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Joe Wood

The smile in this Land of Smiles can mean many different things.

A smile in a go-go bar just means she is open for business, nothing more, as can the long eye contact.

But I wouldn't assume that the girl who doesn't look at you or who doesn't smile at you is a non-runner. She may just not be prepared to light herself up like a Christmas tree for everyone and anyone from the stage and prefers to get to know a guy at least initially over a drink and a chat before she reveals a little of herself.

But if you are interested in a girl, I wouldn't wait for a look or a smile. She may get snapped up long before that. Have her called over and see what happens from there. At least you've tried to reach out to her.

The alternative is to sit in a go-go waiting for that smile, but just looking at all the good ones being snapped up before your eyes by other guys who work a little faster in these auctions.


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Posted on: 9:59 am on July 17, 2010
Quim
I agree with JW, while a smile can be promising, I no longer wait for the smile or the eye contact before calling a girl over. Some are just too shy to make initial contact that way. The real test is when they are sitting next to you having a drink.

So if I really like a girl('s looks, body, etc.), then I will ask a waitstaff to call her over. You never know.

But sometimes the easiest thing is just to walk up to her stage side and call her down for a chat. If she resists, then never mind. If she bends down, and the chat is pleasant enough, then okay. If she touches you, all the better. If she kisses you, well, then you are golden.

Don't ever be afraid to be the initiator (see GW Bush, the decider). You are in control. If they don't like you, you will know quickly enough. And I always prefer to know before I buy them a drink. But sometimes, well, sometimes we have to just suck it up and call them down, smile unseen, because that's just the way things are.


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Posted on: 6:38 pm on July 21, 2010
NAPOLEON

Quote: from Quim on 6:38 am on July 22, 2010
But sometimes, well, sometimes we have to just suck it up and call them down, smile unseen, because that's just the way things are.



Quim, what % of the girls you call down for a drink (that did not originally show interest from the stage) turned out to be interested but just did not show it from the stage? Thanks.


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Posted on: 8:06 pm on Aug. 31, 2010
Quim
Napoleon, I would estimate that it was probably 50% or so.

Not to say that the "negative" half was truly negative, just that when a girl does not give you any encouragement on stage, you have only a 50/50 chance of ending up with a girl that is enthusiastic about you, and a 50/50 chance of ending up with a girl that is indifferent or worse.

But even if she is indifferent or worse, you still have only wasted a drink on her, and even then, you can still chose to f*** her (indifferent is still not that bad) or abandon her quickly (if she doesn't like you, that is the preferred option).

But my point was that chances are just as likely (50%), that the girl ends up liking you once she is sitting next to you with a drink, even though she didn't smile or otherwise give you any encouragement while up on stage. Why? Because she is young and inexperienced, etc.

Which I suppose brings me to my caveat. If she appears to be experienced, and ignores you (again, especially if you try to flirt with her stage side), then yes, please do avoid calling her down for a drink, as that is likely to lead nowhere. But that is, in my experience, the huge exception, by far.


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Posted on: 12:23 am on Sep. 1, 2010
charmonman
Quack, your approach was easily the correct one 20 or 10 years ago, but unfortunately times have changed and the gogo bars are far less easy-going than they once were. I used to never call a girl over, I would just smile at the one I liked and she would be over in the blink of an eye. Of course I was younger then but I think the fact that this no longer works so well is more a change in culture than in my somewhat older appearance.

Today the girls are more jaded/paranoid and the punters are more aggressive, so I would agree with regret that the only approach these days is to call them over.


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Posted on: 11:51 pm on Oct. 19, 2010
Kaymanx

Quote: from charmonman on 11:51 am on Oct. 20, 2010
unfortunately times have changed and the gogo bars are far less easy-going than they once were...


Good observation. Like QQ I have this tendency to wait for a signal from the girl. But over time I have sensed that if I sat too long in the bar without picking a girl for company, the stage girls would seem to lose interest in me. Besides there are the mamasans and the waiters reminding them of the day's unfulfilled targets so the girls probably figure they mustn't waste time on an apparent loner. What I now do is, if the hailers lead me in I let them hand me over to a girl and go with her. Or, if no hailers are involved, I chat up the first girl who serves my drink. Things just take off from there and the stage girls seem to get more interested. I guess, from their vantage point atop the stage, the girls who are the main earners for the bar, keep an eagle eye on each and every customer, and spread the word among themselves, deciding among themselves who should bait which customer. Sure, there's that odd bad day on which no one seems to be interested.


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Posted on: 12:03 pm on Dec. 3, 2010
thailife
I work at it another way.... First I like to find a good looking girl, then find out if she is into kink... not into kink, then I don't want her.... I don't care if she is faking it, it is all about me, not her.

Smile you bitch and let that piss run all over your face.... that's how I roll with the wolfpack.

When I was young I respected woman... now I could care less... I treat them well, but I am out for myself.


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Posted on: 2:15 pm on Dec. 3, 2010
harold444
actually staring at them becoz theyre beautiful is a turnoff to them.


show them the baht.........buy em a drink!


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Posted on: 6:11 pm on Dec. 3, 2010
Joe Wood
As a follow-up to my earlier entry, it isn't always all about you and the lady.

If she isn't making eye-contact or smiling while she is dancing or is unresponsive to an offer of a drink, it may be that she has already been solicited by a customer or is in the middle of having a drink with a guy and doesn't want to be the cause of potential conflict.

If that is the case, bide your time. See if the interested party goes off in search of another and then quickly make your move before anyone else steps in.

If he takes her out, call it quits but remember to go back for her at some other time when she is available for you.


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Posted on: 3:36 am on Dec. 4, 2010
saitnyen
My take on this is that it depends on the bar you're in.

In the Rainbows in BKK and SuperBaby/SuperGirl in PTY, you're a lot better off asking the waitress, mamasan, etc. for the girl you're interested in. If you don't you'll leave empty handed more times than not. Not sure why exactly. Maybe it's a badge of honor for the girl to get asked to come over. Maybe there's a bar rule to not harass the customers. It may happen that a girl in one of these bars will join you after eye contact (it has happened to me). I'm just saying it is rare. Perhaps it is a coincidence that these bars are Thai-owned and cater heavily to the Japanese?

In other bars the girls are much more willing to join you after eye contact and perhaps some flirtation while they're dancing. You can ask here too but why bother.

Then there are the many bars where girls join you from your blind side. Personally I hate that but it is usually easy enough to get rid of them if they're not your type (they usually aren't).


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Posted on: 3:21 am on Jan. 14, 2011
     

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