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ThaidUp
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Well Debaucher does not seem as much of a debaucher, but more of a White Knight. I suggest your retribution be saved for woman beaters and child molesters.
It is surprising how many woman enjoy these activities and equally surprising how many men are unable to provide their satisfaction becuase of the White Knight syndrome. So they are driven to seek their satisfaction either by finding another partner or having a Gik on the side.
Where do you draw the line for degradation COF, CIM, Anal sex? The lines should be discussed between partners and respected.
Maybe you proud Daddy's do not want to fathom your daughters in a throws of wild sex with another partner, but I am she is equally revolted by old Daddy carrying it on with girls of her own age.
Nothing wrong with admininistering a good ass whipping and nipple pinching to the girls that love it and I am just the Debaucher to do it. 
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:01 pm on Dec. 13, 2007
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Debaucher
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As I wrote before....."What two consenting adults enter into within a loving, caring and respecting relationship is up to them.
We are not usually talking about such circumstances here on these pages."
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Accustions directed towards individuals can be flung, but I'm not interested whether ThaidUp likes his arse being whipped or his nipples twisted.
I agree with him when he says that "The lines should be discussed between partners and respected."
But we are not talking about partners and intimate, personal relationships here. This is, if you haven't noticed it before, is a P4P forum.
And FIB is right when he writes : "Note that consent is a pretty complex matter, which needs a full awareness of the possible consequences, both physical and psychological, of the activities to be engaged into. And yes, the involvement of a monetary transaction does affect the issue of consent.
What needs to be assessed in the particular case of Demonia is: do the girls acting as sub and being paid in exchange for that, give their full informed consent to what is happening to them, and are they sufficiently assured that what's going to happen is restricted to the safe, sane and consensual boundary. "
The answer is, they do not. You know that, ThaidUp.
Be honest at least with yourself.
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If you think that there is full and informed consent to these acts in a P4P context,the outcome of which is unknown to one of the participants, then think again buddy.
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Yes, we all have, to some degree or other at least skimmed these waters in our personal lives, if not, for some, been fully immersed for years.
Don't confuse what you think a man can purchase from a girl is in any way related to the real thing. It aint.
As for your reference to my daughters, you don't know them and you don't know me so I don't see how you can leap to assumptions merely to defend and comfort a bruised ego.
I rejoice in the knoweldge of the full sexual, loving life that both my daughters have and enjoy with their respective partners, whatever each entails.
So, you are way off target there. But nice try.
As for me, you don't know what I do and you don't know anyone I associate with, so what gives you the right to say anything personal about me ? Nothing whatsoever. So, go nurse the bruise and maybe nanny will let you out to play if you are a good boy.
And yes, you are the real, greatest debaucher.
Feel better now ?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:39 pm on Dec. 13, 2007
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ThaidUp
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Don't worry no bruise egos here, but I get a laugh out of the mindset of the white knights always wanting to protect the innocent P4P TG's as they not know what they are getting into. For the most part they know exactly what they are getting into and play to the punters to extract as much money as possible from them.
Now for the girls that work in these types of bars they have a choice of many other normal P4P bars and gravitate towards these establishments because they enjoy it.
In talking to many of these girls that work in both these fetish bars and normal bars there are more dangerous situtations that the girls encounter over the coarse of doing business at the so called 'normal' bars. I always like that the kept the price of admission high at these places to kept of the beer bar guy in the wife beater T-shirt who is more of a threat to a P4P TG in his drunken rage than for a guy who wants to embelish in some fetish fun.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:58 pm on Dec. 13, 2007
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submale
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I'm masochist - so not into belting women - but I'm with you on this one. BDSM is almost always a matter of consent and more especially in the commercial sector.
I also get a little annoyed when debauch white knights try and impose their own very limited sexual preferences on everyone else. It might surprise some of you that there are many masochistic women - and perhaps even more lifestyle players than men.
A sub (male or female) wants to surrender to another person and to adopt a passive position in sexual relations. In one sense, masochism can be seen as a normal extension of a certain type of male and female desire and is often expressed in a normal sexual context. Does it have anything to do with reproduction? No, but nor does homosexual play, fellatio, cunnilingus or - for FFS - kissing. So for the do-gooders on the page, please spare us your moral missiles on what constitutes normal sexual desire.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 12:11 pm on Dec. 16, 2007
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LiamOZ
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Submale,
That is interesting.
My girl certainly wants to be dominated, and totally surrenders herself to me if I am willing to play the rough game...and it takes some persuasion by her.
She is not docile though, but really wants to be told or signalled what to do by a slap or a push here & there.
I recall only once when she herself became demanding and pulled my head into her crotch for a very rough DATY for me...she said sorry afterward ha ha.
Seriously though she's the one who would normally want me to grab her by her hair and force her into a HJ.
Different for me, but as I mentioned in a prior post I am starting to dig it.
Regards,
Liam
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:23 pm on Dec. 16, 2007
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don5252
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just like to say congratulations Liam, I think you've hit the jackpot, maybe time to practice some knot tying, bet she would really enjoy a little rope work, DB, doesn't Billy Graham have a website, might be a better place for you
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:03 am on Dec. 17, 2007
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LiamOZ
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Thanks Don,
Quite a few guys say I have hit the jackpot with this one. I have to admit though, when she first started this stuff, which was about third tour with her, it kind of jolted me, there had been no sign before then, she was very demure.
I asked her about it, you know, "why you so different?" Her answer was "because I did not know you before".
I am appreciative though.
Liam
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:23 am on Dec. 17, 2007
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don5252
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does she have a friend looking for a nice farang? kidding, good luck to you
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:34 am on Dec. 17, 2007
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submale
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Quote: from LiamOZ on 3:38 pm on Dec. 17, 2007
I agree. You are a very lucky man and I am happy for you and your partner. In fact, it would be quite interesting to meet up with you one day.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:37 am on Dec. 17, 2007
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LiamOZ
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Don,
Who knows? I'll ask, she has friends but a real loner as well, likes music & reading etc. and "not drink whisky"
I am really only just getting to know the real her now. Under every layer there seems a surprise...all pleasant so far.
Submale,
I return 10-22/1, you never know who you run into in BKK.
Think I may have taken thread off topic, but was interesting, thanks for your comments. This is all quite new to me, even at my age 50+.
Liam
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:01 pm on Dec. 17, 2007
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