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scobie
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I have to add my endorsement of what yodsaker says. It was a valid and well argued criticism, and marc has done the right thing by responding in kind.
I have to admit, i've always been a bit 'uneasy' about how Eden has seemed to be above criticism of any kind. It's as if we put it on a pedestal and it mustnt be touched, yet we're all perfectly happy criticising this gogo bar, or that MP on this forum.
This forum is for sharing such information and comments. The guy's complaints were valid, and marc's response does him credit.
I really must get my arse over to Eden one day...
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:18 pm on Jan. 30, 2005
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bkkhusla
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"Perhaps it was better to let Marc know by email. I don't understand why you were 'so polite' not to ask for a refund but now to bash the Club in public."
It was more of a politeness to the girls, and also it felt a bit awkward and by that time I just wanted to leave and put it down to a bad experience. Also, this thread is not just about praising the Eden establishment, but a thread that is offering good and bad reports in an attempt to give the rest of the forum readers an even view of a place so they can decide where to spend there money. This club is not above criticism as Marc quite rightly knows.
"It's like complaining about True's Hi Speed Internet... many complain and those who might have good luck and pleasure might be put off and miss the time of their lives.
If it was a freelancer, would you have made a report?"
I wouldn't have made a report unless it was a freelancer that had an entire thread on her in here, and was welcome as Marc is to some criticism in a hope to improve furture services. It's true some people may miss the time of their lives, and some people would go down there and waste 4000 baht which could have been better spent elsewhere. That's not everyone by the way, but some guys I think would be disspointed, but with Marc's speedy response I expect that all will be sorted out soon.
"already done for the schoolgirls uniforms"
That's what I'm talking about, make a complaint and dealt with within a few days, a definate plus for Eden is it's management.
"on the 38 ladies we have right now,30 confirmed me that there is no problem if the guys want to kiss their tits
still 8 ladies to check for"
I can't help but thinking the other 8 will tell you the same, as that's the required answer. I have had a PM also from another poster who complained about the same thing to me, so don't think it was "one off" situation.
"if it ever happen's again, a PM with some name will be really appreciated"
I got your PM Marc regarding the names, unfortunately I haven't a clue of the names, I always ask a girl there name and forget them soon after unless I have a memorable experience with that girl.
Must add here, that the response from Marc concerning complaints is excellent and I appreciate that. I hope you don't think I'm bashing the club, just offering a little criticism, that I hope you take into account, and that I hope fellow posters can use to make there decisons on where to "shop" with a little more clarity.
I cannot help but think a few more criticisms like this may have saved me 4000 baht, some time and some dissapointment.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:58 pm on Jan. 30, 2005
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edenpapa
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Quote: from bkkhusla This club is not above criticism as Marc quite rightly knows.
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nobody is perfect
all we can try to do my partners,myself,Mind my assistant and all the staff is to try to do our best
and we really try hard,
If it was a freelancer, would you have made a report?"
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and to any other place in Thailand the answer would have been : just take a walk
I It's true some people may miss the time of their lives, and some people would go down there and waste 4000 baht which could have been better spent elsewhere.
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3500b only Sir
again, how many thousands of guys did we took care of and how many real complain about services or attitude ???
"already done for the schoolgirls uniforms"
That's what I'm talking about, make a complaint and dealt with within a few days, a definate plus for Eden is it's management.
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just 2 hours
I can't help but thinking the other 8 will tell you the same, as that's the required answer. "if it ever happen's again, a PM with some name will be really appreciated"
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that's the reason why I am asking a pm if it ever happen"s again
I got your PM Marc regarding the names, unfortunately I haven't a clue of the names,
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then maybe you have some time and date or some clues about how to recognize the ladies
as long as I can't check with the ladies there is a part of your first report on which I will never agree :
##2. Girls - Train them to provide a better service##
it is THIS service who made our reputation
I cannot help but think a few more criticisms like this may have saved me 4000 baht, some time and some dissapointment.
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agreed that 2, 3 guys are talking about this lady who refused the tits kissing part,
agreed too about the schoolgirls uniforms
but how many guys are complaining about services and attitude on this over 150 pages thread, and that after more than 5 and a half years of opening ?????
see you
marc
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:49 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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bkkhusla
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Hi Marc,
I hope your not taking this the wrong way, I didn't want to make a big thing of this, just wanted to get it off my chest and make the report. Obviuosly most of your customers are satisfied, but no doubt there are quite a few people that are disspointed that you never find out about as they don't make a complaint.
Yep, sorry, didn't want to misquote the price, 3500 baht for 2 girls, plus of course taxi there and back and a drink at the bar whilst deciding. I of course didn't tip as didn't feel it was deserved.
I wish I could help you more with identifying the girl but I have no exact dates, I popped in about 3-4 weeks ago, around 4-5 pm and the girl had no distinguishing marks, ie. tattoos. Hmm, let me think, about 26, a little plump, shortish hair, about to her shoulders, and she immediately partnered off with an older, quite skinny girl, if this is a regular partnership then maybe that helps. On top of that, can't help you much.
"as long as I can't check with the ladies there is a part of your first report on which I will never agree :
##2. Girls - Train them to provide a better service##
it is THIS service who made our reputation"
Hey, I'm open to say that maybe I got the girl on an off day, they did work well together which was excellent. Of course it's first impressions that count though, and since that experience I would be cautious to use the services there again.
"but how many guys are complaining about services and attitude on this over 150 pages thread, and that after more than 5 and a half years of opening ????? "
I'm afraid there is always a first, and how many guys have complaints but have never aired them to you?
As I said, this is not an eden bashing thread, and all guys should go and try it for themselves, but it was an honest report of my experience there. I am asking for no money back, I am not a rival club onwer that is trying to tarnish your reputation, just one guy with one personal view. Just the fact that you got the uniforms sorted so quickly, is one thing that already makes me think better of the place, and tempt me for another visit, and if I like the service the next time, then I will of course come back on here and provide a glowing report. Best regards.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 1:11 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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tin man
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Marc,
My LT TGF is a genuine bi. We have taken other ladies for 3 some before, but often the third lady is not as comfortable as we would like.
My questions are:
1. Can we take only one lady to make up a 3 some;
2. If yes, I would prefer a take away if possible;
3. Can my TGF come into the club (as I would prefer her to make the selection) ;
4. Are all your ladies comfortable with full participation with an outsider or do the only work with each other?
5. Are there any specific ladies you would recommend for this?
Thanks for your help.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:33 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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edenpapa
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hi Bkkhusla
no offence taken
true about the uniforms
true about the tits kissing part
but I really would like SO MUCH to clear this part :
as long as I can't check with the ladies there is a part of your first report on which I will never agree :
##2. Girls - Train them to provide a better service##
see you
marc
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:20 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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edenpapa
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Quote: from tin man on 1:27 pm on Jan. 31, 2005
Marc,
1. Can we take only one lady to make up a 3 some;
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yes if you pay her double because she will have to take care of 2 person
so better to take 2 ladies, will cost you the same price
when couples come in the Club they are treated like if it was just the guy, meaning 1 guy and 2 ladies, the lady"s guy is always welcome as a guest
2. If yes, I would prefer a take away if possible;
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ok
3. Can my TGF come into the club (as I would prefer her to make the selection) ;
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sure
4. Are all your ladies comfortable with full participation with an outsider or do the only work with each other?
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any lady should be confortable with
5. Are there any specific ladies you would recommend for this?
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not really
Thanks for your help.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:25 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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bkkhusla
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"but I really would like SO MUCH to clear this part :
as long as I can't check with the ladies there is a part of your first report on which I will never agree :
##2. Girls - Train them to provide a better service## "
That was more a reference to the whole thing, as in the overly false moaning, no tits kissing, and it was all a little too 'clinical' rather than the fantasy 3-some it was meant to be.
Feel free to forget about that part it really wasn't meant specific point about training them, but would have been better said to check the quality of the girls services, are they constantly doing there job well? If you get no complaints does that mean you have 100% satisfied customers?
I understand your problem with finding young attractive girls that provide those services as well, of course if they are stunners then they will only last a week or two before they find a sponser or two and leave the club, but the older of the girls really wasn't worth 1750 baht, for that price I expect a reasonably attractive girl. As I mentioned the looks of the girls were not that important to me as I heard the performance and services made up for it, and they didn't which is my real complaint.
Again, girls very pleasant girls, just not as good as what I expected considering the cost and reputation, but I'm confident you are sorting it out now and your quick response to these complaints assures me that the club will constantly improve.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:17 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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Johnny
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Hi Marc,
I had a slightly different experience from bkkhusla.
I was in Bangkok twice over the last 2 weeks and visited the club 3 times. I had an awesom time on all 3 occassions.
I chose the same girl "Cat" 3 times and she is so so cute. I believe she has only been at the club for about 3 weeks, she didnt speak much English but she was cute, fun, allowed just about anything and I would recommend her in a heartbeat.
On 2 occassions she chose the same girl whose "name" escapes me right now but was also nice and a lot of fun, spoke good English and who also took really good care of me (nice tits too). Both let me lick to my heart content.
The other occasion she took "Anne" with her. Nice bod but a little older and probably wouldnt have been my first choice, but she was a little bit nastier which made up for it. My only complaint was her constant yawning but we made a good joke out of it.
Whenever I come to bangkok these days I only ever do your club. I feel safe there from disease (although im practicising 100% condom covered everything these days after a not to pleasant experience 6 months back from another place) and the girls always make me feel like im King for an hour and a half.
I have had some very nice looking girls at your club over the last year or so, I realize it depends on luck and time but Mind never gives me a hard time if I come in and decide to come back an hour later or whatever.
Anyway please note that "Cat" is doing a great job for someone so young and so new to the club. Tell her the aussie guy with the pony tail says she is great (if you tell her I was the guy with Anne yawning she will know who I am).
Anyway just wanted to share my thoughts. I reckon its the best bang for your buck in Bangkok (just one mans opinion) and I have never been disappointed........
BKKhusla, maybe you could give it another go? New uniforms, new girls, new start?
Cheers
Johnny
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:20 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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bkkhusla
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"BKKhusla, maybe you could give it another go? New uniforms, new girls, new start?"
At some point I will, first impressions do last, but I am also willing to try it again some time perhaps speaking to Marc first for some top tips or girls to choose and I will have one of these great experiences I have read on here so often.
And he's already sorted out things like the uniforms so already it's a better place than when I visited!
On my next eden visit I will ceratinly post another report and hopefully it will be a more positive one.
Good luck to the club, as I say, love the concept of it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:30 am on Jan. 31, 2005
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