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Mr Alan
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Viagra (like many drugs) was first introduced in the US where there are strict patent rights for the inventors, and close monitoring of the quality control for generics (when the patent has expired). Viagra is a relatively new drug, and generics for it are not legally to be sold in the US (and other countries that honor US patents).
In countries that do not honor US patents for drugs, you will find a lot of generic versions available immediately (long before the patent expires). In developed countries that honor US patents, drug prices are government controlled (unlike the US) and there is less incentive for illegal generics (those violating patents) to be sold on the black market.
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Posted on: 6:30 pm on Sep. 7, 2003
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John NM
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Here is a link I found for a friend. I have no idea of their service. Prices seem much better than what I have seen in this thread.
http://www.contrademedical.com/e_ordering_paysystems.htm
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Posted on: 8:34 pm on Sep. 7, 2003
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singhop
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Generic Cialis prices look very high on this site compared to generic V ... how much is Cialis at KS Pharmacy on Suk ???
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Posted on: 3:12 am on Sep. 10, 2003
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Bolus
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Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about Uprima (Ixense) being available in LOS. In my travels there Iíve only found one place that sells the stuff and they wanted a stiff 600B per tablet! Been taking V for years and having read about Uprima, I was in the market for something different, so I broke down and bought ONE dose. Unfortunately I took it in combination with 25 mg of Viagra, so my experience is kind of taintedÖ Anyway, I found the mix very stimulating and very different from taking Viagra alone. Apparently, Uprima acts directly on the brain rather than the pecker, and seems to stimulate your libido as well as your dick. Donít think it works nearly as well as V, but would be interested in experimenting with it again. Just donít think the stuff is worth 600B a dose. Any of you guys tried it? Where did you find it and what was the cost?
Bolus
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Posted on: 12:43 am on Sep. 13, 2003
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fastmover
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Quote: from singhop on 4:12 pm on Sep. 10, 2003
Generic Cialis prices look very high on this site compared to generic V ... how much is Cialis at KS Pharmacy on Suk ???
I get generic cialis in China, cool stuff. Let me know when you are in town next if you need some.
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Posted on: 4:25 am on Sep. 13, 2003
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from Bolus on 12:43 pm on Sep. 13, 2003
Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about Uprima (Ixense) being available in LOS. In my travels there Iíve only found one place that sells the stuff and they wanted a stiff 600B per tablet! Been taking V for years and having read about Uprima, I was in the market for something different, so I broke down and bought ONE dose. Unfortunately I took it in combination with 25 mg of Viagra, so my experience is kind of taintedÖ Anyway, I found the mix very stimulating and very different from taking Viagra alone. Apparently, Uprima acts directly on the brain rather than the pecker, and seems to stimulate your libido as well as your dick. Donít think it works nearly as well as V, but would be interested in experimenting with it again. Just donít think the stuff is worth 600B a dose. Any of you guys tried it? Where did you find it and what was the cost?
Bolus
Bolus, Uprima is available in Thailand at KS Pharmacy. I forgot the price but is not cheap. Uprima acts on the Dopamine Receptor or nerve system of enhancing an erection. All ÝSidenafil type drugs (Cialis, Levitra, Vigara, Pengra) are PDE-5 inhibitors that work on the plumbling system part of getting an erection. If you have no problems with your plumbing system, Viagra will have no effect.
An simple analogy is think the erection process like a solenoid springler system. The electrical signal opens the valve and the plumbing system delivers the blood. If you have a problem with your pipes (Clogged) then even if you open the valve (Electrical) using Uprima nothing will happen. For this reason, Uprima was withdrawn from the USA market becuase it really does not fix the plumbing problem, but enhances the desire factor.
So the best solution if you have a plumbing problem is to do exactly what you did taken them in combination. Viagra working on the plumbing and Uprima on the electrical.
Now Uprima taken on a empty stomach can cause nausea, reaction time is 15 minutes on. Viagra works more slowly on a full stomach reaction time 60 minutes on. So the best regime is to take one Viagra wait 60 minutes have a light meal then pop an Uprima (which are sublingual). Then hit the soapy's
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Posted on: 7:46 pm on Sep. 15, 2003
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Bolus
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ThaidUp,
Thanks for the info. Your lengthy reply to my very first post on this forum is much appreciated. Unfortunately, due to the vicious flaming I received following my second post - I vowed never to write here again. But, since this subject is an interest of mine, I suppose there is nothing to lose in one final post to respond to your comments.
I am familiar with KS pharmacy and will inquire there about the availability of Uprima next time Iím in town. By coincidence, KS has been my pharmacy of choice for several years now, damned if I know why it never occurred to me to ask for the stuff there. Guess itís because I never bothered to look for Uprima anywhere while in BKK. I only stumbled across it last visit by accident.
I liked your pluming/electrical system analogies outlining the differences between the two drugs. Guess I know a little more about Uprima (apomorphine) than I mentioned and very much agree with you that the two have little in common. Lots of copy cats coming on the market that work by relaxing the smooth muscles in the same way V does. As far as I know, the mechanism of apomorphine is unique among drugs for male sexual dysfunction.
Have to differ with you just a bit though about Viagra having no effect unless you have pluming problems. The stuff has become quite popular among young guys who have no such problems, but just want to boost there stamina to new levels - sometimes tragically.
You mentioned Uprimaís withdrawal from FDA approval process in the US. Yes, indeed, the stuff had two major problems to deal with. First, as you mentioned, it failed to fix the pluming problem in the dosage they planned to market. In any dosage, apomorphine flops in comparison with Viagra in producing erections, which brings us to the second problem ń the dosage. Two or three milligrams of Uprima is on the low end of the amount needed to achieve the desired effect. Much better results are obtainable with 5 -7 mg or more, the fly in the ointment being at these higher dosages the stuff makes most guys want to puke their guts outÖ not exactly conducive to lovemaking! Thatís why they formulated it as a sublingual tablet in an attempt to bypass the stomach to reduce its nauseating effect. The stuff has been used for many years by veterinarians to induce vomiting.
Even in the 2-3 mg range many people in the FDA studies still experienced nausea and this combined with being inferior to Viagra in producing erections, and the prospect of more V competitors on the horizonÖ the maker decided to just pull the plug. This is unfortunate for me, because when I tried it I didnít experience any of the nausea reported by others, but instead greatly heightened libido with strong sexual mental imageryÖ
Guess thatís enoughÖ sometimes I do go on!!
Maybe catch you on another board ń Iím gone from here.
So long,
Bolus
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Posted on: 4:48 am on Sep. 16, 2003
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from fastmover on 4:15 pm on Aug. 28, 2003
Mr. Thaidup or anyone.....What's the price on the Lilly cialis?
I pay 200 baht per for the Chinese stuff. ÝIn BKK on Sat. any requests?
Here is the pricing from KS Pharmacy:
Cialis (Tadafil) OEM Lilly UK 2700 THB for four pack of 20 mg tablets. (675THD/$16.46 USD ea.)
Uprima (Apomorphine Hydrocloride) OEM Abbott Labs UK 1500 THB for for pack 3 mg tablets (375 THB/ $9.15 USD ea.)
They said they did not carry the version Xense from the Thai company Takeda. I need to find out what's Up with that.
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Posted on: 9:58 pm on Sep. 17, 2003
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fastmover
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Thanks Mr. ThaidUp, guess I'll stick to my China cialis generics at 200 Baht per gel cap.
Don't fancy investing in Lilly!
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Posted on: 6:01 am on Sep. 18, 2003
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Deep File
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I've done a lot of Uprima, and find it very pleasant on most occasions, but sometimes it just doesn't "take" and I've learned to live with that. It's more of the "velvet glove" approach... not near the firepower of V but attractive nonetheless, with none of the odd side effects of V. Personally I'd say it's underrated, doubtless because of being benchmarked against V. The guy who runs the pharmacy at the Soi 23 end of Cowboy stocks both.
Great analogy Thaidup... I was just in the US a week ago and installed a solenoid sprinkler system... pity I didn't see your post BEFORE putting it in... would have provided some comic relief.... the control panel had a setting marked "Rain Delay". ÝIs that what Viagra does??
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Posted on: 11:27 am on Sep. 19, 2003
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