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seajohn
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Quote from LocalYocal: I'll just let the BGs in LOS know where to find their next mark, LOL
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You gonna start pimpin', LY? Post the menu.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:53 pm on July 4, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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LY,, Mrs Gibson was getting 15K BHT per month plus a company apartment,,,,,living quite comfortably with very few major costs. ( no car etc) and sending home 8K per month. She worked for a Japanese company on the outskirts of BKK, she is university educated ( Maha sarakarm uni) but her marks where not exactly great.
So it AIN'T THAT HARD.
ma9, a decent Pent4 (2.4 ghz) 512 ram 40gig hard drive selss here in Aus for around 6,000 BHT. These would be more than adequate for any Uni type processing or internet surfing etc etc. Maybe I will throw a couple in my bag next trip ( always arrive with empty bag and renew my ward-robe).
Perhaps LY can get me 10 LT's for each 
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:42 am on July 5, 2006
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ma9
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 9:43 am on July 5, 2006
I'll just let the BGs in LOS know where to find their next mark, LOL
Wonderful idea.
If they are lovely, honest, fun, and give great head, I am an excellent customer.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:43 am on July 5, 2006
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LocalYokul
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Quote: from Mel Gibson on 4:43 pm on July 5, 2006
15K BHT per month plus a company apartment,,,,,living quite comfortably with very few major costs. ( no car etc) and sending home 8K per month. She worked for a Japanese company
well, first of all, that's about twice as much a fresh graduate female will make, maybe the company being Japanese had something to do with it
and most of those fresh graduates also are gonna have to pay their own rent
sounds like she just got lucky
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 3:51 am on July 5, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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Her luck ran out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
she met me and then married me,, silly girl.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:54 am on July 5, 2006
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patinbangkok
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Quote: from LocalYokul on 4:52 pm on July 5, 2006
I used to also think that this was the case, however:
Two friends of mine graduated this year (from an international high school, if I remember correctly - definitely *not* from university!) ; we discussed how much they could ask for at job interviews.
I was shocked when they said they were not going for anything less than 12k, and told them to keep on dreaming. Guess what? They got 14k - first job *ever*!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:20 am on July 5, 2006
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LocalYokul
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depends on their profession chosen also
but I know that accountants and marketing folk here in CM can expect a measly 8k/month for starting out
and of course if being located in BKK, that has a variance on the wage too
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:30 am on July 5, 2006
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Joe Wood
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My sincere apologies to those of you who have come to this thread and want to read about the exchanges that happen in the Star of Light with the delightful ladies who populate (?) the bar.
To you, I would say, just scroll back and read some of the excellent posts by ma9, sirtitus, seajohn and other equally passionate disciples - disregard the religious associations that you may hold for some words used herein. The engagements described have nothing to do with orthodoxy, sets of rules or an organised movement (?), although some moves demand a considerable degree of energy output.
This discussion about potential income earned by Thai girls in Thailand was sparked off by factorx stating that the circumstances, or some of them, which surround a working girl's life were the result of the "vicious cycle of poverty" found here in this country, which was then answered by Mel Gibson who countered by stating his opinion, that Thailand was......"no longer a truly POOR country.".........and that....."Job opportunities abound in honest work for reasonable pay ( reasonable in terms of Thai cost of living). "
And he gave instances of this as proof of his statement.
LY, who comes from a different range of experiences and travel patterns in this country disagreed, and in my opinion, rightly so.
A number of posts tumbled in from generous contributors as this is something which does occupy or cross our minds from time to time. And in the hot burly nights of neon lights and the go-go bars or sauntering through the denim sheathed thighs at MBK one can easily forget the backgrounds and family life of a lot of these girls.
Mel follows up his statement that Thailand is not a poor country but that "20 years ago you would have been correct,, but it's just not true anymore.The hookers working now do so because of greed for money ( 90%) not because they will starve.They "want" that new mobile phone,, "want that gold etc etc. They are NOT working for food."
Mel posts some very sensible entries on the board, but with this I feel that I must disagree. I have always got the impression that he is widely travelled and is knowledgeable of Thailand. I think that I am right.
And I respect him for a lot of the positions that he has taken on this board in many posts.
But I have to draw the line here.
If you move in certain circles in a society, maybe one only gets a glimpse of certain facets that are close to one's movements and experience.
But if you move into the interior, whether rural or urban, the picture is wider and clearer, not that I have that clearer vision. I am as ignorant as the next guest in this country.
But when I talk with factory and company girls who are lucky to get 3,000 to 6,000 baht per month,, without stoppages, and with overtime, I find it hard to imagine that they have enough to send back to their family villages.
When I talk with extremely attractive ex-University girls who are compelled to drift from job to job, who get employed but who are quickly told that if they wish to continue in the company and / or wish to climb higher, that they must make themselves available to all management and visiting customers on any night and especially at week-ends, one understands that some jobs are not so 'reasonable' nor is it 'honest' work.
But, of course, yes, I agree that some girls on the game are sharks and will take you to the cleaners if you give them the chance, but they are few and far between.
If you spend some time away from the cities, and live in the rural communities that have family members engaged in the P4P world, you will witness the poverty first hand, week in, week out.
And it is a scramble for survival and an endeavour to provide food. Yes, there are the trappings of a mobile phone and good fashionable clothes, but these are the hallmarks and the tools ( or should I say equipment [?] of the trade.)
Rural families and extended families and in some instances whole small communities depend on one working girl's income, and over time, lean more and more heavily on her.
Meeting bank demands to pay past family debts for farm implements, sickness bills in the family, accidents, food, communal celebrations and funerals and weddings that have to be financed somehow, the educational costs for school and university of a brother or sister or cousin are all looked upon with urgency. The family members don't have knowledge of how this money is earned, or if they have a rough idea, they do not want to know the details. They just know the girl as a good source of income. And if she fails one month, then that is bad for her in the eyes of her family.
Looking at farm workers, who, say, produce Aloe vera, a product that goes towards the making of products world-wide in cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, medicines, ointments, hair care etc, worth millions in every continent of the world and seeing the 50 baht per day being given to the farm worker, is a silent scream of inequality in communities that cannot support themselves without help and assistanc from their city-living relative.
Over 85% of Thailand's land, property and capital is owned by only 3% of the population, although this is somewhat improving, though slightly. And Mel is right when he says that, for the affluent in society, Thaiand is not poor. Definitely not.......for them. But that is only true for the 3% of the 'haves'....not the 'have nots'.
Outside of the 3%, there are many, many other people who are also Thai and who grapple with the viciousness of poverty every day of their lives. Let's not kid ourselves. We see only the tip of an ice-berg.
Without intendinging for this to be a sob story............let me finish by saying......
And now, on with the sucking.
and..........
Have a good day.
The Star of Light is excellent.
May it shine on me all of my days and on those of you who choose to bask in its provided and many pleasures.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:30 pm on July 5, 2006
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Anhol Ding
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Where you have a situation in which a lady or girl is employed legitimately for between 13,000 and 20,000 baht per month in a company in whatever capacity, but is expected to make her body available for any passing line manager on any night of the week or any visiting customer who may or, more likely, may not tip, in order to keep and secure her 'high' salary and legit employment position, it is not difficult to understand the logic of her thinking that if she seeks alternative work as a working girl who puts her body through exactly the same endurance and sets of dangers but who will earn three or four times as much, then one begins to understand a little more of some of the reasons behind some of the choice made by these girls.
In other words, if she is going to be exploited, used and abused, she might as well get the higher financial return that she can get, as opposed to settling for a 'respectable' salary and a life that is not her own.
So maybe there are elements of 'saving face' and aspects of personal freedom and the right to choose, in some choices, that we barely begin to consider when we use such dismissive terms to describe such an occupation as that of a working girl.
Just my two baht worth.
And this is relevant to the Star of Light.
These girls have had to make choices for a variety of reasons and have found themselves here. If they could earn the same elsewhere without the risks to health, then they would all jump at the opportunity.
Please don't tell me otherwise.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:41 pm on July 5, 2006
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Jazzmusicman
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Joe and Anhol,
Brilliant observations, and extremely well stated. Truth with a compassionate point of view....
Thank you
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:26 pm on July 5, 2006
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