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Quote: from Vancouver Jay
If you sit down to play poker and you can't tell within five minutes who the pigeon is, chances are very good that it's you.
Ha ha ha ha!! Good one. Just like, "If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer!" ha ha ha!!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:38 pm on April 12, 2004
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Ballsburstin
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Suppose I should weigh in here, as my name has been mentioned a few times relative to bretth7377's quandry.
For me, it's coming up on 2.5 years with my TGF. There were issues -- possibly serious -- that came up recently with us. I don't understand all the details associated with them, but I am looking into things. Won't bother to elaborate here, other than to say that in the long run, they probably aren't deal breakers. Will let the bro's here know how it all turns out in the upcoming months.
I think Arcadius' posts here are spot on. All of the baggage and crap in the western mind has to be checked at the door. Doesn't mean check your common sense though. But everytime your TGF does something that makes zero sense to you, remember that she is, well, Thai! After 2.5 years with this lady, perhaps this is the biggest observation and, though simple on the face of it, the most profound relative to this working out. Her brain simply isn't wired in the western sense -- thank goodness! I was struck by this again when reading ColoradoGuy's details about the behaviour of his 2 ladies on Koh Samed. There is great beauty and joy in the ability of these ladies to appreciate simple things and to enjoy spontaneous play.
Funny, first thing I thought was that bretth7377 "got hisself married up" too, with all that ceremony and so forth. Arcadius's question about the Uni that she's attending is pregnant with meaning. The other posters have hit on why so.
My advice: bretth7377, slow things down a bit. And by all means, bonk some other BG's when incountry next time to balance your perspective. I completely agree with Arcadius that the whole "BG/no-BG" thing is not the issue here. 66% of marriages in the USA fail -- are these all BG's? When my TGF saw the movie "Lady in Red" recently, she cried because she said it was the first movie she saw that adequately expressed how she felt about the whole thing. These ladies are people, not machines.
And lastly, the old adage, you either have to move to LOS or she has to come to your country, is very important. I know a number of people now who have successful and longterm relationships with former Thai P4P ladies, and they all understood this. I think the potential problems I am looking into with my TGF right now are based on me being away too long. She hates being alone, and the pressures of school mixed with the periods of boredom wear her down. Her living situation in that respect is very un-Thai, as it is very anti-social. So I cut her a lot of slack. I plan on being incountry a lot more anyway, so I am not going to make any rash decisions from 12K kilometers away. I think things will hit an even keel once that happens.
My TGF is persuing her last year of high-school this year and by Spring 2005 will have her G.E.D. It's been a long haul. That will be the watershed moment in our relationship; at that point we will have marked 3.5 years together. My friend and P4P partner-in-crime, Khun Jeu Yai, recently reminded me: "Balls, this current little drama is all well and good, but simple question is, do you love her or not. If you do, then none of this sh_t matters." And as my TGF reiterated to me very recently in the midst of all this, "If I not want to be with you, why I go school, why I wait for you in apartment? I not do if I not serious!" Indeed. Simple fact is that when I am with her, she gives me 110% of her attention. Sometimes the face of things IS the message.
- Balls
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:15 pm on April 12, 2004
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bretth7377
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Balls,
So what are you saying, don't get the English lessons? Look, I like this girl a lot. But I am looking for things wrong with this situation.
First being it sounds like from the responses on this board that she's giving me a high price for these English lessons. Am I wrong on this? I mean, isn't there an average price for lessons or does it really vary from 2,000 baht - 20,000 baht for 40 hours of lessons?
I understand the situation that she is in but I don't want to look like a fool paying for 15,000 baht English lessons when in reality there going to cost 4,000.
Thanks for your help,
Brett
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:29 pm on April 12, 2004
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Nightwalker
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My girl paid 7,000 baht for hers, I understand it was a intensive 30 day course.
hope that helps
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:56 pm on April 12, 2004
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Ballsburstin
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bretth7377,
No, by all means get the English lessons. But look into the price, you can do better than 15K Baht. She may not be playing you on the price, but there are better deals around. I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on this, even is she is trying to hit you up for some extra cash. After all, you hardly know each other, and a little push back from you at this point sets a good precedent. Amidst the humor and candor of ColoradoGuy's FRs, you will notice that he does a lot of pushback with these ladies, in a respectful way, and they don't stalk him late night with sharp blades because of it, lol! I still get the "teelakja, mai mee budget [not have budget]" from my TGF all the time, followed by a little conspiratorial smile. She knows she's bullsh_tting me, and she knows I know -- it's a game we play that is not particularly serious, and it's just her Thai way of dealing with things. In the end, we tend to reach a happy medium.
Of course, private tutors aren't cheap. But 15K Baht exceeds my TGF's entire monthly budget. You might also consider emailing Stickman for a recommendation -- he is fairly religious in his quest for quality.
Assume you are already doing so, but you should be making a serious study of the Thai language too. There are several threads here that have some good suggestions for books, tapes, etc. My TGF will occasionally blurt out, "poot mai dai! [cannot speak English] Why you not speak pasa thai???" Speaking some Thai goes a long way to understanding the relationship and issues therewith. It's not a one way street.
Good luck!
- Balls
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:59 pm on April 12, 2004
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bkkz
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Quote: from bretth7377 on 8:26 pm on April 12, 2004
She wrote back and said she confirmed it was 15,000 and its for a 40 hour course. I thought I read on another post English lessons were a lot less expensive. Is it possible its 15,000 or is there no way and am I being taken? (I haven't given her any money yet and this is the first time she's asked)
Actually, that figure is not far out. For private classes, it normally works out to about 500B/hour. If I had to teach a private class, that's how much I would want to get, at least.
BTW, ask her to check out this link (ECC Thailand). She can learn it for FREE! It's in Thai though. Mondays-Fridays, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm. 40 hours.
http://www.eccthai.com/studyfree/t_studyfree.asp?pre=t_
There is a registration fee of 300 B.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:23 pm on April 12, 2004
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nikko
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some prices:
AUA- 30 hrs. 2,100 baht
British Council- about 5,000 baht, 7,000 for 40 hours
IDP - about 8,200 baht for 40 hours, also RMIT and ACL are in this price range
ECC- 30 hours about 3,200 baht
Siam Computer - 30 hours 2,900 baht.
IDP, RMIT and ACL are schools to prepare students for study at Australian universities and are about as expensive as they come. Unless it is a private tutor-- which it needn't be- the price you are being quoted is way too high.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:20 am on April 20, 2004
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