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nokna
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i'm glad you understand guys.
it was just an off the cuff remark,as MrJoe says,have'nt we all done it at one time or other?.
but the good thing is that Sa has left Patong and is back home with her children.
i speak with her every week on the phone and 3 days ago she put her daughter on to speak to me.
she is only 4 and at the moment no English,and all i got was the 'sawadee ka,sawadee ka'.
i was touched.
i also rang Nok this week to wish her a happy birthday,and she has also left Patong and is back in her village.
she put her son on the phone to speak to me and it was good to hear his voice again.
(FR to follow) and all he said was 'hello man,you come back?'.
again i was touched.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:57 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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Thai Traveler
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Nokna,
I've been on here long enough now to know your heart is in the right place. We all have said something stupid at the wrong time, I know I've had cases of "foot in mouth" and I know she understands you never ment it.
And as much as some of us go out for a little "sanook" when in town (or living there), I think most of the regulars have also made some good TG friends along the way that we hold dear in our heart, again I'd be guilty of that and to be honest, it's a damn good feeling.
From what you say, she is trying to get away from it and that is great to hear. It seems that you are there to give her support and I'm not talking about money. I'm sure it will help her just as much to know there is someone that she can really talk to if needed and I think in the end a friendship can't be measured in money anyway.
Just my thoughts..
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 5:09 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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nokna
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Thai Traveler.
i'm glad you understand how i feel about these women.
we had good times in the past,but now i am in the UK,but they are so much in my heart.
i made good friends,along with the quick f_ck which happens when we need it at times.
i love all my regulars and will never forget them.
Sa will often ring me and that must be a big expense on her part.
this shows me she has not forgotten me.
your line about 'friendship can't be measured in money' really got to me.
i cannot agree more.
i'm getting a bit tearful writing this,thinking of my girls,so i'm off to the pub to watch the football and to get pissed.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:35 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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bkkz
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Quote: from nokna on 1:32 pm on Dec. 14, 2002
BK
you bought back an unpleasant memory with your comment.
when Sa showed me the picture of her children,i was struck by the beauty of her daughter.
some of the board members have seen the picture and agreed.
i made a flippant remark about me coming back in 20 years and looking for her daughter in one of the bars.
That wasn't a good remark. However, if you helped the young girl out with providing her a good education, you could be help change her future and steer her away from the bars.
What you want to do in the next 14 years is up to you.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:05 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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Thai Traveler
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Quote: from nokna on 3:35 pm on Dec. 14, 2002
Thai Traveler.
i'm glad you understand how i feel about these women.
we had good times in the past,but now i am in the UK,but they are so much in my heart.
I know exactly how you feel, because I feel the same way about the TG friends I made.
We become a part of their life when we can see them on our visits and they become part of us. It is very hard being far away, knowing how hard the life there can be for them. But don't let that get you down, you are in touch and you can go and see them again.
Remember the good times you had and hold those close. You may not be able to hold her right now, but you can hold on to the friendship and memories till you see her again.
As for the line about friendship, it is something I deeply believe.
I have a very close friend which I have known for 20 years now, I got to know her when I was in europe about 21 years ago.. long story, I won't get into it here. I call her my little sister, because as it turned out, we have the same birthday (I'm ~20 hours older than she is). I probably haven't seen her for ~18 years (I'm 1/2 a world away), but every year on "our" birthday I call her and we talk for ages. Even though it has been that long since I have seen her, I would do anything for her and she would do the same for me. We have a bond that is kind of hard to describe, but I think you can understand what I mean and why I feel that way.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:45 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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sukhumvit boy
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Nokna I have to disagree with what other people have said about your remark.I think it was a disgusting thing to say.How you can say that to a lady about her child is unbelievable.A child is the most precious thing she had and for her to think about what you said of course was going to make her very upset.You claim it was an off the cuff remark and sure all of us have said things we regret but where were your brains that day?In your feet?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:46 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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pinga
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Gosh!
....lots of good feelings....I am impressed, very impressed....
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:57 am on Dec. 14, 2002
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Smegma
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I wasnt sure about making this post cuz it means remembering one incident I feel terrible about.
I agree with Sukhumvit Boy.
However, I understand what happened to Nokna. ÝI once made the same kind of stupid mistake. Ý
One day, years ago, after running into a colleague/friend in the office and asking him how he was doing, he mentioned such a lethany of bad things that were happening to him, that I replied jokingly (yeah jokingly!!) "you might be better of shooting yourself". The moment I said those words and as I saw his facial expression changing, I remembered that both his father and grandfather had at different times both commited suicide by shooting themselves. My friend and I didnt say anything else and walked away in different directions. Ý Ý
I still have no answer as to how could I have said something so stupid -furthermore having in the past discussed with other common friends that such subject was delicate matter for him even more, because he wondered if it was something that ran in the family. ÝOf course, I had to apologize later on. ÝBut doing so was not easy as it would mean bringing up the subject. ÝI just did it. ÝI feel bad now just remembering the event.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:34 pm on Dec. 14, 2002
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cmore
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I am very grateful that my ex has a son instead of a daughter. As a matter of fact, as far as I am aware, only one of the ladies that I have come to think of as friends has a daughter and that's Ms. Pen. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Some of you may remember my trip to Kangaroo bar in Sept. to meet Ms. Pen and give her a 500 baht gift to make up for a wrong I had perceived had been done to her. Well I did go there to meet her and brothers BK, Kman, and YEP went with me. Considering that Kangaroo bar is a BJ bar you can probably imagine what my image of Ms. Pen was. What you can't imagine is how totally wrong I was. Ms. Pen turned out to be one of the most genuine and down to earth people I have ever met. I was truly impressed with her and she is now one of my heroes. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Here's a lady in her late 30's working in a BJ bar, servicing ( How many I don't even want to know ) customers every day, probably 7 days a week and why does she do it? Because she wants to try to make sure that her 15 year old daughter has a better life and doesn't end up having to do the same thing when she grows up. I repeat, I am a big fan of Ms. Pens. However, as much as it pains me to say this, that young girl is only 2 or 3 years from being grown up and if it were to turn out that she is already spending time hanging out in places like RCA then she could very well be grown already. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý I hope in my heart that all of Ms. Pens hard work and sacrifice pays off because I know how Ms. Pen would feel about seeing someone she loves, someone in her family have to do the same thing she does to make a living. How do I know? Because when we were there her niece was there, and not just to visit her aunt. She was there to see if working there would be something she would be interested in trying. Fortunately for her that night she chose to hang out with the Jedi master so she was in good hands ( I said good hands, not safe hands  ). Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý I never went back there after that first time so I don't know what her final decision was about working there, but if I were to allow myself to think for once with my brain instead of my heart I'd already know the probable answer. On second thought I'll stick with letting my heart do the thinking because my brain keeps seeing a beautiful ( And she really was a knockout ) 19 or 20 year old young lady thinking about whether or not she wants to work in a BJ bar. No offense meant to the brothers or the ladies but in my opinion BJ bars are pretty much at the bottom rung of the ladder and here's this young lady thinking about starting there. If she feels it necessary to join the P4P biz then this should be where she someday ends up, not start from. What chance does she possibly have to ever reach any of the higher rungs. Yes I think I'll stick with letting my heart do the talking. Peace
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:49 pm on Dec. 14, 2002
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It was a flippant remark.The depth of it was expressed in her behaviour. You know that.
But you told your story on this board. ( Blody hell, I am not a catholic - don't want to make this sound as if you did your confession) I like that.
I like that, Nokna
That's why the girl trust your heart. She's calling you. no?
I have lost count whether this was NOK or SA, but its OK
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:34 pm on Dec. 14, 2002
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