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seajohn
Having had some part in the responses here I feel obligated to reiterate.

But first, I don't feel it would be fair to lump me anonymously into "Buttman's buds" as you may have implied, Daffy. I have never met Buttman007 though I gladly admit a feeling of appreciation as we have shared a few written jokes on this Forum. I respect both your intelligences and would like us to find some agreement about the issue, as we now discuss it.

Once again, I believe the correct path a diplomatic one. I don't think my last post strayed from that.

In my view, regardless of whether the events portrayed were imaginary or not, it is obvious to me as a reader that the intent of the writer was to tell a story in which a man finds himself in a situation suddenly attracted to some known-to-be underage girls and explain to us his reactions.

I would guess that we, as men, have all found ourselves in a similar situation in these modern times, in whatever country allows young girls freedom of dressing according to the fashion they follow for whatever reasons. That's probably unavoidable to anyone with a normal consciousness.

However my point would be questioning the intent of the author for his audience. Why has he chosen to tell us?

1. Is it merely a confession of an accidental encounter? If so, these experiences would not be the rarest thing on earth, as I described above. I do not blame him then for the experience of course. And as far as artistic expression goes, it has been proven to be immensely valuable for humans to express subjective feelings, disapproved of by our mores, if there is a therapeutic goal. Sometimes the goal, especially when not guided by some mentor or professional, isn't realized yet by the writer. In this case the writer must necessarily face the objections, comments, and queries from members of the Forum. I believe the writer should attempt to answer them since that would justify (as it justifies all of our individual offerings here) the post and the Forum as a whole.

2. Or, the piece was written merely to incite the readers into identifying with anti-social feelings for their own sake. This could be akin to suggesting that you shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater although the writer was too afraid to do it during the movie he speaks of. Or describing in detail a murder the writer would like to do if he wasn't afraid of the law, regardless of mores. There are many indications in Penbelly's piece of this attitude, of course. If the work really is a pure fiction then this position becomes less justifiable. But if it is a true account (or perhaps even if not), then the value would consist in the writer's willingness to justify his position either,
a) as some form of moral anarchist or re-evaluator of sexual values.
b) as a poet, so to speak, defining the (our) human condition as having tendencies toward such feelings regardless of any other consideration. Or, as a greater poet, existing in the midst of every other consideration.

At this point we are asking the poster to provide further explanation of his post, if he can.

However, I think I'd also beg to mention something Joe Wood mentioned in another thread (related to Penbelly but actually relating to all threads), this very dialogue we are now engaging in is de facto defining "our Forum" (respects to bkkz (and of course all the generous sponsors of which I am looking forward quite soon to being one, though probably not as huge as you, Daffy!555) ) and therefore we should strive to remain open-minded and welcoming to posts without losing our critical faculties as men with our personal moralities--and our awareness of what is ultimately acceptable or not... or legal (especially as we always have rumors of crackdowns).

Now I hope that this necessarily inconclusive yet hopefully defining but surely lengthy post of mine hasn't induced any disgust because I've just about exhausted my poor brain in this vein and would be quite willing to lighten up. I feel like I'm in school again.

Penbelly, what's the story? Is it too much to ask, what did you learn about who you are and what happened?


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Posted on: 11:31 am on June 9, 2006
Loung Steeb
I think you guys are avoiding jail bait.


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Posted on: 11:49 am on June 9, 2006
ItaliaThug

Quote: from seajohn on 12:32 am on June 10, 2006

In my view, regardless of whether the events portrayed were imaginary or not, it is obvious to me as a reader that the intent of the writer was to tell a story in which a man finds himself in a situation suddenly attracted to some known-to-be underage girls and explain to us his reactions.




Last night I went to Cain club in NYC, after dropping the name of a promoter I know, the dyke working the velvet rope, Let me and my posse in. After scoping out the usual models and bottles crowd, noticed a brazilian model who I recognize from a recent MOMA event.

Asked the model what the DJ was spinning tonite, she rolled her eyes in the typical supermodel f*** off way, I stated I had some blow and would she be interested. At that point she called over her other model friend and she dragged me into the ladies room. Put the blow on the pocket mirror I always carry with me. After a few lines, I was kissing the model from the moma party while her friend who resemble Giselle B. was on her knees blowing me.....

Penbelly, your a..... F* it. THis is beneath me.


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Posted on: 12:09 pm on June 9, 2006
penbelly
And you're a drug addict,bitch. Go back to your Amazon's in NYC. You sure you weren't blowing a transsexual for the blow????


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Posted on: 6:03 pm on June 9, 2006
seajohn
Uh, OK... Now boys, boys!... Keeper, can you lower the tarp please?... No, not... not on that one, he's a visitor--Between them, that's right... Thank you.

We don't seem to have gotten a choate response here to direct questioning.


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Posted on: 8:23 pm on June 9, 2006
Buttman 007
Mr Duck

I'm not sure I have anything else to add that I haven't already stated over the past day or two.

I respect your opinion, and I think there's some good truth to what you have to say. Your calm, level-headed rebuttal was actually quite refreshing, even if I disagree wtih you.
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Seajohn

I always enjoy your posts. Smart, clever and diplomatic. I don't think, though, that Penbelly is as deep as your last post suggests. He's an ill-tempered orangutang, operating off the lower regions of his brain-stem. He's capable of sex, violence, grunts, paranoia, ego-building, an arm-pit scratch or two, and naps. That's about it.

In my opinion, his only motivation for posting such a complete bunch of bullshit was to make him look desirable, so desirable that no place--including a library---is safe for him. Girls just can't leave him alone. I don't see much depth beyond that.

Good night, everybody.











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Posted on: 8:54 pm on June 9, 2006
seajohn
Buttman: Thanks for the compliment. Same, yourself--insightful and concise.

Looking back at things, yes, it's true my reasoning may be faulted with anthropomorphism. Your last assertion as to his motivation for posting that is definitely a psychological probability (which I overlooked) and which would justfiably be scorned. As of yet, no reply from the subject on this question. None may be forthcoming, as you imply--self-reflection not being related to his interests. I will be patient a while longer.

BTW, the Conference is going better than I expected.


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Posted on: 9:18 pm on June 9, 2006
DaffyDuck

Quote: from penbelly on 7:04 am on June 10, 2006

And you're a drug addict,bitch. Go back to your Amazon's in NYC. You sure you weren't blowing a transsexual for the blow????
While ItaliaThug's no better than any cheap drug addict, rationalizing his habit (I'm sure) as 'exciting'. your response to him just places you so far lower on the evolutionary rungs than even Thug.. and that's saying something.

Very disappointing, indeed.



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Posted on: 9:35 pm on June 9, 2006
LocalYokul

Quote: from penbelly on 7:04 am on June 10, 2006

sure you weren't blowing a transsexual for the blow?


nice to see that you know how to get some dope for free,

but you can probably stick to lollipops and teddy bears for those schoolgirls in the library


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Posted on: 9:47 pm on June 9, 2006
seajohn
Here's something even further diappointing... Penbelly just sent me a PM, " Go to the Z-forum sperm burper. You are now a star"...

I went to the Z as he so gallantly requested. Now we know why he's been so quiet lately. He's been composing, what for him, is a masterpiece. The ironic part is he continues to attack me when my last posts have been holding out for the hope of his human aspects!

However, I continue to analyze his entry there for signs of rudimentary intelligence and humor. It is lengthy and looks promising.


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Posted on: 10:50 pm on June 9, 2006
     

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