain a passport from the US.
Jingjo:
Yes the King was born in the US. He renounced his citizenship when he ascended to the throne, however, so he is no longer a dual citizen.
There are many Saudis that are US citizens as a result of being born in the US. Many military people that I know have children with US citizenship as the father was in the US for training when his child was born. An interesting conundrum in some cases.
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Posted on: 10:58 pm on Sep. 25, 2007
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jingjo
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quote: Buai
It is no problem on the Australian end, the Australian government allows dual citizenship. Yes, she could continue to renew her Thai passport (by not advising the Thai government she had become an Aussie), but there may be a problem if the the Thai government found out she had Australian ctizenship?
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