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Quote: from Asianatic on 4:28 pm on Nov. 27, 2005
Must try the Mexican restaurant on the corner of Patpong at Silom side. Forgot the name but you can't miss it. Wonderful food and has the advantage of a great location for after dinner party 
I'm sorry, Asianatic, if you really enjoy that place good for you. But I don't even know why they call that food Mexican. Having grown up in Central California and travelled extensively and often in Mexico, I have to tell you that food in there resembles Mexican food about as much as tequila resembles Fanta. Actually the only thing in there Mexican is the liquor and the hats on the walls. But the food! Last time I was in there it seemed they were using kidney beans in the practically cheeseless concoction they called an enchilada! I'd like to slap their cook with an enchilada.
Years ago I went there with an old friend. He said, "That's a pretty uh interesting interpretation."
Buy some corn torillas at Villa and some cheese and salsa, some sour cream and jalapenos, etc--all at the supermarkets. Cook some beans (they mostly have only black or some kind of brown bean which ain't too bad in the supermarkets) in a slowcooker, and make your own at home. You'll feel much better.
And you aren't paying 10 bucks for a taco.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:12 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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ftumch
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Quote: from seajohn on 7:50 pm on Dec. 1, 2005
Quote: from Asianatic on 4:28 pm on Nov. 27, 2005
Must try the Mexican restaurant on the corner of Patpong at Silom side. Forgot the name but you can't miss it. Wonderful food and has the advantage of a great location for after dinner party
I'm sorry, Asianatic, if you really enjoy that place good for you. But I don't even know why they call that food Mexican. Having grown up in Central California and travelled extensively and often in Mexico, I have to tell you that food in there resembles Mexican food about as much as tequila resembles Fanta. Actually the only thing in there Mexican is the liquor and the hats on the walls. But the food! Last time I was in there it seemed they were using kidney beans in the practically cheeseless concoction they called an enchilada! I'd like to slap their cook with an enchilada.
Years ago I went there with an old friend. He said, "That's a pretty uh interesting interpretation."
Buy some corn torillas at Villa and some cheese and salsa, some sour cream and jalapenos, etc--all at the supermarkets. Cook some beans (they mostly have only black or some kind of brown bean which ain't too bad in the supermarkets) in a slowcooker, and make your own at home. You'll feel much better.
And you aren't paying 10 bucks for a taco.
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Frankly, Asianatic isn't exactly your reliable food critic. He thinks Oishi is good Japanese food. So if he says it's good it must be shit.
I know what you mean about that place. Now I am no expert on Mexican food. In fact I wouldn't know an enchilada from a burrito. I know what nachos is and that's about it. But I went once after an evening in Patpong and even though I was pissed and would have eaten anything, it was f***ing inedible. We left it virtually untouched, finished the over priced beers and tequilas, paid the bill and left.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:45 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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China Sailor
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I have searched Asia for over 20 years and have yet to find a decent Tex-Mex or Mexican restaurant.
Even places run by Americans (like Cafe Iguana in Singapore) end up modifying their menus to meet local tastes. This results in a restaurant that serves over-cooked fajitas, stale tacos, and bland guacamole.
I remember one 'Mexican' restaurant outside of the Subic Naval base that had a chili con carnie that was sweet and resembled a tomato sauce.
The real shame is that if they stuck to traditional Mexican cooking (such as seafood burritos and some of the rice dishes) instead of trying to become an upscale 'Taco Bell' the locals would literally 'eat it up'.
IMHO...
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:24 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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Mr Daddy
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I don't know what Mexican food is meant to taste like but I like the stuff at Charlie Brown's. I enjoy eating there as well, never to busy, the manager is a laugh, service is good. The fajita's are a safe choice, build your own style and fairly huge portions. Not sure if it can be counted as "proper" Mexican/Tex Mex which so many people seem obsessed with but it tastes good.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:30 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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Ronnie Raygun
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Right on CS. I think someone can make a small fortune introducing a good taco truck (particularly if they serve Ensenada style fish tacos) to late night bar areas like HK's Lan Kwai Fong.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:36 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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China Sailor
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Quote: from Mr Daddy on 1:08 am on Dec. 2, 2005
I don't know what Mexican food is meant to taste like but I like the stuff at Charlie Brown's. I enjoy eating there as well, never to busy, the manager is a laugh, service is good. The fajita's are a safe choice, build your own style and fairly huge portions. Not sure if it can be counted as "proper" Mexican/Tex Mex which so many people seem obsessed with but it tastes good.
To be honest, most Mexicans probably never seen a fajita.
Fajitas were first developed in the 1930s by the vaqueros working ranches in West Texas from some of the throwaway cuts of meat that were given to them after the butchering process. They did not really become famous until the 1880s when the Head Chef of the Austin Hyatt Regency made it his signiture dish and the Yuppies took them to heart.
Here is a link that will tell you more about Fajitas then you probably wanted to know:
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-03-04/food_feature3.html
Bottom line is that Fajitas are not Mexican and probably be hard pressed to be defined as Tex-Mex. Probably best qualified as Nuevo-American Cuisine...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:45 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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CalEden
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Buy some corn torillas at Villa and some cheese and salsa, some sour cream and jalapenos, etc--all at the supermarkets. Cook some beans (they mostly have only black or some kind of brown bean which ain't too bad in the supermarkets) in a slowcooker, and make your own at home. You'll feel much better.
And you aren't paying 10 bucks for a taco.
Are the corn torttillas fresh or taco shells, like torttillas made out of fresh masa? Do they have taco seasoning mix at villa?
When I ate at Senor Picos when they first opened, tacos where made out of taco shells. Taco shells taste like corn flavoured cardboard!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:55 pm on Dec. 1, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from China Sailor on 11:23 am on Dec. 1, 2005
To be honest, most Mexicans probably never seen a fajita.
Fajitas were first developed in the 1930s by the vaqueros working ranches in West Texas from some of the throwaway cuts of meat that were given to them after the butchering process. They did not really become famous until the 1880s when the Head Chef of the Austin Hyatt Regency made it his signiture dish and the Yuppies took them to heart.
Here is a link that will tell you more about Fajitas then you probably wanted to know:
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-03-04/food_feature3.html
Bottom line is that Fajitas are not Mexican and probably be hard pressed to be defined as Tex-Mex. Probably best qualified as Nuevo-American Cuisine...
I don't think that is correct on several counts.
First, Mexicans often eat grilled meats wrapped in a tortilla (four or corn). Whether or not they call it fajitas is irrelevant IMO.
Regarding who first popularized fajitas, it was certainly not the Austin Hyatt Regency, despite what the (not exactly objective) Austin Chronicle says. More likely it was Ninfa's in Houston with their Tacos Carbon (same as fajitas), serving it to packed crowds since the mid 1970's. There are numerous Ninfa’s locations in Houston and even one in Austin now.
Here is a quote from the Ninfa’s website:
“Ninfa’s has been certified by numerous publications and has received national recognition as the place where fajitas where first served to the general public.”
http://www.mamaninfas.com/
I can attest that that statement, since I first ate at Ninfa’s in 1978.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2005
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I love good Tex-Mex food. I don't really like the California concoctions. Just not to my taste, so let's not get into a slinging match over which is best.
I, too, have found the restaurant on the corner of Patpong 1 and Silom Road less than tasty. What I had was not well prepared and seemed rubbery at best.
I will address a couple of places in Pattaya just in case some of you might be down there and wish to taste around.
1. Moonshine Place, Jomtien. Pretty decent Tex-Mex, particularly when Ned is there to prepare it.
2. The Blue Parrott, Soi Pattayaland. I think the food is pretty good but the best part of this place is sitting at one of the two tables on the sidewalk and watching all the honeys go to and from the many go-go's on the street.
3. Tequila Reef, Soi 7. In my opinion, you can give this place a miss. California style and really not that tasty.
4. There are some new places called Dave's Tacos located around Big C on Second Road that are supposed to be quite tasty. I have not tried them but I will in the next few weeks and let you know what I think about them.
Sorry if you don't think this post is appropriate since it is about Pattaya. If you don't like it, you can stop reading it now.
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The flour tortillas you buy at Foodland are soft and really quite good. I don't know about Villa but they are probably the same. These are also great for cutting up, deep frying and using for Nacho chips.
The boxed taco shells are not very tasty and are often broken when you get them.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 12:25 am on Dec. 3, 2005
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seajohn
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That's right those shells are no good; I don't know why people ever buy them.
The "fajitas" are served in certain restaurants in California, but rather more recently, say, in the last 15 yrs. They are sort of a nouveau dish. However it is very common for California-mexicans to fry up a thin slab of beef in a pan, slice it into strips and eat that with corn tortillas. But they will refer to this as "carne asada".
Anyway--If I'm not wrong I think it's the same outfit that puts out the tortillas in Foodland as in Villa: I think they're called Danitas. They have corn and flour.
I prefer the corn tortillas myself and they're pretty good. Not as good as the thick homemade ones in Mexico some places but as Expatchuck just said above, they make good nachos.
Dang, I'm getting hungry now!!!!!!!!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:16 am on Dec. 3, 2005
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