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grumbly
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Grumbly makes one more humble entry, then goes silent...til his next trip.
I intended, following my initial BKK field report, to break it down at some point into the various sections, as time would permit. But with only one entry I am permitted as a site Virgin to make a day, that has drawn out the process much longer than I would have liked. I also don't have the time nor desire, thus will not insert into the proper sections comments for hotels, food, massage, etc. My suggestions are contained in my BKK Field Report. A four time BKK visitor, I feel I have some experience to share, to assist those with their trips.
Entertained is how I would describe my reading the responses to my entries. I have chosen, intentionally, not to respond to any of the comments. Most responses are intellectually accepting. But I have also sparked the funny "you suck" rants.
Prefacing each entry with the disclaimer "One Big Fat Ugly Guy's Humble Opinion," I provide just that, one man's ideas. Yet, as I have noticed for years, some here, unaccepting of another's thoughts, respond with the "go to hell" prose. I chuckle. There is nothing to say to that retort. There are some who come here with immature attitudes, hair-trigger miscreants searching for confrontation, spewing negativity, unaccepting of a contrary opinion, dissecting an entry to a strained interpretation so their "you suck" verbiage seems appropriate, at least to them. The root of that of course is various short-comings in their personal and work life. How easy it is with the anonymity of an EM to be ugly and stupid. They are, however, quite funny to read.
Then there is Eden's Marc throwing out the Iran-Contra conspiracy theory when I dare criticize his establishment, though I have been there about five to six times. I have seen that attack of his when others too are not kind of Eden. There is no conspiracy. There is no connection to anyone else. I know no other person on this site, nor any other similar site. So much for constructive criticism. So much for the customer always being right. Grumbly is merely one guy who has come not to like Eden (though it was once a fine visit), who does not care to be relegated to having 2 below average looking woman for one and a half hours at over $100 when the primary reason for a sojourn to Bangkok is sex with attractive woman for less money. I would much rather pay for a pretty girl from LONG GUN or KING'S CORNER at $25-50 short time, or roughly double that for long time.
As provided in the original BKK Field Report (absent in the mini entries I attach to the different forums), I had a great time, finding beautiful woman in many places (LONG GUN, HOLLYWOOD CAROUSEL, KING'S CORNER, THIGH BAR, outside NANA DISCO). I rate some I had as an 8, with one an 8 1/2. I will return. But there are also many places that have none, or very few, attractive woman. Why that opinion so riles some is baffling. I make mention of my views - acknowledging that things change daily there - so others possibly don't waste money traveling from club to club, which really adds up money-wise. That is, I believe, one of the fundamental reasons for this forum: assisting others in their trips.
So, I am done for now. For those who use this venue to channel their life's anger from their void-of-happiness lives: take up sewing. To those who continue to provide honest, thoughtful advice to others, keep up the good work. And, as always, be nice to the woman, most of whom are very sweet.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:58 pm on July 23, 2003
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edenpapa
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Many lies have been spread here and there recently about Eden Club.
Only the liars know why they do this.
Here is the truth.
If you are not attracted to our ladies, then please just do not come to the Club.
At Eden Club, you only pay AFTER the service is provided, and if you are not pleased with our service,
( with a good reason ) , then you DO NOT PAY.
The girls are never penalized for this.
What can be more fair?
marc
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:19 pm on July 23, 2003
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ThaidUp
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There is a lot of good info in grumbly's post, he seems very intelligent and does prefix his writings with.."One Big Fat Ugly Guy's Humble Opinion," I think after you come here a few times and the novelty wears off, you raise your selection standards. Nothing wrong with that, since you are a paying customer.
I been a customer of Eden's and I think Marc is great guy and true to his word. However, I sometimes like to think about the girls position. Let's see start about 1:00 PM to 1:00 AM having many 90 minute shifts doing some of the nastiest sex acts during this time. This can be wearing even to the most fit individual.
So finding that some customers not having a stelluar performance each time is understandable. For me I think next time I will order take out as taken out the environment seems to leave the girls more relaxed and I have seen many good FR's of Eden girls during take outs.
I do not know of many guys who could handle the Eden Clubs schedule on a daily basis including myself, at least they deliver what is on the menu where with many BG's it is a roll of the dice.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:43 pm on July 23, 2003
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Arramsey
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Grumbly ,
I can understand your pique and it is good that you have let off steam .
However just for the record I would like to share the following :-
(1) Yes , you did get flames on your 2 FRs . BUT you must also concede that when the unfairness of the flames was pointed out to them many of the members either accepted or stopped the flaming .
Maybe the next time you are in Bangkok you could make it to an RT - you will then realise what a great Brother-Hood you belong to . Sure some veterans get very possessive about LOS and the TGs - but they really do not mean any ill-will .
(2) Regarding Marc of Eden Club :- In your FR Thread I mentioned in passing that I did not have a very good experience at Eden . I immediately received a PM from Marc asking me in the most polite language as to what had gone wrong . I then PMed him point by point and he replied point by point accepting where things could be wrong and taking necessary corrective action on all points . He then went on to offer me a free session as compensation .
Now that I think is a real professional who takes great pride in his work and his establishment . Sure , he defends Eden and his girls and as in the case of a member who said he was robbed by one of the girls and then recanted you can see why it is necessary for him to do so .
Anyway , I hope you return to LOS soon and have better experiences - BUT whatever the experience I for one would like to read your honest FRs .
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 4:51 am on July 24, 2003
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11bravo
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Quote: from grumbly on 6:58 am on July 24, 2003
And, as always, be nice to the woman, most of whom are very sweet.
Grumbly: Ýenjoyed your FR of YOUR experience; as you say, it's your experience; all the FR's are the author's own. ÝThink you explained yourself very well: Ýyou just didn't see anything that you liked. ÝI've walked in bars, MP's, etc., that people have raved about, didn't see anyone appetizing, so left. ÝOr, took a ride, was disappointed, but, as Pinga advised, "try again". ÝThat's the great thing about BKK - so many choices.
I think the eden topic is a bit sensitive as there is a campaign to discredit; however, I did not take you as one of those - just someone who posted his experience for all to weigh as they made their decision on the merits of eden.
So, safe journey, keep posting, and I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 7:57 am on July 24, 2003
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China Sailor
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Grumbly:
I have followed your postings and the reponses they have generated with interest. Whilst I cannot agree with all of your evaluations, I accept them as "One Big Fat Ugly Guy's Humble Opinion."
What did impress me is that prior to tonight you never returned a flame with a flame. Do not slide down the slippery slope of flaming, it leads to despair.
Via con Dios...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:14 am on July 24, 2003
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CalEden
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I enjoyed your posts and respect you. Sorry to loose you I think you could have contributed alot. There was a time when Bangkok Tonight could tolerate divergent views. It was a kinder gentler board then. I'm sorry and wish you well Grumbly.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:35 pm on July 24, 2003
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ringthebells
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if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I could manage eden, but for a week only...
rtb.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:55 am on Aug. 2, 2003
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nokna
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'There was a time when Bangkok Tonight could tolerate divergent views. It was a kinder gentler board then'
well said Cal....
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:37 pm on Aug. 2, 2003
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haam sup
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The problem isn't divergent views - it's divergent IQs...
haam sup
room temperature
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:30 pm on Aug. 2, 2003
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