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A couple of years back I noticed that someone had planted a sticker in the Cathouse, Nana with his ugly mug on it and the words 'Sex Pest' or something similar.
Seems he is well known ?
Any news on his slimming disease and his apeman colleague who shafts as many ladyboys as he can get his hands on. There was one called 'Viv' or something like that I saw on the web, appeared quite attractive for a Katoey. Poor he/she/it seemed in a lot of pain because of ape-dick. There was this other famous shemale around called Annie or was it Fred ?
Baboon rides again ?
Yasu-
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:49 am on June 29, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from JackRabbit on 3:24 pm on June 29, 2006
Being paid does not make it un-humiliating.
Congrats - you've just essentially condemned every one on this forum for what they do, and every instance of P4P.
Could you possibly paint with a broader brush?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:19 am on June 29, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from Yurune on 5:52 pm on June 29, 2006
Nigel is one horrible man.... One of thousands who visit Bangkok..... and there are probably many who've visited this forum.....
Some people protest too much.
Bear in mind, Nigel's not the owner of the websites... He's just an instrument of filth.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:30 am on June 29, 2006
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Baskoy
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Quote: from JackRabbit on 3:24 pm on June 29, 2006
could you bring an example of that hypocrisy
This is a quote from another well known thread by a member who was taking the moral highground previously in this thread
"1. Fighting down her nausea (sorry Cunnilinguist! I simply couldn't resist that low blow... er... cheap shot...er, low shot... Well, the next beer's on me if we meet... We know that those girls suck cock with a dedication that's like second nature).
2. Catching her breath--it's hard to breathe with that thing down her throat. "
In this he's chatting light heartedly about the reason a girl stopped mid blow.
This is the hypocrisy I'm talking about...
This is Bangkok, there is something for everyone and always someone willing to provide what you want for a price. Now you can either paddle around in the shallows or jump in the deep end, but we are all in the same pool.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 7:25 am on June 29, 2006
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seajohn
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Quote: from Finchy on 5:22 pm on June 29, 2006
Lets see now....
That's a fair point. It seems that everyone can expound upon what attracts them and what repels them well enough. To a third party those two categories might even seem like the same thing. But to the participants experiencing it subjectively it is not. I wouldn't call that hypocracy, but it is evidence that people's own system of taste and morality is complex and can seem (maybe is) contradictory to another. So yes, it's always good to step back for perspective.
In fact on occasion I've stepped so far back for perspective that I've found myself out of the picture all together! Another story.
Anyway, for my part I've admitted that I've only seen a couple short 10-20 (?) min films, which was enough for me (that is, I was left with the impressions I have been trying to articulate here, all I could do, rather than making them a subject of further personal research). Maybe that's not enough for others. So, without being facetious, I beg leave to gladly and willingly bow out of the discussion on the basis of lack of experience with the subject.
Enjoy, gentlemen and may the night favor you with happy experiences!
EDIT IN: oops Baskoy, I didn't get a chance to read your post before I just posted mine (we may have been writing simultaneously). It was gracious of you to select me to quote in one of my whimsical moments. However I hope I've answered you somewhat above.... I recognize that the issues are complex and what seems to be may not be so for those actually in the thick of it. As I say, I think you also have made a fair point. I thought that I was more expressing my reaction to what I've seen of the Nigel films, rather than taking a moral high ground. But if my strong distaste has led me into such an undefendable position then of course it is my own gaff; I withdraw and tip my sword to you sir.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:25 am on June 29, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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Human nature and peoples ability to continually attempt to turn "black and white " into grey never ceases to amaze me.
Nigels films are dirty,vile, degrading, humiliating, disgusting and ILLEGAL !!!,,,, no grey, just,"black and white",fuken wrong.
I have read as others say but it's only a bit more than so and so or is it any worse than so and so,, I DON"T care,, its WRONG and it needs to be stopped.
Do I have the right to act as judge and executioner??? Well that is certainly an arguable point and would begin a thread longer than the correct thai word for Krung Thep.
I leave it, to the Thai authorities to decide, surely no one will argue with their rights to judge said material and enforce the laws of their own country.
At least this thread has highlighted what different members find acceptable and each persons views on the personal freedom verses acceptable standards argument. It has also shown the lengths some people will go to in attempting to vindicate their argument i.e compairing this to a "specialty club" and a " BJ bar" which is ludicrous in the extreme.
For Nigels supporters please visit him and his group regularly as their stay, fully paid for by the Thai authorities, will be a very long and uncomfortable one.
THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN SOMEWHERE.
Cheers
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:16 pm on June 29, 2006
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JackRabbit
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 7:20 pm on June 29, 2006
Congrats - you've just essentially condemned every one on this forum for what they do, and every instance of P4P.
Could you possibly paint with a broader brush?
Great DD, great !
Being paid of being filmed and doing the things in those films.
Slow sometimes, are we ?
JR
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:26 pm on June 29, 2006
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Finchy
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Mel Gibson
It isnt black and white at all. You said Nigels films are 'dirty, vile, degrading, humiliating, disgusting and ILLEGAL'. Well so is prostitution, something which you yourself partake in. Go down to one of the local NGO places and ask them what they think of your penchant for paying young poor girls for sex. They will say that it isnt black and white, it is wrong fullstop. In reality we both know it isnt.
Why was my argument about Eden/SoL ludicrous? My point was that what he does is basically the same as many guys do here, except he puts it on the net (and pays more). Why is it dirty, vile etc etc for a guy to pay a willing girl to f***/suck on video yet not when it is in a bar?
The truth is he does not physically hurt the girls, ie beat them etc. He is hardly the most sophisticated lover out there, but that is the style - basically smutty whore shagging. Do the girls enjoy it? I seriously doubt it, but then how many BGs really enjoy their work (unless of course it a young, handsome stud like me  ).
Most of the degrading stuff is written on the site itself. How many of them read it and understand it? There are far far worse sites than this.
I am not a supporter of Nigel, but I dont think he is as bad as some make out. And if the Thai authorities were going to bang him up, they would have done it a long time ago. They know exactly who he is and what he is doing. Someone clearly is paying the right person and as long as they keep doing so, there is little chance of them getting locked up.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:50 pm on June 29, 2006
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from Mel Gibson on 10:17 am on June 30, 2006
Nigels films are dirty,vile, degrading, humiliating, disgusting and ILLEGAL !!!,,,, no grey, just,"black and white",fuken wrong.
Well so is P4P illegal in Thailand, so most of us in here would be in the slammer if all said laws were enforced.
There is a lot of grey area's in many area's concerning people views. Most everyone can agree on the basic crimes being wrong such as murder, stealing, cheating, etc.., but when it comes to morality laws people have a wide variety views. More people have been punished for these so called victim less crimes than all the others combined.
I happen to view the forcing of woman to wear all black wrapped up like a mummy with only their eyes showing very vile, degrading, humilating and disgusting to woman. I am sure no woman wants to be dressed like that especially in Bangkok sweating her ass off in the hot sun.
Yes the line should be drawn when one human forces and/or acts to against their will and of course this consent cannot be made by someone under age.
Too bad in the name of religion this will never be done as it is the prime agenda of relgions to restrict the personnal freedom of individuals.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:03 pm on June 29, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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Finchy,, You have accused me of an un-lawful act,, please document your EVIDENCE of said crimes as they will probably be required at the "Defamation hearing"
Yes, your comparison with what happens in SOL and Eden is LUDICROUS,, I have never seen or heard of anyone doing there, what your mate Nigel does. Please proove me wrong and supply pictures of SOL ladies licking cum off toilet seats, and Eden clients writing obscenities with the girls excrament.
More rediculous statements by you "The truth is he does not physically hurt the girls",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so you where present at each and every encounter??? or just more bull-shit to justify your opinion?
The right people may well have been paid,, but now the right people ( very high in the food chain) have been contacted to ensure these people get what is coming to them.
Thaidup,,, victimless crimes??? WTF,, the victims are in the films,, and Thai society is also a victim.
As for women in black muslim suits, I agree it is disgusting and I fully support any action taken against it ( i.e Aus troops in Iraq and Afganistan).
Prime agenda of religion is to restrict personal freedoms WTF, I actually thought religions primary agenda was to encourage faith ??? I must have missed the vital peices you got.
We can go on with this forever, but I doubt people will change their stance on the subject. It is of little consequence as Nigel and his compatriots will soon be licking sticky rice off a Thai gaol floor.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:48 pm on June 29, 2006
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