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CalEden
"I have seen them called whores, thieves and sluts by a poster, early in this thread.  I really hate that kind of characterization.  It's so clearly about the poster, and has so little to do with any real woman.  They're ugly words, and while I'm aware that thieves exist, what BGs do for a living can hardly be described as thievery. "

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Posted on: 2:54 am on Jan. 19, 2003
jjsushi

Quote: from MX31 on 1:05 pm on Jan. 19, 2003
As I said...*if* I wrote a plain post stating the obvious, no one would haved read it twice or gave it a speck of attention. ÝBut when one reads something that makes them think (at least enough to respond here anyway) or get their panties in a bunch, IMHO it makes more of an impact or at least something to learn from.

When one is slapped with reality, it should be more benficial than just some "you can't trust all Thai girls" statement .  .  .
It saddens me that guys here get insulted by these words I write, but I would also hope it adds another protective layer to one's skin regarding these girls. Hell, Stickman wrote a lot of negative things about BGs here and I just thought he was a guy who saw it like it was, not like how others wanted him to see it.






Somehow you still think that people had a problem with the basis of your message. IMO that was not the problem.  The problem was the tone you projected, along with a smug and insulting writng style.
Your message was not new, informative nor illuminating.
You wonder why everyone is focusing on the messenger instead of the message? Easy. Your "I'm in on the game of fleecing you suckers" method was very ineffectual because it made people ask "Why would a perpetrator tell the sucker he is the sucker?" You then compound you ineffective method with " I am just joking, are you people too dimwitted to figure that out?" along with the cliche "I am Superior man with better looks, intelligence and life successes than all of you"(do you know how many times guys on this board here that one?).

In order for the message to be accepted and effective the messenger has to project some form of credibility.  You failed the credibility test and guys picked up on that.  Your fatal flaw was that you did not understand your audience.
Goodness, if you just presented your point in the clear and concide manner you have taken to explain yoursef in the last couple of posts, I am sure your message would have been accepted and appreciated.


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Posted on: 5:55 am on Jan. 19, 2003
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Posted on: 6:07 am on Jan. 19, 2003
Chompoo

As I said...*if* I wrote a plain post stating the obvious, no one would haved read it twice or gave it a speck of attention. ÝBut when one reads something that makes them think (at least enough to respond here anyway) or get their panties in a bunch, IMHO it makes more of an impact or at least something to learn from.
Yeah, and how's that approach working out for you? Maybe Mensa should retest you.

You have zero credibility and have added absolutely no new info or opinions on this topic so far. Your ideas are very simplistic and ill-formed; I'd say you're about at stage 3 out of 10 on the path most farang go through in understanding and dealing with bargirls. You've gone past the infatuation and rose-tinted glasses and have completely swung around to the point where you want to generalize all of them as liars and whores and that all the guys giving them money are old fools. In the later stages of this journey you'll understand it's a lot more complex than that.

The other guys have responded to the more ridiculous parts of you posts, but they have a tendency to coddle idiots and assholes.

If you want to be taken seriously on this board, I suggest you kill off MX31 and come back as a more well-behaved, rational poster. You'll still be an asshole, but if you try hard you can keep it under wraps.


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Posted on: 6:10 pm on Jan. 20, 2003
ABC
Chompoo:
Well said. His credibility is nothing and it will be more work to re-establish it then to kill the profile and come back as another one.

And ... I could not agree with you more about all the generalizations.


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Posted on: 6:20 pm on Jan. 20, 2003
MX31
Well, since you seem to want to personally attack me, I will return the serve and respond. I was going to bail on this thread as people were just getting way too serious over themselves.  But, you made it personal...so let's have some fun......

I see that your numerous posts (what, around 1,000 Chompoo) and other reasons known only to yourself seem to make you the "resident" expert here.  Well, stand up and be proud.  Hmmm...'I' have no clue?  If that is so, then you are first in line in that department.  I really do not take bar girls all that seriously and certainly nothing on this thread seriously at all.  It was fun for sure, which is all I hope to get out this this board.
(Yes, this board is entertaining and good at it).
I enjoy the friendly banter, but it seems that you want to make it personal.  So be it, if that is what makes you feel better then go ahead and call me names all day, I am glad to help out your self esteem problem..  I won't stoop to calling someone these all so hurtful names (I think "idiot" and "asshole" was your wonderfully elaborate terminology...bravo!  You impress me).  I must say I am crying right now because you hurt me so much.  (Do I need to put in another sarcasm alert here?)

Get over yourself and maybe if you spent less time on the computer and more time in reality, you would feel better about yourself and feel less inclined to attack others who YOU have no clue about.  If you want to take the text on here and make YOUR generalizations.....then as I have mentioned before...Thailand will have fun with you.

I do not need to invent a new name and come back here.  I am not looking for any credibility on this board...just a few laughs, and I have to thank you because you have exceeded my expectations in that department!  5555

Regarding gneralizations, see my previous post which defines the use of generalizations regarding human behavior (the statistical significance post) so I have science backing my generalizations.  Maybe spending a number of years doing human behavior studies...oh, and my work being published in international psychiatric journals, might just support my use of these methods. I cannot help if you disagree with these scientific methods, you are totally entitled to your opinion.  But,  according to you, I am not entitled to mine.  Hmmmmm.

Someone once said "It ain't bragging if it's true."

Additionally, what I cannot seem to understand is that if you want to attack me so much, why don't you PM me and save the others this boring banter? (My post included) But I guess it helps to see your words up on the board which really is the big thing for you.

Man...almost 1,000 posts on here!!!  WOW!  You gonna have a party when you hit the big 1,000?  I can hear the phone call you will make to the loved ones back home on this one.  
"Hey folks...Mom, Dad...I hit the big 1,000!"  
"What are you talking about son?"
"One thousand posts...on one of Bangkok's biggest prostitution boards.....you know, on the Internet!"
"We are so proud of you son...we knew you would amount to something one day...and now you have!"

Get over yourself...if being the king of a prostitution board is your highlight in life.....then I tip my hat to the king! Long live the king!  I bow before your wisdom and experience!  Do I kiss your hand or your feet?

Okay...you wrote something....I responded, we are even......now if this is truely something you want to drag on, fine, then go PM with it.  If not, great, then cease your personal attacks, because I really like to banter with someone who uses more than 'asshole' and 'idiot' as their big line of offense.  Plus, your failure to go PM just appears to be "attention-seeking."  But, I am sure the smart people on here can see right through that and already know it.  

While I like nostalgia, and your posts have certainly taken me back to grade school, it gets boring quickly.  

Was it Shakespeare who wrote "Thou dost protest too much?"  Not sure if that is the correct spelling (go on and say my spelling sucks too).

And your constantly ragging on me...I am sure that makes you look like a real champ...right?  ZZZZZZZZZ

(Hey...I have an idea for a really great insult...call me an asshole....again.  Maybe...wait...this one owuld bury me......call me a really, really BIG asshole!  WOW!).

I will wait on here until I receive your wonderful PM!


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Posted on: 7:11 am on Jan. 22, 2003
MrJoe
Very good post Chompoo. Quite accurate I'd say; definitely about stage 3.

I always like these defenses:
"This is a board for losers." (Says the guy who is typing on this board).
"I don't take anything seriously on a board about prostitution." (Says the guy who triews to get people to take him seriously -- on this board.)

Both of these were favorite themes of BigOne. And then when there is no way to defend the position we have what I like to call The Nokna Defense:

"I was joking and I am amused that people take it seriouisly." (Again from the guy who tries quite hard to get people to take him seriously.)

Loved the bit about his scientific methods. Quite funny. I guess that was more of the part where he was just saying some bullshit to get people's attention or trying to be funny?

I'll save you the trouble MX; with my number of pposts I'm the biggest loser of all. And I "...doth protest too much.." indeed.


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Posted on: 8:17 am on Jan. 22, 2003
Chompoo
Let's see MX. You spent 90% of your post in a personal attack against me and my characterization of you as an idiot and an asshole. Only 10% of your post was spent on countering the claims I made against you.

You seem to think it is my intent to ridicule you in new and creative ways. That's not my job, Sauron filled that role well before I got here. My job is to lay out for you in excruciatingly obvious detail why you are such an idiot and an asshole, which I have done. What is the point in coming up with new terms when I've found two that sum up your character so succinctly?

Seriously, what would be the point of sending a PM to an idiotic asshole? That would only waste my time. I post in public for two reasons. One, I want everyone else to be absolutely clear of your nature; I really don't expect an asshole, let alone an idiotic one, to admit that to himself. Two, I give a chance for intelligent people to question my analysis; again I can't expect you to defend yourself adequately.

You may have been too dense to notice that I do not make wild personal attacks against people. I use only the facts in evidence, that is what you've said about yourself and the incredibly inane way you've presented yourself. I see that the bulk of your criticism against me is that apparently I've made too many posts on this board and that that somehow is meaningful to you.

But I do admire that you managed to eke out a response to one of the eight or so criticisms I had regarding your intelligence and character. We can just stick to arguing this one if that is easier for you (I made the same offer to others, so I think it's fair).

So let's see, your argument is that these "studies" allow you to make broad generalizations? No one has doubted that there is a statistically significant number of bargirls who are willing to cheat an overseas sponsor. And you will definitely have no problem finding lots of people here who will agree that blindly sending money to a bargirl is foolish. However, no "scientist" would make the gross generalizations and condemnations that you have made. The fact that even 90% of the girls are lying, thieving whores as you suggest, does not invalidate the fact that there are 10% honest girls and that some guys have made it work.

Statistically, BG marriages tend to fail. That certainly does not give you the right to come in here and start haranguing those who have done so successfully.

You know statistically, 70% of all farang residing in Thailand are losers who couldn't make it with attractive women in their own country. So, by your logic, I can conclude that you are such a loser. This is no less valid than your wild, untargeted accusation that you were sleeping with "my" girl while I'm sending her money.

It does really bug me when people try to pass crap like you've done as real science. You tarnish all the good behavioral scientists who carefully choose their words and avoid such gross errors.


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Posted on: 4:53 pm on Jan. 22, 2003
MX31
Well...I thank you for proving my point that the reason you will not take this 'off topic' issue private is as you state, in both of your statements, that you want others to read them. ÝI hardly think people need to analyze, as you say, you calling me an asshole yet ANOTHER time. Ý Or how about the wonderful "dense" attack. ÝWhat is there to analyze in that statement? Those attacks are about as shallow as can be...no analysis needed.

I do not go into a point by point analysis of whatever it is you write......because it is the same info every time. ÝYou keep saying "you are an idiotic asshole" in one version or another these are your same words.

Please do not put words in my mouth....I can spew this garbage with no help from you. Ý*I do not have to counter any of your claims.* Ý

You chose to attack me personally, I did not go after you. ÝYou came after me. ÝI do not know you from Adam, but you seem to know me pretty well as to come up with all these personal attacks based on my silly posts which you take oh so seriously. Ý

It sounds like you have been burnt too many times and got pissed at the reality of my statements. ÝYes, I was speaking about the 90% of the BG who are dishonest. ÝI was talking about the ones I encountered as well.

Now we agree, where before you accused me of "overgeneralizing" and yet now you agree with those exact statements...make up your mind...one post you agree with the same point...the next post you do not. I need a scorecard to keep up with you changing your mind from one post to the next.

Statistical significance allows me to generalize from the sample to the population in question, my friend. ÝIn dealing with human behavior, there are no absolutes and exceptions to every rule exist. I just alerted whoever that this is a relevant method of deduction. ÝYou are master at putting words in my mouth and twisting my statements around.

So...go on and on about me if that makes you feel good. ÝYou want others to pat you on the back and say...."that a boy Chompoo, you really told him!" ÝYes, you did, I am an asshole as you state as a fact..........say it enough times and maybe someone will believe it........you ragging on and on.........

Might I add that you have no clue about my behavioral work....and to compare my garbage written on a prostitution board to actual real writing and research is a joke, but you seem to think there is some relationship. AMAZING! I never said that my opinions were facts or science. ÝI have repeatedly stated my posts are not to be taken seriously....this is a prostitution board...who can take this fluff (mine included) seriously....relax and follow the advice of others here on where you can go have a little fun and unwind.........pay more attention to some girl instead of obsessing over me. ÝMaybe you didn't know, but I am a guy. ÝAlthough you have a female's screen name, I assume you are male.

I once had a female stalker, but never a male one Chompoo, so this is new to me......I hate to see what would happen if I show up at a round table....hmmmm.....wait......I may have already decided to go......do you promise to be a good boy if I do, you frisky devil? Ý

You sound like the typical bald, fat, and old sex tourist we see all too often. ÝNow using your logic, because I said it, does that make it true??? I have no idea who or what you are, and I am sure your mother loves you......I just threw it out there because I knew you would get all nutty about it and insult me some more.

Don't you get it......you are performing on cue! ÝI have decided to turn your obsession with me a little entertaining. ÝWould someone else give him an idea about what is happening here?!?! ÝSince you are a veteran on here, I am sure one of your buddies can explain it to you.

Again, I state, if you have a *legitimate* reason to keep obsessing over me and attacking me...take it private. ÝOtherwise, you are just attention seeking and I can refer you to a good therapist if that is the case. ÝYour next round of attacks will answer my question.

I apologize to others for having to be bothered with this off topic reply......tell your leader to take it private and
this will end. ÝHe chooses to keep going on...what are you afraid of by taking it private?  No one needs to analyze my silly posts, that's for sure.........


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Posted on: 1:21 am on Jan. 23, 2003
MrJoe
Chompoo ain't MY leader and I seriously doubt that anyone here feels so lacking in self-esteem that they have deemed himor any other member of the board as such. Why are you participating if you insist on insulting the whole board with such an assertion? And this board is indeed not a noble calling or of any great significance in the grand scheme of things -- but why are you here?

As you have never actually responded to any of my points other than to cast more unpleasantness about -- and actually I'm quite grateful for the lack of dialogue (or abuse exchange) with you -- I don't expect you to respond to this one. I'd just as soon have you continue to ignore me if you can't respond reasonably and rationally...

Though I would still like to know how you can justify the comment about 90% (or whatever your scientific data was) of Thai parents teaching thier kids to be successful prostitutes. Or do you care to retract?


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Posted on: 1:41 am on Jan. 23, 2003
     

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