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olli
I only about hear domination houses. How about a GOGO where I can take a girl that is willing to give me a severe whipping session. (Whip provided by me)


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Posted on: 10:43 am on Sep. 29, 2002
chateaujade
Olli, first of all if you wave enough money at just about any BG you can get her to do most anything (the first time this was pointed out to me the example given was "shit on her tits and beat it with a tennis racket" which was, even for me clearly facetious.

But wait a moment. You are proposing to let some BG who knows nada about the art and science of flagellation, let alone safety, have at you with an undefined whip provided by yourself and with the instruction to make it "severe".

To me that seems very risky and foolhardy.

Does she know where to hit you and more importantly where not to hit you?

If not she can damage your kidneys and maybe your spine. Pissing blood will probably go away but paralysis might not.

SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY and SKILL. That's what you pay a professional Dominatrix for, knowing how to give you a severe whipping, without doing you any damage you don't want.

You won't find that in a bar.

There are three Houses in Bangkok. Mistress Christie is very good, does shorter (2 hr) sessions for 6000 baht, mostly weekday afternoons. She is highly skilled. Speaks English and German very well.

Then there is Mistress Midori's place. And that's all I am going to say about her. Take a hint.

And there is Chateau Jade. Just go to http://www.chateaujade.com. Long sessions 12 hrs and up, only, usually with 2 Dommes, 16,000 baht incl meals and drinks. Both of the Dommes mentioned above used to be here.

Don't mistake a bar girl whose hand you place a whip in, with a pro Domme. Are you just trying to save some money? Not smart.

Consider my advice. I really don't care which House you visit but don't be a buffalo and try this with a BG. It's asking for trouble.


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Posted on: 4:29 am on Sep. 30, 2002
chateaujade
Incidentally there are no SM theme bars in Thailand. The issue is slightly clouded by the sale of slavegirl kit by Ian from Pattaya into Nana and Cowboy (not Patpong) when in fact the girls have no idea what they are wearing.

Having spent a considerable amount of time searching through hundreds of BGs for anyone with the aptitude and disposition, for play-partners for myself, I can tell you that they are few and far between. Overwhelmingly the usual response from BGs when the subject of kink comes up is to move away from the guy who raised the issue. This is because the girls are TAUGHT (incorrectly) that anyone into that is a Ted Bundy type.

Furthermore, when I started my House, I tried to recruit and re-educate BGs and MGs and this was all in all a disaster. I finally gave up and trtied straight women from any other walk of life, and THAT works fine.

But nightlife girls, as much as I love them, are about useless for this. I strongly suspect that this is why there was no place for BDSM At all (in Thailand) prior to the establishment of Chateau Jade. It isn't that Thai women do not have the aptitude, it is that Thai BGs have had it acculturated out of them as part o their BG socialization process. And apparently no one ever thought to try anything else but demimondaines. Whatever.

What I am saying is that SM and bars don't mix here. Or, you'd have to staff the bar with non bar girls and that just seems to me to be a non starter.

Furthermore alcohol and safe BDSM do not mix well. That ought to be obvious to anyone who thinks about it.

SM is about sensation, why numb yourself? Self defeating.

Now an SM coffee bar...maybe called SLAMBUCKS...no, sounds too much like sjamboks and we wouldn't want S.Africans showing up with hippo hide whips that cut to the bone...ouch...


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Posted on: 4:53 am on Sep. 30, 2002
olli
Chateaujade,

thanks alot. I have heard about the Eden Club- SM seems to be on their menu! Probably not comparable to the quality of service at a dommehouse?
i am into severe whipping as such as i want my backside whipped and not my bump- love the sensation of a bullwhip leaving bloody marks..... what is safest?



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Posted on: 3:50 am on Oct. 1, 2002
FIB
Eden ? bullwhip ? safety ? My advice, just stay home ! if you know what you are talking about, then you know that a bullwhip requires a lot of technique and practice to be administered safely on a fellow human being, and I am talking about the safety of both the person on the giving and on the receiving side (not to mention the potential for material destruction of any object that it is within range).

Eden is rightly known for enthusiastic 3somes with girls willing to accomodate you in every orifice. As for SM, well, I did ask and what they provide is a bit of scratching and slapping during sex, that's hardly a bad whipping, let alone with a bullwhip.

fib.


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Posted on: 4:55 am on Oct. 1, 2002
chateaujade
A bullwhip or even a stockwhip requires years of practice to achieve precise control. It also requires a HUGE open space -- we have a 1000 sq ft main hall and we still do not have sufficient interior space for a bullwhip.

We have floggers of both deerskin and bullhide, many paddles of various designs and exotic hardwoods, riding crops, tawses, canes, but we do not have single tail whips such as bullwhips or stock whips.

A bullwhip is a deadly weapon.

Marc can answer for his own place but, I think Eden is not a place to go for a severe whipping, or maybe not for a whipping at all.


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Posted on: 6:33 am on Oct. 1, 2002
edenpapa

Quote: from chateaujade on 6:33 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
A bullwhip or even a stockwhip requires years of practice to achieve precise control. It also requires a HUGE open space -- we have a 1000 sq ft main hall and we still do not have sufficient interior space for a bullwhip.

We have floggers of both deerskin and bullhide, many paddles of various designs and exotic hardwoods, riding crops, tawses, canes, but we do not have single tail whips such as bullwhips or stock whips.

A bullwhip is a deadly weapon.

Marc can answer for his own place but, I think Eden is not a place to go for a severe whipping, or maybe not for a whipping at all.



HI CHATEAUJADE

i do agree
we can provide light bondage ,spanking,light whipping or arrange any fantasm

but we are not in bloody whippings

we do not have the same rates too

see you
marc


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Posted on: 8:09 am on Oct. 1, 2002
sandiegon
I do agree with CJ on bullwhip whipping... Like he said Do not even try to put the bullwhip in someone hand's who has no clue what she is doing... Bullwhip requires years of practice and guidence. This is from my own personal experience. Even though san diego has big bdms community still we only have 3 people who can actually use bullwhip without damaging your flesh... Just a word of caution thats all...


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Posted on: 11:43 am on Oct. 1, 2002
chateaujade
I am really very pleased to be in agreement with sandiegon about something.

A final word about putting a bullwhip into the hands of a newby: assuming you have the more than 15 feet in any direction of free space required, the newby needs to be wearing a wide brimmed hat with a stiff brim down low over her eyes, because the most likely thing that will happen when she is practicing her stroke is that the popper will come back and try to take her eye out.

Thanks Marc. We do bloody whippings here (rarely, when people want them) but mostly with cane, or tawse, not with single tail whips such as are being discussed here.

One of our best pieces is an original Lochgelly H-weight  3-finger tawse. A beautiful and very nasty tool and no longer being manufactured (as on 1986).  Imitations made for the fetish scene tend to be inferior.


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Posted on: 2:48 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
chateaujade
HI MARC

I understand you are recently married. Bon chance, may your union be blessed three times three. (9 is a lucky number in Thailand as in most of Asia).

One of my friends was on your invitation list.

BTW I don't think a comparison of rates serves much purpose. We do sessions of 12 hrs, 24 hrs, and longer up to a week so far. We don't have hourly rates.

We also do not provide sex, your girls do.

And, delightful as your ladies are, they are not professional Dommes, n'est-ce pas?

SO it is apples vs grapefruit. Durian vs pineapple.

No basis for comparison, as we are not in competition with each other in any way I can see. Don't you agree?


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Posted on: 3:41 pm on Oct. 1, 2002
     

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