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Sometimes I think the attraction is the working girls attitude all by itself. Having also played alot in other settings like Eastern Europe or Brazil, you find that there are many of the same attractions there and inducement to cheat on a spouse or regular girlfriend. In a working girl is someone who is open to just about any suggestion you have. Sure you are paying for it, but a good one makes you feel like they love your suggestion. My wife on the other hand, tried a BJ one time 20 years ago and said never again. She is a nice person, but anything other than normal missionary sex is totally forbidden.
Of course begin a relationship with a working girl, and suddenly you find they are just as jeaolous and possesive as any spouse would be. And on top of that they will even withhold some things they gladly do for pay. I had one Thai GF that I met while she was freelancing. After we transitioned from client to something other, she decided that she wasn't into doing BJ's as often. She said once I was her boyfriend, she did not want to feel that she had to perform on que. Even a working girl recognizes a relationship is a two way street with give and take, but when you are a customer paying, you dictate within the bounds of the contract.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:46 am on June 17, 2004
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cyborg
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I have been with the same sweet lady for 12 years. We are planning to marry next year. I do not lie to her about my LOS adventures I merely keep details and photos to myself. She is a very jealous lady so how did I pull this off you ask?
Here is the trick: When we first got together I decided that the relationship was going to be on my terms or it was not going to be. I had just gotten out of a divorce from a woman that I had allowed to run my life and had been miserable. I vowed to forget the ALan Alda soft man BS and was going to wear the pants and be a real man.
After a time I found that if you are kind, loving and generous with a woman she will appreciate you being a real man and will happily settle into her proper role. (Read traditional)
Anyhow...after having her totally in love with me I asked her if she would be into swinging. She is sexually conservative and said no. I asked her if she thinks it is worse for a man to have sex with another lady or if it is worse to develop a relationship with another lady? Upon thinking about this she decided that a relationship was more of a threat than just sex.
I asked her if it would be fair for me to push her into having swinging adventures? She says no. I then ask her if it is fair for her to push me into NOT having swinging adventures?
Bottom line I set this all up after she was madly in love with me but before any solid commitments were made. Early on in your relationship is the only time you have real power if you are unafraid to exercise it you too can have a compromise that works. We have agreed that I can go to LOS once a year and play as long as I do not get attached or have ongoing communications with these girls. In exchange I will not play around home.
Guys....be a real man...do it early in your relationship and you too can have your cake and eat it too. I respect her more for being open minded and she respects me more for not lying to her.
Loving life.....
Cyborg
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:01 am on June 19, 2004
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Brocher
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"We have agreed that I can go to LOS once a year and play as long as I do not get attached or have ongoing communications with these girls"
Cyborg
I reckon a lot of guys would like to have your type of relationship with their partner but how do you stop the involvement thingy......Have you got an on/off switch that controls your emotions...;)
I find it hard not to get involved, not enough cynasism obviously! So do you have a policy of ST only and only one bonk per BG?
Cheers
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:31 am on June 19, 2004
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silentbob1234
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So how do you know she's not getting her freak on while you're away in Thailand?
Women are like cats at times. Sneaky and occasionally conniving while taking great care in covering up their tracks when "catting" around.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:59 am on June 19, 2004
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Egor
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Brocher,
Your question triggered me to write down my story.
Here goes.
I met my wife 17 years ago and we are happily married now for 12 years. She is Latin American and grew up in Central America. Fact of life is that there most men, married or not, have multiple girlfriends with kids. That pretty much formed her idea of what to expect from married life.
Much to her surprise I have always stayed a one-girl guy and was happy to be so. Never cheated, never even tempted.
Last few years she is becoming afraid that I will get into a midlife crises and that I eventually will seek sex with younger women, fall in love and in the process will dump her. Her remedy for that is to let me have paid, meaningless sex with girls so I won’t have the urge to start an affair with, let’s say, somebody from work. Something that could really threaten our marriage. I always laughed at her suggestions and told her she was safe with me.
And than she made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. We were discussing our vacation in Thailand and suddenly she says: “wouldn’t you like to have a Thai massage and have sex with a TG when we are there”. She didn’t really surprise me with that question because she always thought that the perfect birthday present for me would be having sex with two hookers, but I always kept her from arranging that. The massage and sex thing didn’t sound that bad and behind my PC I started to explore the possibilities. At this point it could still go either for me. But then, after an hour of serving the internet I found this forum. - thanks guys for changing my life forever  -. A new world opened up for me and from all the stories I read here I decided to visit Poseidon or Darling when in BKK.
So, we are in BKK and one night I ask my wife if it’s ok for me to go to Poseidon. I totally surprised her with my question and the fact that I also knew where to go surprised her even more. I had to convince her that the place was safe and clean and that I wouldn’t go with a heroine hooker. In the end she is fine with it and she wishes me a great time.
The experience at Poseidon really knocked me of my feet. The sex was Ok; I hadn’t had sex with another woman in 17 years so it took some getting used to it. But the girl was just fantastic, beautiful, playful, sexy and I saw a glimpse of what GFE might be. When I came back to the hotel my wife wanted to know every little dirty detail. The story made us so horny that we jumped into bed and had great sex, actually far better then with the Poseidon girl … but different. Two weeks later we were back in BKK again (after a trip up north) and she was ok with me going to Darling. Had the same wonderful experience that is with the girl and afterwards with the wife.
After this trip I have come to the next agreement with my wife:
-I can go to BKK once a year for 12 days or so;
-I should play it safe all the time;
-When I return from BKK I have to get tested on STDs and I only get HJs from her until the tests show I’m clean. HJs are Sazanka style so I’m ok with that.
-Last but not least I should not get involved with a girl or stay in touch with one.
I just returned from my second trip, not counting the one with my wife. And three problems have surfaced.
One; I explained to my wife that a HIV test is not very useful in the first three months after I get back. Guess what her reaction was… So this might put an end to my adventures in BKK. Not a closed subject yet but she is not happy about it. I’ll let it rest for 8 months or so and than try again. 
Two; although I try to hide it form my wife; she knows that I’m having a Post LOS depression. After 17 years there is not much that I can hide from her. So, she knows it is becomming more to me that just sex.
Three; at the moment I am convinced that I will never fall for a working TG. But on my last trip I had a kick-ass time again and I wonder how I will react if I meet a TG who pushes all my right buttons. One has come close already and it does get to me. On my next trip I’ll try to avoid her… I think.
So to sum things up
I have an agreement with my wife that I can go to BKK once a year. But the problems with the HIV test and my Post LOS depression might make her revoke her approval. And then there is that (slight?) chance I will fall for a TG after all. I don’t want to make a choice, I just want it all. But if the missus pushes me I will give up my trips to wonderland.
Help me out here guys ….. nah, just kidding, I’ll work it out 
Cheers
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:22 am on June 19, 2004
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cyborg
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Brocher.
Dont know if you have read my FRs from my recent trips. I went last year in Oct and then again this past Feb.I went back the second time to be with an amazing lady that I truly fell for in Oct.
How do I keep from getting attached....answer is I did not. Of course my fiance knows nothing of this. I am having terrible problems cutting free of this lady because I have been emailing with her extensively. I think I have it licked but it is truly challenging. On future trips my intent is to only mildly taste the GFE. I will from now on tell the lady that I am married (She will think I am scum and thus less desirable to pursue and less likely to catch) I will not exchange email addresses or phone anymore. It is simply too much of a distraction from my home life and keeps the bond alive. (Bad thing)
Egor, I know the feeling...it is very hard to pretend that you do not miss Thailand terribly. I think you can get around that by simply telling her that it is just that you get a lot of attention from ladies and thus you feel like a rock star. It is something to miss....never tell her about any one lady being special. Do tell her that these women are all liars just trying to get a mans money...not true exactly but true enough. If she beleves that you would never fall for one of these lovely ladies she will worry less.
Another thing I love about LOS is the thought that if my fiance ever decided to leave me or I leave her for whatever reason I will always have LOS for simple vacations, a totally new life or a vast resource of opportunities for a new upgraded lady to bring home.
LOS is always there for us guys...it is really the only thing I see that balances out the overwhelming power that attractive women wield in our home countries.
If they piss me off bad enough I will go Asian and never again Caucasian. HA!
Cyborg
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Posted on: 1:23 am on June 20, 2004
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Brocher
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"I will from now on tell the lady that I am married (She will think I am scum and thus less desirable to pursue and less likely to catch) "
Hi Cyborg
Thanks for the insight, I'll try your way next time. About 2 years ago I met a great BG and spent a couple of days with her. On my next trip I saw her in her bar and she came running over and covered me with kisses etc., I was flattered and surprised as it had been 6 months since we met. Then I asked her, "What about that guy you're sitting with?", she looked at me and with a lovely smile said, "Him no problem, he customer same you, no problem". That brought me down to earth (for a day or two!) but I still haven't learnt my lesson.
Cheers
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:56 am on June 20, 2004
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NaughtiusMaximus
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EGor, why don't you get your missus to join in, then she wont feel left out and it can be a lot of fun. The sex with the missus after and during can also be excellent.
You guys that are married or have long term gf's, you should consider what I do, I tell a girl straight away I am married. That way, she knows exactly what she is getting and what she can expect. I have found this to work extremely well, I get no attachments except for some friends, I know that when walking in the street if we bump into anyone we will not be embarrassed and I dont get phone calls or emails. But when we have fun, we have fun and it stays at that. But you need the strength to tell them upfront, 99% of them dont give a sh_t and continue as normal anyway.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:02 am on June 20, 2004
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LocalYokul
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I got a feeling that when CyBorg's old lady doesn't love him as much as before she'll also be revoking the liberty passes for LOS
and also start asking a lot of irrational questions about what went on here...
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 3:02 am on June 20, 2004
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cyborg
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Well Local Yokul, It has been over 12 years. I have been going to LOS the whole time. We have tentative plans to have a retirement home there to spend half the year. Doesnt sound like she is getting more sensitive to it rather less so. I can likely see a time in future years where her sex drive slows a bit and she may appreciate me finding other outlets so to speak.
As far as me falling out of love with her...she is great!! Why would I want to give up my cake and be able to eat it too? I forsee a happy future.
Guys, if you want to arrange something like this with your women Western or Eastern then let them know the score up front and do so after they are well hooked. If you try to wait until later it will be impossible.If you do not have the level of charm and whatever else is necessary to pull this off then you may not have a relationship that will last anyway with the lady you have chosen to make your life with.
I sincerely believe that women of all types including professional driven career women can be massaged into accepting such a compromise if it is done correctly. It takes a bit of time though. Also I have found it helpful to read or watch shows (Discovery channel etc) that discuss the subject of sexuality. (Get those PHds to make your case for you) Without going into it too much I have fully indoctrinated her into a clear understanding that men need variety just as much as women need comfort and security. Why should she get what she needs but the man should not?? A one sided relaationship where one person gets there needs met and the other does not IMHO is the definition of toxic.
Dont forget to discuss the unhealthy nature of the social conditioning that has led to so many toxic relationshipos which turn the otherwise perfectly wonderful man into a resentful lying sneak around guy simply because he is allowed NO outlet for his differnt but equally healthy needs! I think Thai ladies may be a bit more understanding of this.....just a bit. Maybe??
Never rub it in your ladies face and if everything else in your relationship is a healthy match you could have a great life together without resentment or bullsh_t...I hate bullsh_t.
Cyborg.
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Posted on: 7:12 am on June 20, 2004
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