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el frances
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hello
Brothers who have read my previous contributions on vietnam topics know that I don't believe in freebies in vietnam (except they think you will marry them and anyway support them one way or another).
I met only recently one exception I will never forget.
In october last year I was in vietnam in a provincial town in my favorite nightspot. There I met a 18 years old girl I talked with and I soon learned she was not "working". So I had sex with other "taxi girls", but every night I spend some time talking to her because we were feeling very friendly, and she was educated (not like the working girls) and interesting to talk with
One night she came to me: "tonight I work. I am not used to it but with you it's like with a boyfriend because I like you". Of course my heart beated faster, because I really liked her. We came to my hotel (separately, because she did not want other people to know...), and she was very shy (god ! I was excited by that...). When I asked her to suck me, she replied with a little trembling voice "i'm too shy". When I asked her for frenchkiss, the same. But when I touched her (she was shy at it too at the beginning), I found out she was soon very wet, and when we made love, she came. A night I will never forget.... After that, she told me it was the first time for money, because she had a problem to solve. The next day I left to saigon to take my plane back home.
After that we exchanged e-mails and she made clear she did not want to sell herself any more. I convinced her with difficulty that I really liked her and wanted to be a boyfriend for her. And also told her I was married (I don't like to lie). So end of march we go for one week on holyday together (I could not be with her in her hometown, because people would think she is a bad girl). She made clear she did not want any money.
She was not shy any more.....And I really had one of the best time in my life with a girl, enjoying every minute of it. I was very fond of all aspects of her personality. I am sure she also more than liked me (I am very suspicious about girls really loving me, you can believe me..I check everything). After one week, we come back to her hometown because she has to see her mother, and I expect to go somewhere else on holyday again the next week with her.
The next day I phone her to know more about it, and she tells me she does not want to see me any more because she is afraid to like me too much and will be too sad when I live. Also, I am already married and she must think about her future.....
I was too sad to stay there so I came back to saigon. It happened in my (long) life that girls didn't want to see me any more because they did not like me enough, not because they liked me too much.......
After that I sent her e-mails to try to change her mind, but no way to change her mind.
And now I am there again in her hometown on holyday: sometime I see her around but she does not want to talk to me any more....
I think I'd better make a stop in thailand earlier than I initially planned. Too painfull for me to stay there....
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:42 am on July 3, 2003
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sbxabyss
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Sometimes you just have to cut your losses, bro. By the sound of your post, it sounds as if her love is genuine. I believe it is probaly the best thing for her and you as well. maybe you'll see her in the next lifetime.
I can't believe the irony of it. Somebody smack me!!! These words coming from a man (me) who likes to have his cake and eat it too. i would like to say that i can empathize with you but (un)fortunately i haven't been married before but i do think we all know what it like to be torn between 2 women or long for 2 women simultaneously.
So far in both my trips to LOS, i've avoided the thai good girls like SARS:
1) i cant give them what they want or need (want to f*** everything in sight & cannot pretend to be any other way)
2) silly of me i have a conscious. i'll take my chances with the "working class" girls...i think i've broken enough hearts and caused enough damage this lifetime...no really, i'm not that nice. karmas done trounced on me on several occasions 5555
I do not advocate the mistreatment, berating, or denigration of BGs but we have to be real...lets call a spade a spade...a BG is a BG and i for one do not indulge them with visions of grandeur other than a good night of raunch & mischief nothing more.
Just ponder this for a moment, out of curiousity would you allow her to jeopardize your "good standing" with your wife by coming forward with your extramarital liasons? (I'm assuming your wife is not cognizant of your situation). If not, why would you want to jeopardize her standing with her community? i equate "community" with "spouse" in this scenario since she doesn't have one and the community's opinion is what matters most to her.
By no means is this meant to be an acrimonious indictment of your actions but sometimes we have to think about someones else's feelings other than little man downstairs. yeah, i know its tough to do, we're men...that's not to say, you don't sincerley care for this woman.
I feel you though! If we were in thailand together, I'd buy you several rounds of drinks & women to in an attempt to ease your pain. your doing the righthing by extricationg yourself from the situation...i think i hate myself for saying so 
anyways just notes from the peanut gallery.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:53 am on July 3, 2003
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Marco
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In Vietnam and almost everywhere in Asia, don't f*** a "good" girl if you have no intention to marry her or at least to be in an official relationship.
It is only trouble and loss of face for her, and most of the time for you.
Sbxabyss makes a very good point : are you prepared to leave your wife for her ? If no, how unfair to expect her to lose everything for you.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:34 am on July 3, 2003
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Smegma
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Lots of good things said in the two posts above so I do not need to add anything new to it.
I have also many times refrained myself, as sbxabyss says he has done, from starting relationships where I thought the lady liked me much more than I liked her (I just wanted to bang her).
The irony in some cases was that after me not willing to go ahead for fear of hurting her, I saw some girls later with time become bad bitches in the way they treated and changed their men like the way they changed shoes. Still - no regrets.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:34 am on July 3, 2003
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Kryptonite
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Women are like stamps, lick em', stick em', and send em' on their way 
Something all brothers should never forget. Love is a disease, a horrible horrible disease. Worse than cancer, HIV/AIDS all put together.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 8:50 pm on July 3, 2003
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adhoc
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Quote: from Kryptonite on 8:50 am on July 4, 2003
Women are like stamps, lick em', stick em', and send em' on their way
Something all brothers should never forget. Love is a disease, a horrible horrible disease. Worse than cancer, HIV/AIDS all put together.
I rest my case. Peace!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:47 pm on July 3, 2003
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sbxabyss
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Smegma,
I feel you especially on the last paragraph. At least its not on your conscious...for every good girl that i probably should have f***ed, they're more than enough bad ones to fulfill my deviant desires.
Kryptonite:
yo, whatever works for you fam...hey just stay away from my sister, she might turn you out 555
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:49 pm on July 3, 2003
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el frances
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I know I am a little crazy, but for me there's no life without emotion....So I just get what I deserve, for sure.
As for the girl, she knew from the start about my situation, and was the only "open" girl I have seen in vietnam (which means reacting like a western girl) and she had 2 or 3 boyfriend she was keping in touch. Also she was young enough to have a little more time to find a husband. It's just we did not expect it to be so nice together.
For me, it's no problem to love more than one women. I can love different girls at the same time because they are different. OK it's difficult to manage sometimes, but when I'm old I will have a lot to remember.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:00 am on July 4, 2003
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Marco
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I think most men agree to the idea of having several women. The problem is more on the women's side!
Even if your girl is reacting like a European girl her family and the rest of the society certainly don't. So no surprise she prefers to live you rather than compromising her relation with everybody else.
Expecting relationships in Vietnam to be the same as in Europe is also IMO a big misconception.
Personally if prefer to stick to already "bad" girls so I don't no bear the responsibility for their downfall!
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:11 am on July 7, 2003
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