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ThaidUp
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Yeah the atmosphere at CJ needs some improvement of Suaron sitting at a table feeding his face while debating gun control while a SM gang bang is going on, not to mention all the dogs barking outside the house.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:44 pm on Nov. 22, 2006
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FIB
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Some memories of CJ, he?
But do not confuse the sweet and sour taste of decadence (as in Baudelaire, Lautréamont, Huysmans or Wilde) with downright vulgarity and cheapness trying desesparately to pass for sophistication...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 7:27 pm on Nov. 22, 2006
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submale
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FIB: Sorry to upset you champ. My view is simple: what you see on the dungeon web sites is what you get whether it be Midori, CJs, Thai Domina or Sara's, namely, 30 year-old plus (and I am being conservative), weary, veterens of largely, American bdsm spin and all smellier - becuse of age and misuse - than a Bangkok klong. And God knows, I've been down there. What you have at BarBar is young and fresh and original. No wonder the Japanese subs love it so much. It is amoral and points the way forward to a dinstinctively Thai path to domination with all attention paid to customer service, happiness and the elevation of Thai youth and beauty. Goodness, I love the place!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:08 pm on Nov. 28, 2006
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FIB
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It's a personal matter for you isn't it?
That said, Barbar being the "Thai path to domination" had me ROTFL. There might be something to this, actually, in a twisted way: could it be that Barbar is to real BDSM what those cheap imitations of Rolex one can find in Patpong are to real Rolex watches? Thanks for the good laugh anyway.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:29 pm on Nov. 28, 2006
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submale
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Pretty ordinary analogy, but I have at least cleared up one point as far as your identity goes. You could not be Sauron for the great one has too much wit for you.
I only ask the objective readers, in particular, the ones who have PMed me, to check out these places for themselves. Barbar is good, very, very good. The photos on the site reflect the quality of girls I met at this bar. Demonia is also very good. However, the Castle is - as I reported - overrepresented with LBs. Check out their photos if you don't believe me and pay careful attention to the tell-tale Adam's apple covers. Apply the stickman test and you come up with LADY BOY, LADY BOY, well used lady, and LADY BOY. As for the Bangkok dungeons - well I should not criticise any part of the bdsm scene in Bangkok. Good luck to you, FIB if you are happy. However, please refrain from posting bulls@@t about BarBar because I have been there and it's a magnificent bdsm establishment.
Finally, let me say lest anyone misunderstand me, LBs do have a place in the bdsm scene. Two or three per fetish house is a positive in my eyes. My only concern is that their identities are too often concealed, indeed deliberately hidden in order to fool the punters. This also occurs in Japan.
Finally, one further point concerning mature women: if a proprieter, a beautiful Thai woman, wants to whip sub flesh, I am all for it. The business women behind Bar Bar and Demonia are all class and extremely hot. I would die for the beautiful, rich madams at BarBar and Demonia. However, such classy mature women are seldom to be found in the Thai dungeons. Rather, what you find are listless, bar veteran rejects with poor teeth and breath to kill.
And FIB thinks I've got a personal agenda
The website for BarBar is here: http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:50 pm on Nov. 29, 2006
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lucky6666
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Submale you must have some equity in this BarBar dont you? I mean nothing else could explain your descibing this place as good, very good. Or the girls as anything but old, ugly and worst of all bored.
Sorry, I dont know Sauron wrap from Reynolds wrap. But this place was an overpriced bore.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:43 pm on Nov. 29, 2006
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FIB
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Quote: from submale on 9:14 am on Nov. 30, 2006
Going ad hominem is your last resort, he? not to mention your confusing drivel about ladyboys, mature women, seedy wannabe bdsm bars like demonia and the castle... oh, and I never talked about you having a "personal agenda". I would not call this confusion the reflexion of an agenda of any sort. I just talked of "personal matter", which is different.
Anyway, the point is not to engage into a pseudo-war between the real dungeons in Thailand and Barbar - that exists only in your mind. This thread is about Barbar and it seems that reports about the place are to say the least mixed. Barbar is in Patpong and in Barbar, as of now, the seedy Patpong side is winning on the bdsm side. You don't create a scene by putting a bit of leather here and there and by putting a whip in the hands of girls who have so obviously no understanding of the mindset behind bdsm and even less inclination to learn about it.
In its present state, to present Barbar as a genuine BDSM place just does a disservice to BDSM in Thailand. I hope the people behind it realize it and will do something to change it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:19 am on Nov. 30, 2006
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submale
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Quote: from FIB on 3:43 pm on Nov. 30, 2006
ad hominem - hmm - well, I would have thought the possibility of a dungeon owner writing reviews of an alternative bdsm venue was quite relevant and not attacking the man at all.
However, we really don't need to have this debate. If you are a reader of this forum and interested in bdsm and willing to part with 900 baht for your first drink (a small token in bdsm terms), go and check out the place yourself. If you don't like it, don't go back. The cheapest entry to any of the main dungeons in Bangkok is $200 US and there are no refunds there. By way of contrast, for less than $25 dollars entry fee, go into BarBar and make up your own mind. I am more than confident that all genuine bdsm enthusiasts will love it.
As for the lucky devil, lucky 666 or is it Robert of the nondescript web page, let me tell you that I wish I did have equity in BarBar. The place was going gang busters the last time I was there. In fact, sometimes I wonder whether I can really help the place at all. It is a great success already!
However, let us have peace. The trolls, the tight ars#s, the managers of dungeons and the amused straight guys will all continue to make their own minds up irregardless of anything I write.
Speaking as a saucy sub, I guess flames are ok so long as I'm in the centre of the fire. And believe me, in spite of some rather nasty agendas, the message is getting out about the most exciting house of fetish in Bangkok, BarBar.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:02 am on Nov. 30, 2006
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seajohn
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Quote: from FIB on 9:51 am on Nov. 23, 2006
sweet and sour taste of decadence... Lautréamont
Whoa! Maybe like a sun sized lemon opposed to all the sugar cane in the Pacific.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:48 am on Nov. 30, 2006
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lucky6666
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Hey submale, sorry for the nondescript web page. I use that for posting pictures for Mom back in Topeka. I never intended to post the BarBar of Jade photos for Mom!
But if you want I can give you the password for the more descript pictures.
BTW - you seem to have a bit of an attitude for a sub
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:21 am on Nov. 30, 2006
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