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michaelb
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I've always wanted to try it - do bars in Thailand serve it?
Thanks,
Michaelb
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Posted on: 8:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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seubeu
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I never saw it in Thailand, but I think that one of CJ's business ventures involved something with Absinthe.
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Posted on: 9:04 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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griffin
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rumours have it that you will find it in q-bar once you are asking for it at the bar!
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Posted on: 9:42 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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MrJoe
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Yes, as CJ / Sauron seems to be absent lately, I suggest you contact him. I know that he is involved in its manufacture.
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Posted on: 9:42 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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TimidGuy
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You can get Absinthe in Israel, but I hear they refined the "go nutz" component out of it so you won't lose your mind anymore. I assume you can find it elsewhere as well.
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Posted on: 10:02 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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FIB
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If you visit Chateau Jade, Sauron is known to sometimes let his guest sample his latest absinthe production... for connoisseurs only !
Do I remember well, or do i mix the souvenirs of several visits ? But here is what comes to my mind: slightly intoxicated, dreaming the dreams of absinthe, in a soft bed of black silk, next to very beautiful and very cruel dominatrices...
Is this "les fleurs du mal" ? (the flowers of evil, by Baudelaire)
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Posted on: 11:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
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Sauron
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First of all, 'absinthe' covers a multitude of sins, some old and some modern.
Absinthe is an aperitif made from anise, fennel, grande wormwood, and other herbs, properly by steeping the herbs in strong alcohol and then distilling the steep. The selection and mix of the herbs, and the conduct of the steep and the distillation, all affect the product.
Absinthe is bottled most traditionally at 68 to 72 degree (% abv) which is 1/2 the proof. This is strong drink and is not consumed neat, but is watered down in the glass c.4 or 5 parts water to 1 part absinthe.
TimidGuy, there is NO 'lose-your-mind' component in absinthe and there never was. Those are old lies told by the European 'Blue Cross' prohibitionists. The compound you are thinking of is thujone and it's just a simple monoterpene like menthol, pinene, camphor etc. It occurs in wormwood (Artemisia absinthium) from which the liquor gets its name. But it also is the main part of the essential oil of sage, the culinary spice. No one goes nuts from eating pork sausages. Anyway the distillation removes all but traces of thujone, which boils at 201 C. compared to alcohol/water mixture c.70/30 choiling at c.78 to 92 C. By EU law, modern absinthe can contain not more than 10 parts per million thujone.
On the market today there are a few good and MANY awful absinthes. Avoid anything made in Czech Republic. The best on the present market are Emile Pernot 68, La Fee 68, Pernod 68. Of the Spanish absinthes only Segarra deserves a mention. Portuguese absinthes and their Brazilian spin-offs are wretched.
Most modern absinthes are not distilled but are mixed from essential oils, water, alcohol, and dyes. That is why they suck.
A hundred-sum years ago, the same was true. There were a tiny number of real absinthes (Pernod Fils, E.Pernot, Berger etc.) and there were hundreds of shoddy, sometimes toxic imitations mostly made up by Marseilles gangsters,
The main reason absinthe was banned (1905-1915) was to restore the wine industry which was just recovering from the phylloxera devastations of the 1850s. Also to sober up everyone just in time for the Great War. Anyway they banned ALL HERBAL LIQUEURS not just absinthe and that is the tip-off. The commercial rivalries behind the curtain are similar to the struggle between the brewers of beer and the gin-makers in England some decades before. Gin of course is a herbal liquor, not fermented at all, but distilled from alcohol and herbs (mostly juniper berries and orris root).
The history and mythology of absinthe has been subject of several books, and the return of absinthe has inspired Hollywood to cameo the drink in several films, usually in a hysterically hyped fashion as if it was/is hallucinogenic. It's not. It's about as mind bending as a G&T. Tastes better, though, in my opinion.
Absinthe is like a very high quality artisnal pastis but with more complex flavor and green rather than muddy brown color. Properly the color comes from the final and most difficult manufacturing step, which provides finishing flavors, and the peridot green color is an accidental but characteristic side effect.
Our own product, several labels of JADE absinthe, will be on the market in 2003 and is the first truly authentic Belle Epoque premium absinthe to be marketed since 1915. Our company, Surayoke (which means Jade Liqueurs) Co.,Ltd. was set up 2.5 years ago to do this, but, we can't do so in Thailand due to the lingering liquor monopoly. So we must go elsewhere.
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Posted on: 12:00 am on Nov. 20, 2002
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Sauron
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An honorable mention also goes to the various Swiss bootleg La Bleu absinthes which are still produced in the Neichatel area, but you need to have friends there to find the real stuff.
The French equivalent in called Haut Doubs #9 around Pontarlier and same caveats apply. These are good but simply bootleg products which have survived intact sinthe the 1910 Swiss and 1915 French bans.
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Posted on: 12:10 am on Nov. 20, 2002
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Skip
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What'd he say? *teasing*
First time i've come in contact with "artisnal pastis." Google says it's "artisanal pastis" and even then it doesn't tell me what 'that' is. Most of the page hits came back in French anyway. I want to equate it to a premium liquer, such as Chambord but I know all ready it's beyond that. Right, or Wrong?
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Posted on: 12:12 am on Nov. 20, 2002
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michaelb
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Thanks everyone for your feedback - so I guess the answer to availability is ask a few bartenders if they have it even if not published on a menu.
Sauron, thank you especially for such excellent background information. And Skip, you may find this site very interesting (as may you, Sauron, as it is a part of an Absinthe web ring). On a side note, I would love to try your product, just not into Dom's. If there is a way to sample your fine product without also "tasting the whip", so to speak, let me know..
Thanks again all,
Michaelb
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Posted on: 12:20 am on Nov. 20, 2002
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