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edenpapa
hi guys

this is a private mail i just received as a result of stupidity posted on different boards as dirty guru or t..d w......s ( fishingtime from dexterhorn Ý) are doing :

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:25 PM
To: marc
Subject: Tell me this is not true??
I have been reading stories on message boards that you pay the girls at eden very small money and force them to work 12 hours a day. This is inhuman and terrible. It is shameful ....how do you justify such actions??? It is a disgrace and would you do this yourself if you were one of those poor girls???
I think not!!
So many message boards say girls getting abused.
SHAME

i am sad to see that people may be stupid enough to believe this kind of defamation

http://www.edenclub-bkk.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000349

if any of our lady wasn't happy to be in the club she would have left long time ago

time to stop all this nonsense

marc


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Posted on: 9:56 am on Aug. 4, 2003
ducksnutz
<that will be a problem in Pattaya. >

Tson,
it is not a problem, trust me, not easy, but it was not a problem. Not that she was better than my missus, just different and certainly up to scratch and so damn cute and a change is as good as a holiday, crikey.


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Posted on: 10:00 am on Aug. 4, 2003
Arcadius
The question re Eden's is very simple. Are the girls there free to work or leave as THEY choose?

If the answer is yes - and it is - everything else is bullshit. THEY can decide whether it's worth getting f_cked up the arse, pissed on or whatever for B1,000 a shot. This is not their one and only option in life. They could CHOOSE to work at other P4P venues or do completely different things for less money. They may make stupid, wrong, foolish choices - as we all do - but it is up to THEM.

Treating such women as pity-objects just so you can award yourself some brownie points for pseudo-compassion is disrespectful - and, as X says, utterly patronising. Just who the f_ck do you think you are?

I agree entirely with 11bravo. If you really want to do something for the poor, downtrodden victims of Thai P4P, then buy yourself some chain-cutters and take on the guys with the M16s. Otherwise, spare us. Ý ÝÝ


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Posted on: 10:58 am on Aug. 4, 2003
dirty guru
i did not defame you marc, ...and never did i say how long those girls work(bye the way how long is their day?) you infact speak about me as a liar, (yet accept the explanation i gave for the fridge beng the place i misplaced my money, graciously) My concern wasnt about forced labour, never have i said that. Again its a question of ill effects. ÝI say look at your menu...is it something that these girls do? Sure they do!... marc is a cunning bullshit artist....stick to the facts....(though their abuse is self permitted ....its still endured...tell me then is being pissed on daily not some sought of self abuse?...i just dont want to do it to these poor souls anymore!)


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Posted on: 11:02 am on Aug. 4, 2003
edenpapa

Quote: from dirty guru on 11:02 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
i did not defame you marc,

i tried two times already and very politely to tell you Ýthat i am not interested by :

anything you may think
anything you may post
anything you may think about myself

YOUR opinion , to me , as no value
just reread what most of the members are thinking about your person on this forum

so just live your life
stop your nonsense
and leave me alone

marc


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Posted on: 12:04 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
dirty guru
than stop jumping down my f#####g throart just because i say i hate your clubs female agenda, (and blame me for the shit you cop) i am not telling womans groups, just board members what i personally think!


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Posted on: 12:13 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
edenpapa
dirty guru

it never occured in your brain that what you are thinking may be wrong ?????

marc


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Posted on: 12:21 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
nokna
many people are fed up with these endless threads about Edens and the flaming of Marc,and i am one of them.

i like to think of Marc as a friend,even though we have never met,but we do correspond by PM and i like to hear from him.
his establishment is kinda unique in BKK and i think by now we all know the concept of the place.
2 girls and no holds barred when it comes to the sexual jinks.

the 'rules' are not for everyone and i admire the members who have said that Edens is not for them,so they have declined to visit.
it has been said by me and others that the girls are not forced to do certain things in the bedroom.

DG says

'You know the only thing i regretted doing was f_cking some sad eden girls arse, and looking in her eyes'

why go there and f_ck her arse then?,did you not have a choice?,were you forced to f_ck her arse?.
why did you not go with a girl from the other side of the yellow line?.
if you had,then you would not have been forced to do things to the girl you find so sad.

i like a BBBJ,but not all girls i have met like this or want to do it,no problem for me.
i do not force them and i will go without if i have to.
my choice,their choice.

just stay away from Edens and any bar you do not like the girls and spare us your whining.
we are bored.


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Posted on: 12:21 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
dirty guru
look i wont say anything again, but gee, is this really fair?....EDen is just no longer my bag.


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Posted on: 12:23 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
edenpapa
dirty guru

did it ever occured in your brain that what you are thinking
( if you are sincere )
may be wrong ,
as wrong as your thieft story ,
as wrong as the take for the ladies ,
as wrong about their working conditions ,
and so on... ?????????????????????

marc


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Posted on: 12:35 pm on Aug. 4, 2003
     

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