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CalEden
The neutron bomb does not exist, it was proposed but never built. A bomb that killed only people and left the infrastructure undamaged was considered uncivilised. So the Regan Administration was not allowed to pursue the neutron bomb.


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Posted on: 11:36 pm on April 20, 2007
barrafish

Quote: from Sarge on 1:05 pm on April 21, 2007
"The Europeans reluctantly followed the Americans but they did contribute to the war both in military assets and economic terms".


Please feel free to correct me if I am mistaken. Sarge, the website you kindly directed us too appears to be made up of comments and the like in early 2005, Jan/Feb/March.

Now something in the back of my mind tells me that France/Spain and a few other nations pulled out of the coalition a long time ago, maybe they got cold feet. Strange that Australia is still there and has only last week told 450 commandos to pack their bags and head to Afghanistan.

So I just cannot figure out why large populous countries have fled and aussies that started with the USA/UK are sending in more troops. Hmmmm.

Lot of water under the bridge since early 2005. Now let me see, where is that dollar going too.


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Posted on: 1:32 am on April 21, 2007
DaffyDuck

Quote: from CalEden on 1:21 pm on April 21, 2007

The neutron bomb does not exist, it was proposed but never built. A bomb that killed only people and left the infrastructure undamaged was considered uncivilised. So the Regan Administration was not allowed to pursue the neutron bomb.
The project was officially killed, and made impossible to pursue further, originally under the Jimmy Carter administration.

The neutron bomb *does* exist (or rather, did exist beyond that time frame), as the last was dismantled in 2003 (as ordered by George W. Bush).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb




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Posted on: 2:39 am on April 21, 2007
cheapcharlie

Quote: from quack quack on 11:46 pm on April 20, 2007


Problem with nuking is that Israel happens to be located dead center of your proposed nuke arena.

How about Christians, there are plenty of those around in your nuke arena?
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Just give christians and Expatchuck 48 hrs to get out, give the moslims a choice give up allah or die, in the mean time send the tossers we have here back. One bigbomb should do it.

Promise israel they can have the area of land that was Iran or Saudi when it becomes inhabitabal again, sure the would go for it. If god does exist im sure he would agree


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Posted on: 8:21 am on April 21, 2007
DaffyDuck

Quote: from cheapcharlie on 10:06 pm on April 21, 2007

give the moslims a choice give up allah or die
Why?


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Posted on: 10:42 am on April 21, 2007
cheapcharlie

Quote: from cheapcharlie on 10:06 pm on April 21, 2007

give the moslims a choice give up allah or die
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 6:27 am on April 22, 2007


Why?
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Perhaps because I have no more tolerance to this medieval hogshit. Its not only in their own shithole countries now but brought to ours. We just shook off the grip of the catholic church after hundreds of years of repression and bullshit and now these motherf***ers climb from under a rock and want to take things back to the year dot. This religion and the countries supporting it are really a terrible mistake so like the dinasaurs wipe them out and start again.
Ignore at your peril, human beings do not chop off hands and feet, or heads in public, this is lower than animals and gives sick a new meaning. Such societys dont deserve to exist in the modern world and like a cancer should be eradicated. Like putting a sick animal to sleep.


Politicians in europe have given our countries over to barbarians, its said in 50 yrs Islam will be the main religion in europe thanks to such stupidity.

Spanish newspaper article on Judaism (In English)

" ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez (*)

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz.
We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world. The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime. Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts. And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.


http://muttawa.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_muttawa_archive.html#108292507366824950


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Posted on: 2:47 pm on April 21, 2007
Sarge
barrafish, the idea was to give you a flavour of the (unsatisfactory, from my point of view) commitment of Europeans to Iraq war. To show the great number of countries that participated under the American command, their troops and military assets deployment on the ground (and the fatalities suffered) and economic contribution to the cause. Yes, a lot of things have moved since then (mostly for the worse, see sunni-shia civil war), and many EU countries have withdrawn their contingents, but still retain economic and (shaky) political support. Part of the reason of them getting "cold feet", as you succinctly put it, was that some suffered massive suicide terrorists attacks (see train bombings in Madrid before general elections - almost 200 people died and suicide bombing on the Italian HQ in Nasiriya - 17 troops died) but also more importantly is because Western Europe has a massive Muslim population, projection for 2006 census is in excess of 15m (almost 70% of OZ population) and that has a significant impact on their foreign politics. A time bomb waiting to explode. That also partly explain why France never participated to Iraq war (you wrong there mate) as they have well in excess of 4m muslims, accounting 7% of their population.

Having said all of that, I still believe Europe should have done more to support America in Iraq and the war on terror in general. Regarding Afghanistan and aussie (derisory) troops engagements, it's a different proposition. The war had been started by America but conducted on the ground by Afghan Northern Alliance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_ (2001–present)

Now the current engagement is primarily NATO (which includes several European countries) effort, led by America. You guys never played any significant role in it and just stood by at USA/UK (your masters and creators) beck and call and until you were "ordered" to increase your troops number by a massive deployment of 450 heroes, which is btw only speculative number and yet to be approved by Australia Federal government. Wow, I can already see Taleban forces quaking in their boots.

Back to more mundane things, how was Songkran's vivacious celebrations (23 people died in UDT alone) in your neck of the wood? You haven't been driving a scooter, have you? Lots of slippery roads at that time.


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Posted on: 4:35 pm on April 21, 2007
DaffyDuck

Quote: from cheapcharlie on 4:32 am on April 22, 2007

Perhaps because I have no more tolerance to this medieval hogshit. Its not only in their own shithole countries now but brought to ours. We just shook off the grip of the catholic church after hundreds of years of repression and bullshit and now these motherf***ers climb from under a rock and want to take things back to the year dot.
I understand that, and agree - my question was why waste time and effort to give them a choice between giving up Allah or dying? It's pointless, just wipe them all out, and be done with it. Those who will lie about giving up Allah (as they are allowed to do, according to the Q'ran) will only lay dormant, and rise back up... Just avoid all that fracas, and do it right the first time.

..is all I'm saying!


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Posted on: 7:37 pm on April 21, 2007
cheapcharlie

I was thinking more along the lines they would not
give up allah even in the event of imenent death but it sounds good to me.


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Posted on: 8:43 pm on April 21, 2007
atl
Damn,

pretty serious stuff here...I just opened the thread to see if there was an updated exchange rate...

atl


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Posted on: 4:13 am on April 22, 2007
     

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