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penbelly
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Seajohn is back in full fiddle! I have to agree with my former nemesis again. Nige is a piece of shit. Not for doing a bunch of different girls but because of the way he treats them. 
Seajohn,Somebody told me you really HAD jumped from the ARI station and Mistress Christy had wheeled up in her BMW and whisked you off to "revive" you.  Happily,that doesn't appear to be the case..........rumors 
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:45 pm on June 28, 2006
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seajohn
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PB, Guess we can't believe everything we hear, or read! 555 Mistress Christy???
Agreeing with NINGNING, I would consider the fact that there are apparently more people doing these kinds of things, or that there are more websites or venues offering an opportunity to humiliate someone or be humiliated, more of a cause for alarm in our societies than a justification for their existence.
There is a point at which freedom of expression destroys the personality's authenicity. Crossing the line from expression to decadence. Without meaningful relations in their lives, people become desensitized to one pleasure and they just need increasingly violent stimulation...
When you shift out of common mores--Creativity, for instance, always includes another side of the coin which is potentially self-destructive. These terrible films cannot be compared to something great, but to use a general example of the principal: no matter how much I am awed by the man's work and letters and determination, a society full of Van Gogh's could not accurately be called civilization. Social rules have a place--otherwise who would have fed little Vincent when he was a baby?
However I do not set myself up as the arbitrator of these restrictions. My ideas for social reorganization have been ignored by the worlds' leaders and the UN. I am forced to the conclusion that I have negligible political influence, despite superfluous genius! 555
Again I wouldn't compare the Nigel films specifically with Eden Club which in my experience is joyful. I don't know much about all the other S&M movies in the world, but I doubt if the Nigel films' terrible feelings can be merely explained away in terms of poor production. Is it something in the intention? If those feelings are the goal of these films, I'd say that that is an unfortunate reflection on our species which has more to do with a modern idiosyncratic sickness than reality. Taking a look at reality through its own eyes, one is appalled by what we do to ourselves in such circumstances. Must we perpetuate them?
Anyhow, to be honest, I would personally like to withdraw somewhat from this thread at this point because it feels a bit like staring at dogshit... One wants to take a shower after discussing it so much.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 7:56 pm on June 28, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Clearly you guys commenting on this have not really bothered to download and view the material, before condemning it off the cuff. Now, I am not going to defend it (especially the shitting and urinating sick crap), but by and large, the videos are not as bad as some of you guys make them to be.
Yes, there are certain extremes - when they get into some of the actions that appear to degrade (eating cum off toilet seats, sucking it in from an enema tube (WTF???), shaving the girl's hair, or writing 'SLUT' on them), and as has been pointed out, these actions are all part of more recent developments ('recent' being a flexible term, as most of the material is 2-4 years old before being placed online).
The one thing that is obvious, is that MANY of the girls are doing this pretty willingly, and don't appear to have issues with the act - albeit there are some that aren't too happy about certain aspects, or that are getting pissed.
Considering that they are being paid between 10,000 to 15,000 Baht, the financial incentive is a great one, especially seeing as how they are able to make that for 1-2 hours of work. Some of the videos include before and after banter between the filming guy, the girl, and Nigel (or that hairy ape dude), which often apears to be fun and relaxed.
Finally, considering how many of the girls are featured in multiple videos, it's pretty clear that many of them are repeat customers - clearly, if they felt degraded, humiliated, abused, and hurt, it would seem unlikely that they would return...
As I said, there's no attempt to defend Nigel's site, or some of what's up there, but actually spending the time to view more than 10 second clips would go a long way towards being able to form a more educated opinion of the material - though I am not discounting the obvious negative impression the material inspires.
As for the clearly amateur look of most videos - I am sad to say that this kind of 'style' is much in demand right now, even in professional circles, and known as 'Gonzo' style - though in my opinion, just another case of a bug being made into a feature by people that don't know any better.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:18 pm on June 28, 2006
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JackRabbit
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JackRabbit present...
So where the line will be drawn ?
BeatenThaiBitches with pics of roughed and bleeding girls ?
WhippedThaiSluts ?
SuperstretchedThaiholes with huge objects protruding from girls?
JR
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:42 am on June 29, 2006
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Baskoy
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I agree with DD these girls are paid, and nobody is forced to do anything they do not want to.
I think perhaps there is a touch of hypocrisy in this thread... I personally don't see the difference between paying a young girl to suck your cock and f*** you in front of other people in a bar or paying one to be filmed doing the same thing. If she is willing to other things for money then as the saying goes "up to her"
If you don't like the videos don't watch them.
Believe me there is a lot worse out there than Nigel.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:04 am on June 29, 2006
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JackRabbit
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JackRabbit present...
Could You bring an example about that hypocrisy, please ?
Being paid does not make it un-humiliating.
But hey, if that's OK, then I may open a page ThaiGladiatorSluts, where bg's are paid to fight each others no matter what injuries are.
JR
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:23 am on June 29, 2006
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AmoresPerros
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Quote: from JackRabbit on 3:24 pm on June 29, 2006
But hey, if that's OK, then I may open a page ThaiGladiatorSluts, where bg's are paid to fight each others no matter what injuries are.
Sounds good! Antique Rome sure had a spectacular idea of entertainment !
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:01 am on June 29, 2006
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Finchy
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Lets see now.
Many people would argue that it is degrading for girls to be made to go upstairs with almost any guy who has the money and allow him to f*** her arse, make her have lesbian sex, get f***ed by a strap on dildo and let some guy cum in her mouth. Hmmm, which club with a very long running thread does that sound like?
Similarly some would consider it distasteful and degrading to spend your working day sucking the cock of any guy who walks in, without a condom, before letting him cum in her mouth.
Hmmm which other bar with a long running thread does that sound like??
some others would argue that having to lick some girls pussy on a stage in front of a large group of men is humiliating. Hmm. Where does that sort of thing happen?
Do we really believe that the girls in these 2 examples 'enjoy' it and dont feel bad about what they have to do, yet those 'poor girls' in Nigels videos are treated outrageously. All of them make the decision to do what they do for the money involved. Sometimes they will enjoy, sometimes they wont.
The point is that 'Nigel' is criticised a little bit too heavily IMHO. Is it my cup of tea? Not really. Do I feel a little bad for the girls? Of course. Same as I do sometimes when I am sat in a bar and watch what some of the girls have to do.
There are many guys who treat the girls at least as 'bad' as Nigel. At least they get paid well with him.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:21 am on June 29, 2006
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Yurune
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Nigel is one horrible man.... One of thousands who visit Bangkok..... and there are probably many who've visited this forum.....
Some people protest too much.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:51 am on June 29, 2006
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