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paddyc01
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There is a famous saying I have heard over and over again since I started going to LOS.
"You can take the girl out of the bar but can not take the bar out of the girl"
Now if you are like me you have more than likely read many books on LOS, in particular the girls. You know the usual story. Farang meet Bar Girl, bar girl f*** Farang, Farang fall in love.
So thinking back to the original saying. Can you really take the bar out of the girl?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:21 pm on July 20, 2006
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LocalYokul
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did you fall in love with a BG ??
this whole thing is entirely up to the gal
and another big factor is how long she's been working in a bar
the stain of P4P gets deeper the longer they are in the industry
some of them might have set out from the beginning to find themselves a nice man to marry and get away from the industry
some might not find that guy soon enough, so get stained, so stained that when they finally do meet the guy of their dreams, they f*** it up by continuing to see other customers against his wishes
best bet is to pick them up as they are getting off the bus from upcountry, 555
I did that once, and the gal still ended up being a non-caring, except for the money, type of gal. She already had been desensitized, or maybe she had TBF back home making her work to clear his debts
so it's up to the situation the gal has chosen this work, and her hopes for the future, and of course how stained she is from the scene
my opinion is that it's possible to find a good one, but they are one in a million
so how do you tell when you have the genuine gal who really wants to be with you ?, not just for the money...
on the other side of the coin, isn't she concerned that you can't take the bars out of the monger... ?
are you still going to travel to LOS to f*** prositutes (her sisterhood) ?
or if you live in LOS, are you still going to stop by SoL or wherever for a BJ on the way home ?
if you do, she will hear about it, and wonder why she bothered leaving the industry since you seem to love it so much
there's always two sides to any issue, sometimes more...
ever watch Heaven & Earth ?, the Oliver Stone film...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:05 pm on July 20, 2006
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ThaidUp
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Fuuny you should mention this as I just got a message from a BTF member about his on going happy marriage to a former BG. You tend to hear about all the whore stories and not the success stories as many people after finding a gem want to distance themselves from all that reminds them about her/his past.
I truely believe that there are some girls that have their wits about them, realise their potential future and then select a man that will get them out of their life into a better one and never look back.
I think this is all summed up by a large multi-bar owner when asked about his high turn-over of girls...."Well if a TG ends up working for any bar longer than 6 months, she is either stupid, lazy, ugly or all three"
It is my belief that you have to catch them early in the cycle before they become hardend.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:08 pm on July 20, 2006
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LastSurvivor
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Yes, it is possible. My wife and I are VERY happy. As mentioned earlier it depends on her length of time in the bar and also the reasons she works in the bar. She has 12 years of education and I knew she was different when I met her. Her reasons for working were her mothers intentions to marry her to a well-to-do Thai guy from the village and she basically left home. She has been here 7 months and is VERY happy. As a result I'm pretty damn happy as well. She has told a mutual friend of ours that she never wants to live in Thailand again. That in itself is unusual.
LS
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 7:44 pm on July 20, 2006
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Finchy
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LY makes a very good point here. Many guys complain that the girls are all hard-nosed bitches who are only out to use us and will never be faithfull, but how many guys come here, promise the girls the earth then drop them for a newer, younger model, or screw anything and everything behind their backs. You cant blame some of them for becoming hardened and thinking f*** it, I'll take what I can get from this guy before he leaves me.
LastSurvivor, congratulations. Proof that just because a girl has worked a bar does not automatically preclude her from being a good wife/mother, the same as being a 'good girl' with a 'good career' etc does not necessarily mean they will be perfect marriage material.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:26 pm on July 20, 2006
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MickTheKick
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I once translated this saying "You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl" into the BGs point of view... How about this one:
BG rule: You meet him in a bar but he will always hate you for beeing a bargirl...
Paddy, such sayings are good for illustrating one aspect of a complex situation, they are not meant for answering the real questions of life and one thing is damned sure: all people are different and there's not one single rule that applies to just anybody...
Can they change? Well, some can, some can't...
Ask youself:
Do *you* really want mature love?
Are *you* ready for mature love?
If yes, do you really know her, do you understand her? Where's she coming from, what's she looking for?
And then: Does she understand who you are?
(Note: understanding TGs is rocket science, but we have some real smart ass Einsteins in the brotherhood, so keep on posting/reading...)
And *please*, don't even think about marriage before you can answer all these questions with a clear "Maybe..." LOL
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:50 pm on July 20, 2006
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paddyc01
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Good answers guys.
In answer to your question LY, no I have not fallen in love with one. I fall in love with them all
It’s just a question I often wondered after reading so many books (I must stop reading them damn things).
I will admit though if I was to fall for one the fact she used to work in a bar would not be an issue. As many of you have pointed out that is exactly why we go. Her going back to the bar would be a BIG issue.
As for LS, congratulations. Glad it all worked out for you.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:08 pm on July 20, 2006
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from LastSurvivor on 8:52 am on July 21, 2006
Yes, it is possible. My wife and I are VERY happy. As mentioned earlier it depends on her length of time in the bar and also the reasons she works in the bar. She has 12 years of education and I knew she was different when I met her. Her reasons for working were her mothers intentions to marry her to a well-to-do Thai guy from the village and she basically left home. She has been here 7 months and is VERY happy. As a result I'm pretty damn happy as well. She has told a mutual friend of ours that she never wants to live in Thailand again. That in itself is unusual.
LS
Not unusual and let me explain some of the reasons. First, it is hard for most Thai's (men and Women) to adapt outside of Thailand. I can say this based upon experience as I have moved several Thai's for 6-12 month stays in the USA. The woman usually faired off better than the men.
Second, one of the major voids to fill is Thai food. If you are living in and/or near a major city especially in CA you have a good source of both Asian supermarkets and Thai restaurants that solves this issue.
Once the basic needs are met, there is more disadvantages of her returning to Thailand.
1. Your girlfriend/wife's main circle of previous friends consists mainly of BG's. Any type of further meetings with them will only add to them supplying peer pressure in many ways to accompany them in their lifestyle be it drugs, drinking, gambling, etc. The more time she stays away from that lifestyle the more she is alienated to it and for the most part this is not a part of life that she wants to remember anyhow.
2. Then there are the trips back to the home town, whereever that may be. Well given that she is married to a farang and living in the USA she will be viewed as hitting the mother load lottery. Once she is home she will be hit up by every Tom, Dick and Harry relative and friends for some money hand outs and also deemed by proxy to sponsor any welcome back home parties. It gets real tiring saying no and she is put into a bad position of either having to say no to her relatives and family friends and asking you for money. Hey even the local monks from the temple jump on this GT.
And to make matters worse, even though she may be doling out the baht, these country people have nothing better to do than gossip behind her back and any TG marrying a farang is thought of damaged goods and subject to ridicule about working in a bar, no matter the circumstances under which you met.
3. Now if she does in fact live in up country somewhere, this is not some place that most men will want to stay for any length of time. Squat toilets, cold showers and no aircon gets old real fast. So given that probably either leaves you either staying alone in BKK proper or staying at home. Being a good wife/girlfriend she will know for most men it will be just a matter of time when you cannot resist being taken care of in bed and may begin to wonder off be it bars, MP's escorts all of which may lead to the demise of the relationship and you jumping ship for another girl.
So as you can see it is all virtually down side for her.
LS, It sounds to me that your wife has some smarts about her. The best thing for you to do is keep her English training up and get her driving in the USA that should empower her.
Given the culture she has some obligation to send some money to her family, but send some sort of monthly allowance to them is the better choice than her having to visit them.
I call it hush money. When the family start complaining about seeing her she can always give them a choice of. Well, I can come see you, but then I cannot send any more money every month for a year in order to pay for our trip back home. Almost all will not forgo the monthly payments and Shut The f*** Up.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:22 pm on July 20, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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See what happens when people missunderstand what was initially said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,idiots.
The initial statement was
"You can take the girl out of the bar but can not take the bar out of the girl"
Now you guys have miss-read,, in this true statement the initial bar IS a drinking bar,, the second "bar" is a hard penis " a bar".
The statement is fact,, well my experience is that 99% of the times that I have taken a girl out of the drinking establishment I didn't want to remove my hard-on from inside her.
I may be wrong,,, actuaally the only time I remember being wrong was when I thought I was wrong but was later prooved correct, so therefore being wrong.
Think about that one...... Who was on second right?
Cheers
TOOO much time on my hands to think,, LOS October HURRY UP!!!!
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:36 pm on July 20, 2006
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PopSecret
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Sure, it's possible, but why bother?
I don't go to titty bars in the US looking for the love of my life; why the f*** would I go to a sex bar in Thailand looking for a long term relationship? Why not learn to speak and read Thai and then look for a regular Thai girl whose business is something other than f***ing other men? Then try to make the relationship work as you get to know each other.
Just because you're in Thailand doesn't mean you should suddenly start looking for love in all the wrong places. Sometimes this forum just makes me want to laugh with all the bullshit about settling down with bar girls and how to make it work out right in the end. Sure, it's possible, but why not look for a girl who isn't busy f***ing other guys day and night?
Guys who can't find a decent girl back home come to Thailand and try to hook up with a bar girl and then they find out that they bit off more than they could chew. What about all those millions of non-bargirls out there? The only thing keeping you from them is your lack of language skills and your willingness to f*** whores.
Put some real effort into it if you want a true relationship and stop trying to buy your way into happiness. As for me personally, I'd rather just f*** around instead of building another relationship. To each his own.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:53 pm on July 20, 2006
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