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cyborg
Bros, I know the US standard TV is an NTSC format system but if you are playing the DVD on a computer or a DVD player through the progressive scan outputs to a high def progressive scan TV does this mean the PAL/NTSC issue is a moot point? I want to pick up a few movies while here but am not sure if they will play on my comhome in US.

Anyone know for sure??

I know that there is the next issue of regional coding of the DVD...Do most DVDs found in LOS have Asian regional coding or do they tend to be without regional coding??

ANy info would be appreciated...

I am hoping to buy a copy of BEautiful Boxer in particular cuz it wont be available at home...need to know if it will work or not...

THX,
Cyborg


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Posted on: 11:04 am on Nov. 25, 2004
DrLove
It is my idea that your DVD player should support conversion from Pal into NTSC format.

Most of the commercial movies in Thailand have Region 3. Most if not all illegal copies have Region 0 (no region).

Check also if English subtitles are featured. Most of the Thai DVDs don't come with English subtitles anymore.


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Posted on: 11:23 am on Nov. 25, 2004
Mr Alan
I don't known about the specific DVD that you want, but it has not been released in the West yet, then they copy you buy in LOS may have been shot with a video camera in a movie theatre (not exactly high quality).


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Posted on: 11:50 am on Nov. 25, 2004
hzink
While DrLove is right that a DVD *should* support this conversion (and for the rest of the world it's true), this may or may not be so with a USA bought/used player.

Due to the backwards restrictions, most players in the US are locked to region 1/NTSC - and since most American's don't even know that things are different outside their own borders, hardly anyone knows it matters.

The good news is that most manufacturers are smart, meaning that most players *DO* support multi-region and PAL/NTSC conversion - but they need to be 'convinced'. The majority of players supports enabling this feature through various codes typed in via the remote control.

Ironically, most ultra-cheap players are better at supporting this than most high-end players, but if you type in your player's model number into Google, along with the word 'multi-region' or 'zone free', you should come up with plenty of links to help you out.

Hope this helps,

Harry


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Posted on: 12:52 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
Ronnie Raygun
But must the TV monitor be PAL-compatible?

I have perhaps a related problem. I bought several DVDs & VCDs in Hong Kong & Thailand. Some play on my Philips DVDR but others only play on my Mac; when I put the Mac compatible DVDs in my Philips, the movie plays on my TV monitor but it appears as if the horizontal hold doesn't work. The only difference I can tell between these DVDs is that the ones produced by Universe Laser (U333) play on the Philips, and those produced by Mei Ah Entertainment do not. Both are based in China. I see no PAL or NTSC labelling. But perhaps its the TV?

Edit: Thanks guys. FYI:
> Most of the DVDs I get in HK are legit. Some great sales at HMV!
> Harry - I have a Philips DVDR-985. I'm guessing it's less a conversion problem and more of a TV monitor problem. Oh hell, I'm really not sure.
> In which case I'll eventually need to address the TV, and in the meantime watch some DVDs on my PowerBook. Drat!


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Posted on: 1:34 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
Mr Alan
DVD disks bruned on a DVD player (as opposed to those burned at a DVD factory with the movie on it) are not always compatable with all players. It sometimes depends on the manufacturer of the disk and player. Same is true of CD-ROM's.

DVD output to a computer screen is neither PAL nor NTSC, so as long as you don't send the signal to a TV monitor, you should be able to play it (except for disk incompatibility or region code problems). If you do play it on a computer and send the signal to a TV, then the video device in your computer will determine the output signal (NTSC or PAL).

You can change the region code on DVD players, but the firmware will usually limit the number of times you can make the change back and forth (about 3 times IIRC). Of course you can get another DVD player for a computer for about $20 (read only).

As noted, there may be some computer DVD players which allow the region code change to be made as many times as you want, but the large companies have agreed to not allow this in order to protect copyright laws of the recording industry.


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Posted on: 2:16 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
hzink
Kinda.

The better DVD players (this does not mean 'more expensive') can convert between NTSC/PAL, thus being able to play back on any TV. Generally, a DVD player that is multi-region just spits the signal out from the DVD - be it PAL or NTSC.

The problem in your case appears to be that your DVD player is not able to convert (the Philips DVD-R units are known to not be able to convert - lemme guess, you have the DVDR-75 or 80?), and/or that your TV is obviously just NTSC, yet the disc is PAL based (what you are describing is a classic PAL signal on an NTSC monitor).

Suggestion would be to switch to a DVD player with a converter, or just to use this as an excuse to upgrade your TV to something with component inputs (component is standards-free). Go for a projector, while you are at it...

Harry


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Posted on: 2:18 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
Mr Alan
I just checked my Pioneer 115 DVD player (for use with an IDE connection in a computer), which is about 4 years old.

Using the Windows 2000 Device Manager (right click on My Computer, select Properties, and select the Hardware Tab, then Device Manager), then select the DVD-ROM player, and select the Advanced Settings. It lets me change the region code by selecting the country name (which shows the associated region code). I am allowed to change the region code 4 more times (I have never changed it yet).


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Posted on: 5:14 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
hzink
Alm ost *ALL* computer DVD players can be rendered region-free, as well as allowing unlimited changes to the region settings - via firmware updates. These are usually hacked firmwares that enable these features.

http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php

The above site is your friend.

They have individual sections for the various devices, as well as for the various platforms (one dedicated to the Mac, for example).

For the more faint-of-heart regarding firmware flashing, you can also pick a software solution that will bypass your region restrictions on your computer:

http://www.dvdidle.com/

Plenty of ways to get around arbitrary restrictions.

Harry


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Posted on: 5:55 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
ImOnHoliday
I bought a $30USD dvd player from Sam's Club that is region free and can play PAL or NTSC dvd's.

Look on this website for a list of players that can do the job...

http://www.videohelp.com/



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Posted on: 8:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2004
     

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