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Dear Froggystyle,
You mean 1000 - 1500pesos in the morning after spending the whole night with me in the my room.
Please explain.
Thanks
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:39 am on July 24, 2003
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griffin
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that's about the same what i usually do give them too! except when you pick up girls from one of the burgos bars and did pay them some drinks already. as those drinks are rather pricy most of these girls tend to come for free with you as long as they like you and are happy with you!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 8:49 pm on July 24, 2003
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Froggystyle
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yes, give them the cash in the morning. I normally just slip it into their purse therefore no loss of face. Or give them the money and say "buy something nice for yourself." We all know what's going on but it takes the sting out of the trade. If a girl starts hassling you about money before any action, ditch her and find another, chances are she'll leave in the middle of the night. if you go down burgos, be careful, some of those bars double bill if you look like a drunken target. enjoy...
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:38 am on July 28, 2003
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China Sailor
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The polite way to give the girl some money is to offer it as 'pokieto' or 'pocket money'. If they are a Freelancer they expect a tip 1000 - 2000 P . A burgos girl you had better deal with and do not assume she is free.
Had a mate who did that, she demanded USD200 the next day. When he did not pay she filed a police report and he was blocked from departing the airport. Cost him P5000 to bribe his way out with the police.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:55 am on July 28, 2003
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Bimlee
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Griffin,
How safe is Manila now? We can see , there are sudden bomb blast many a times. And did you use that contact I gave you ? Send me a PM , if you have to send any.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:17 am on Aug. 18, 2003
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griffin
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manila is a little safer then jakarta i reckon, especially if you are an american citizen! manila sure US friendly, jakarta not!!!
overall safe wise bkk is for sure superior!
didn't use your contact as i lost the number, would you mind to send again?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:33 pm on Aug. 18, 2003
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Interesting report from the Sunday Mirror Sept.7
COP'S 'SEX SLAVES'
Sep 7 2003
EXCLUSIVE
From Mike Cohen In Manila And Andy Gardner In London
A FORMER British policeman has been arrested following a probe into the sale of girls as young as 11 to paedophiles in the Philippines.
Armed special forces sealed off roads around a notorious red-light district as they launched a lightning raid on the sleazy go-go bars owned by 43-year-old Richard Agnew.
They discovered that girls promised jobs as waitresses had been forced to sleep with Western sex tourists. For £6 extra, clients were even guaranteed virgin, pre-pubescent teenagers.
Agnew, who lives the life of a millionaire, moved to the Philippines seven years ago from Northern Ireland where he served as a sergeant with the RUC. And he soon opened up a string of go-go clubs in Angeles City. Now he is being held in a cell, 50 miles away in the capital Manila.
Carmela Pelayo, who is thought to be 13, believed she would be working as a waitress...but she was soon put under pressure to sleep with men. "I was told to go with this man and have sex with him if he wanted it," she said.
"I was a virgin and didn't want to go, but I was told that I would lose my job if I didn't do it, so I went with him.
"We went back to his hotel and had sex. It was my first time and it was not nice. I was very upset and felt dirty. I cried and didn't know what to do. I did not want to go back to the club but I had no money.
"I was told there were hundreds of other girls who would take my place, so I did what they told me."
Carmela told police a white man had paid £17.30 - including the £6 bonus - to the bar madame. "But the man only gave me 20 pesos (just 23p) to take a tricycle taxi to my home," she said.
Carmela said she saw Agnew every night at Nero's Forum - one of five clubs he owned - but never spoke to him. The day-to-day running of the bar was left to madam Shirley Belludo.
Another bar girl at the club said: "Ms Belludo could be nasty to girls who did not want to have sex with the men. Most of the girls in the bars were there because they are not educated and it is the only way they can earn money. But some, especially the young ones, are conned into taking waitress jobs and then made to have sex. If they say no she would shout at them and abuse them. I have seen her hit a young girl.
"Mr Agnew owns the clubs and he is quite nice. But he left everything to Ms Belludo and a dozen other madams. They have total power."
Mercy Ables, who police believe is just 13, told them in a statement she was paid 500 pesos (£5.75) for sex. She said: "I go with a customer, usually to other bars and then he will use me or we will have sex."
Prostitution is against the law in the Philippines and it is illegal for foreigners to "be in a room or cubicle with a minor who is not their own child". But often police turn a blind eye to Western men paying young girls for sex.
Agnew's empire was raided after relatives of two teenagers claimed the girls were being held prisoner and made to have sex with tourists. He was inside another of his clubs, the Blue Nile Executive, when the police stormed in and found British, Australian and American men watching young girls dressed in bikinis gyrating on the stage.
Police took away 11 girls for medical checks to see if they were under 18. They discovered six of them were between 11 and 13 years old. One had not even begun to have periods.
Special prosecutor Jose Carlitoz Licas of the Bureau of Immigration and Deportation said: "The girls were under age, pre-pubescent in nature, some barely adolescents."
Police chief Efren Yalung Miranda added: "We draw the line at weirdos - people going after children or selling them. We will not tolerate that kind of behaviour." The islands are a magnet for so-called "whorists" - a growing group of men who travel to pay for cheap sex. They swap tips on the internet and one website recommends Agnew's five clubs, which line one road of the Balibago red-light district.
One man writing about a visit to Agnew's club Misty's said: "I found four girls in this bar who were the best looking in town. They seem to be doing good business and I love the schoolgirl outfits."
Agnew, who served as a sergeant for two years in the RUC, has made a fortune since moving to the Philippines in 1996.
The success of his clubs has enabled him to set up home in a four-bedroom villa which is surrounded by a wall and guarded by armed security. He has his own driver who used to ferry him around in a classic Thunderbird car,with water buffalo horns. Agnew, who is separated from his wife by whom he has a six-year-old daughter, is regarded as "a kind man" being a regular donor to nearby Ahay Ampunan orphanage.
Agnew's parents Hugh and Kathleen were stunned by news of his arrest. Hugh said: "Richard's not great at keeping in touch and he's hard to reach. This is the first we have heard of any problems. We are very anxious to contact him now to find out what is going on." Kathleen added: "This is awful news."
The couple, who live on the outskirts of Larne in Ballygally, have now put in an urgent call to the British Embassy in Manila in an effort to get more information and get in contact with their son.
Hugh said: "He's been building up his club business since he went to the Philippines seven years ago. I visited him once in the early days but I haven't seen him for six years. He told us all was going well and he employed about 180 people."
Last night a Foreign Office spokesman said: "We can confirm that Richard Agnew was arrested.
"He has been charged with employing girls under the age of 18 in his go-go bars. He is currently being detained in jail."
Next week Agnew will learn whether or not he will face a more serious charge of trafficking in females.
Philippines Congresswoman Liza Maza said she feared Agnew would be thrown out of the country to prevent an embarrassing trial.
Agnew says he is innocent. His lawyers argue that he left the day-to-day running of the club to his madams and he believed all the girls were over 18.
THE MENACE OF WHORISMTHOUSANDS of British perverts travel abroad each year on so-called "whore tours" to have cheap sex with young girls - many of them under-aged.
Major destinations for sex tourists include Bangkok in Thailand, Angeles City in the Phillippines, Cuba and the Cambodian capital of Phnom Penh. British cash has fuelled a huge rise in the number of pick-up joints in many poverty-stricken countries.
The Government is so concerned that last year Home Secretary David Blunkett unveiled moves to crack down on the hardcore sex tourists. Now anybody convicted of a sex offence abroad will have to sign on the sex offenders' register when they return to the UK.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:21 am on Sep. 7, 2003
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thaifun
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Sorry to jump on this forum late but I have reposted here from another board I posted this on.
I will also start a new thread "Cebu Info"
CEBU BAR REVIEW
Every time I come to the Philippines I normally end up in Cebu for a weekend and this trip was no exception. Over 2 or 3 nights I visited a number of bars. Here are my reviews. The first night I visited the Mango Ave Area and had somebody with me so wasn’t able to ascertain bar fines and expected morning tips.
MANGO AVENUE AREA
PAPILLION; Very nice décor, very similar to the one in Makati and ex Papillion in Angeles (now renamed Angels) All red velvet to resemble a cocktail lounge.
San Miguel beer 95 pesos, 2 customers with lots of girl but mainly below 5 except for one or two. Also one Billyboy in attendance
BLACK STUMP; Old shakeys pizza restaurant, now a bikini bar with a light striptease on stage. Girls never remove essential clothing. Lots of customers with most girls in the 5 to 6 range. San Miguel 50 pesos.
B.J. BIKINI BAR; Another bikini bar which I though had the best lookers, 6 to 7 range. Light striptease on stage. San Miguel 55 pesos. Only 2 customers.
CAMARI BIKINI BAR: Didn’t visit
EXOTICA BAR: Didn’t visit
JONES AVENUE AREA
SILVERDOLLARBAR; A popular bar just around the corner from Osmena Feunte Circle. It was 1am Monday morning when I visited and there were around 5-6 customers. There are always one or two dancers on stage. 6-7 lookers. San Miguel 60pesos. 650 pesos Barfine. 160 peso lady drinks. GRO I was talking to wanted to go now, Asked her how much. Up to you. She was tired so could of got away between 500-1000 pesos.
FIREHOUSE; Cousins of the Manila operation incl the fire pole. Very similar setup to Manila except there is less girls visible. However there were at least 15 girls available and 3 only customers. 7-9 lookers. San Miguel: 70 pesos. Barfine: 700 pesos. Lady drink: 175 pesos. Tip to girl: 2000 pesos set fee although I’m sure it could be negotiable on a quiet night.
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LAS VEGAS CLUB; Wanted to visit but it was closed. Whether that was for Sunday I don’t know.
THUNDERDOME; Didn’t visit this trip but always found its standards better than most clubs in Cebu.
SANGIAKO/PALAEZ STREET AREA
PINAI BIKINI BAR: A little upstairs bar with bikini strip that gets down to the full Monty. One other foreigner in the bar and I hope he wasn’t being fleeced. He was buying drinks for three ladies and had about 12 lady drinks on his table. A dancer sat with me and wanted to go Barfine. When she got on stage and stripped right down that was a good enough reason not too. 5-6 lookers. San Miguel: 50 pesos. Lady drinks: 200 pesos. Barfine: (all inclusive) 1600 pesos.
MANNYS: Wanted to visit but it was closed. Almost 2am Monday morning. On a walk by the next day I am not even sure it is still in existence.
CENTURY HOTEL: Visited last trip but didn’t visit this trip.
Note; There are many small bikini type bars in this area but I would advise to watch your bar tab if you start buying lady drinks.
Country Mall Area
JAGUAR KARAOKE BAR
I visited this karaoke bar on the assumption that there was a bald show here but it turned out negative. The interior is very nice and obviously Chinese run with red lighting everywhere.
There were probably around 30 girls waiting in leather sofas wanted to sing her lungs to you in private rooms. Couldn’t understand the girls would all go upstairs and come back in five-ten minutes. Maybe a customer wanted to choose from the fishbowl. Looks expensive but turned out cheaper than I expected. However the mamasan wanted to sell me a plate of peanuts for 100 pesos.
Lookers: 7-8, San Miguel 65 pesos plus service charges
LapuLapu area.
I have never been to lapulapu before so these clubs are a first for me. Please bear in mind that it was a Monday evening and was lightly raining so attendances are probably better during the later week.
T-BACK BAR
When I went in there were two tables of Filipinos and myself, but later on foreigners increased to two and filopinos tables decreased to one. There is a bikini show with light stripping depending on the dancer at the time. But there is a gay Filipino who does short skits between the dancers and they are quite funny with a horse trying to give him a blowjob. Lookers: 5-6, San Miguel 60 pesos, Lady entry fee: 100 pesos
BUTTERFLY MINIBAR
I was the only one there until a table of Filipino males turned up. They also do bikini shows here and they do in fact strip to their birthday suits. The dancers I saw here seemed to know how to at least dance and move their bodies. Lookers: 6-7, San Miguel: 40 pesos but there seems to be an entry fee of 25 pesos.
Expat Bars
OUR PLACE
On the corner of Palaez and Sangianko Streets. Little upstairs expat bar that has been there for years. Nice ambience and they cook the best home fries in the Philippines
KIWI LODGE
In Tudtud Street in Mobolo. Is a small hotel catering for expats and travelers? Has a downstairs bar that serves up a consistent quality. Only problem with the rooms (could be a good thing) that no rooms have a telephone. Very friendly establishment.
Short-Time Hotels
There are numerous spread over the city but Hotel Sogo, Q5 and Queensland come to mine. Hotel Sogo will do two hour duration for 144 pesos.
Boarding Houses/ Pimps/ Taxi girls
(A) Depending which way you want to go. These girls that are offered at each place are essentially short time but can be negotiated longtime. Cruise lower Jones Avenue/Sangianko Avenue/Palaez Street and many pimps will approach you, as well as a couple of woman selling goods in lower Jones Avenue will also have woman available. A couple of freelancers may be wondering around.
They will take you to a boarding house; you choose a girl and handover the required amount which also includes the sex with the girl.
(B) Similar to the pimps but they will tell you to wait somewhere and within minutes a taxi will turn up with three girls inside. You choose one girl (or two), the other girls hop out, you conclude the money before the pimp gets the taxi or after the girl is chosen, and you continue on your way to your hotel where you are staying or to a short-time hotel nearby.
(C) This way will save you money, if you know where to go. Go to Junquera Street (off P Del Rosario St by the big university) and where you see this alleyway beside this shop, walk up to the end and there will be a mama sun with 10-20 girls available for you to choose from. Mostly these are the same girls you will buy off the pimps or by taxi girl method. They are university girls without enough funds in the 18-22 year age bracket. Negotiate directly with the mamasun and cut out the pimps take.
There are other boarding houses nearby but they are usually less education girls from the provinces.
GOOD LUCK
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:53 pm on Nov. 14, 2003
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